Do you honestly believe they will ever tell you the truth?

This thread is about getting down to the nitty gritty. Let's take for instance, why do you think they shut down part of the pyramids and the sphinx with armed guards? Or why do you think they took away every single CCTV tape that was recording the pentagon on 9/11? Do you honestly believe that they will tell you if they will or have found life in our neighboring system? Ladies and gentlemen they hide stuff from the public for a reason... Suppression of evolving consciousness. The suppression of you finding out who you truly are... And they do this to contain and continue their power over you. We all know the real truth of 9/11 and I say this because of all the secrecy and lies surrounding it. If you deny this to yourself it truly is sad. Nothing good can come out of secrecy. I guess what I am saying is how could anyone believe the crap they are told when clearly it is blatant lies? Are people really that diluted and delusional? Are we as a species really that weak as to take what we are told as truth and if anyone stands up and disagrees they are ostricized? I mean what is the matter with people? I myself do not even watch MSM, I won't even flip to the channel. Any comments?

Originally posted by Enemyc0mbatant
Are we as a species really that weak as to take what we are told as truth and if anyone stands up and disagrees they are ostricized? I mean what is the matter with people?

Sums up most world religions very well. The belief of a mob spreads through conformity and fear of breaking from the herd. Fear of being exiled from our tribe is a very ancient and powerful social control.
We aren't described as sheeple for nothing!

Democracy has failed.

The only way forward is a benevolent dictatorship without political sides.

Originally posted by HumansEh

Originally posted by Enemyc0mbatant
Are we as a species really that weak as to take what we are told as truth and if anyone stands up and disagrees they are ostricized? I mean what is the matter with people?

Sums up most world religions very well. The belief of a mob spreads through conformity and fear of breaking from the herd. Fear of being exiled from our tribe is a very ancient and powerful social control.
We aren't described as sheeple for nothing!

Aint that the TRUTH.

Star for you!

just what is truth ?
truth is subjective in a world of lies...
for all the claims of wanting truth people get angry / afraid when confronted with truth...

let them find it on they're own... or not .. as the case may be...

Me.. Im going fishing .. alot more constructive than sorting through the lies people claim to be truths...

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Dear Enemyc0mbatant

I have come to the conclusion that the lies are universal.

In that it doesn’t matter who THEY are the lies will remain the same. You can clear them all out, and you will end up with the next bright shine new one giving you the same old lies in order to continue their new control over YOU.

The 5% control the 95% follow or watch football and do not even recognize the lies.

Originally posted by Expat888
just what is truth ?
truth is subjective in a world of lies...
for all the claims of wanting truth people get angry / afraid when confronted with truth...

let them find it on they're own... or not .. as the case may be...

Me.. Im going fishing .. alot more constructive than sorting through the lies people claim to be truths...

Well I guess I can start with what isn't truth is that a plane hit the pentagon, or that war is to gain peace, or that Iraq had wmd's. Sure we are in a world of lies and deceit it's a shame. I do agree with letting people find it on their own. I was taught long ago that when the student is ready, the teacher will appear. This has been true in my life throughout my 16+ years of research. However it almost brings me to a point of sickness and depression to walk outside and see a bunch of people whom have not a clue what they are standing behind and supporting. It truly sickens me and disgusts me how many people will turn a blind eye to some of the most heinous crimes the world has ever seen because their government or spokesperson tells them that it was justified because of this BS or that BS.

I'm tired of not knowing the truth of our ancestry or the real discoveries that are not being shown to the public. It's our #ing right as humans to know our ancestral past. Regardless of culture. From all the images that we have seen with Hubble how many are we not seeing and why? Why? Because obviously there is something to hide. Why do not people demand the #ing truth? Why do we not take the truth if they are not willing to give? Why do people sit back with shades of BS pulled over their eyes?

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very true.. extremely frustrating..

often its easier for them to live with the lies than to accept the truths..
they cant handle the idea that their 'leaders' couldnt care less about them and that human life is meaningless in the eyes of the 'leaders'..
when they do realise it .. it leaves them shattered and unable to function.. A few learn to accept and move forward ..

As the saying goes - you can lead a horse to water...but you cant make him drink

same goes for humans and truth ...

