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My prediction, many people will be fooled into thinking aliens are real and that the creator is not

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posted on Nov, 25 2011 @ 08:34 PM
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Im making this post to let people have a brief glimpse into my views on "aliens" and the creator. I choose not to label the creator with any words other than that as that is the only word I think is suitable, God may do for many but many fight and cringe away from that word. Also I'm pretty sure that we have had the techknowledgy now for a very long time to put people/things out into space. Let me break it down here a little bit.

1. We were created at some point, as was all of existance. For the first law of matter states"Matter cannot be created or destroyed but only change forms." So to immediatly follow that up, you must ask yourself "Where did all the matter that we/the universe is made of come from?" The only logical answer is that it was created at some point. If you want to go into well it always was, then I will say the exact same thing that the creator always was.

2. We have had the techknowledgy to go into space since the 50's and have had almost a half of a decade to reinforce/strengthen that techknowledy. So I really dont see it being a far stretch that our space program is actually much further along than it is percieved as being now. Given nuclear propulsion, there is an almost unlimited amount of power to move any object along through space.

3. We have had the ability to dissect genetics now for quite some time. Cloning was a big thing in the 90's and that was 20+ years ago. With the ability to modify genetic structure, it would be very easy to create a humaniod looking "alien"

4. Its very obvious those in power have no actual will power to the fact of actually being able to help us make our lives better. They waste trillions of dollars on various bs when in fact much of the worlds populations are facing hardships. So instead of working to better the world they are working on other things. Things that will give them absolute control.

So what I would like everyone to do is to follow along with me and put the pieces together. The vast majority of people are too involved with the silly shananagins they call life to actually take the time and step back and look at a bigger picture. I propose the bigger picture is this.

We are much further techknologically advanced than the guvment would want us to believe, and they reason they don't want us to believe it is that we will then not believe that the coming lies/deceptions are real. They want control and they will do whatever it takes to have that control. Including fooling as many people as they can into believing that aliens are real and that we need someone to stand up for us. I find it amusing they only time they stand up for us is when they want something in return. How come they are not standing up for us at this very second and alleviating some of the hardships we are currently going through?

Anyways, they will try to trick the vast majority of sheeple into thinking that aliens have come here. I have no clue if they will play them to be good or bad, but I dont think that will matter into thier endgame. That being they want everyone to no longer believe in the creator but to believe in some other false prophet type of thing where it will shatter the very foundations of all beliefs of men. This is thier trickery/endgame. Get everyone to believe in something that is false/not real. I leave you all up to your own beliefs on the situation, but I will finish with saying this.

Should something anywhere close to this go down in the near future, I will abandon the current/upcoming system totally, take my 1/2 million heirloom seeds into the woods, and live like man was actually meant to live. Fending for himself in the world that the creator made for us, not some highrise eating all this prepared food that has no real nutritional value. Also I will accept my brother/sister man and woman to come with and we can live as a community but only if hearts are pure. So I end this post saying go ahead and ridicule me, say that im crazy or whatever, but I certainly do feel alot better knowing my soul is safe and anything and everything done to myself on this earth has no affect on my spiritual body. Thanks for reading and bring on the trolls, just dont expect a response. And anyone who would like to talk more please private message me with any questions and comments.



posted on Nov, 25 2011 @ 08:38 PM
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The fake aliens will place no moral imperatives upon man. They will probably be hosting orgies and offering free mind blowing dope. You can see how this will go over big with most people.



posted on Nov, 25 2011 @ 08:42 PM
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1. We were created at some point, as was all of existance. For the first law of matter states"Matter cannot be created or destroyed but only change forms."

Where did they supernova come from? If there was no matter then how did we come to exist? Did aliens create a supernova, prolly not..... There has to be something that created x out of nothing right?



posted on Nov, 25 2011 @ 08:42 PM
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Aliens are both real and our creator. Soon you will find this out so get used to the idea.
edit on 25-11-2011 by IamAbeliever because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 25 2011 @ 08:44 PM
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Well untill either one of ya produces PROOF of your beliefs, thats all they are. BELIEFS. I dont think either are real as I have no proof of either.



posted on Nov, 25 2011 @