Simply put, no.Not the full truth anyway. Any bit of truth we do get, is only given if it benefits TPTB. Regardless of topic.

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I must respectfully disagree. I don't think we have ever had a democracy in the U.S., or at least not in my lifetime, so it hasn't failed. To your point, however, whatever we do have certainly has failed the masses, if not TPTB. Which brings a new question: how would we ever know if they were telling the truth and how would we know if those pulling the strings failed at whatever they have been trying to do?

Also; no, we don't all really know the truth about 9/11 and probably never will. I wish you were right, though. As a parent, I am responsible for the lessons and information my children learn to as much extent as I can and should control it. So, at best TPTB consider themselves the "guardians" or "dispensers" of truth as they believe it best to deliver? Unfortunately, I cannot think of a single elected official I would choose to be competent in that position. At worst, they are the outright liars and deceitful travesties of humanity described here on this thread.

Either way, you certainly got the result correct.....we're screwed.

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They know not the truth so how could they disclose it? If however you meant when will they disclose information regarding humanities history and exactly how we have arrived in the position we find ourselves today, then yes I believe a moment will occur in which enlightenment is bestowed upon all. The ramifications of the disclosure is of concern as it may indeed lead to societal reform but one that may not necessarily be positive. Truly if TPTB had the "power" to control everything it is clear they would, consideration of this and a supposed denial of knowledge regarding oneself reveals it as a non-issue. Division of knowledge has limited the perception that all is interrelated thus as we progress it becomes more difficult to speak of one topic without involving another, this is an obstacle on the path toward understanding one it seems may require the unity of knowledge to be able to overcome.

The truth is, there isn't a truth. There never was a truth. Anyone who tells you they're telling you the truth is not telling you the truth. Do you want to know the truth? You couldn't handle the truth. The truth is that any truth is subject to change. Perception is not truth, but it's your truth and my truth and their truth. Truthfully the only way to know the truth is to detach yourself from truth itself. Don't live a lie, but don't try to live the truth either, because the truth will lead to a lie.

Originally posted by samstone11
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I must respectfully disagree. I don't think we have ever had a democracy in the U.S., or at least not in my lifetime, so it hasn't failed. To your point, however, whatever we do have certainly has failed the masses, if not TPTB. Which brings a new question: how would we ever know if they were telling the truth and how would we know if those pulling the strings failed at whatever they have been trying to do?

Democracy the perfect recipe for corruption. How are you going to get a guarantee that whoever is running as president won't work for his own interest but for the interest of his country.

Remember Obama? He told you all what you wanted to hear.

On the other side if we elect one ruler for a life time that is picked out of the people and for the people the problem is solved.

So basically the only true democracy is an autocracy? Isn't that like, exactly what democracy isn't?

Don't be fooled by your current democratic system. It doesn't APPEAR to be very democratic, so, chances are, it isn't democratic.

A true democracy can be achieved, but in order for that to happen corporate interest has to be removed from the political system. I'm not from the States but I'm sure the founding fathers have some sort of quote or there must be something in the Declaration of Independence which states that corporate interest ought not to be involved in politics (maybe not directly correlating words, because corporations were a very different beast in those days)...

A democratic system is one of constant change. In an autocracy such as the user above suggests, it would be a one time deal... but what then when this leader dies or is no longer 'for' the people, or perhaps 'for' the wrong people (as our current leaders are)...

Labor Omnia Vincit

Who would "they" be?
If you were told the "truth" would you recognize it?
Who's to say that you haven't already been told the "truth"?

This is like asking how many angels can dance on the head of a pin? The first thing you have to know is "what defines an angel".

Originally posted by JIMC5499
Who would "they" be?
If you were told the "truth" would you recognize it?
Who's to say that you haven't already been told the "truth"?

This is like asking how many angels can dance on the head of a pin? The first thing you have to know is "what defines an angel".

I can honestly say that no we have not been told the truth about many many things due to secrecy or justifying by using the phrase national security. Its BS. I could hide the truth of my name with the justification of security. Whose security do you really think they are protecting? They are protecting their own security.

they are not in the buisness of telling us the truth they are here to controll us thats it! we are there dumb naive servants. why would they show us that we out number them humans vs aliens we would win if we just woke up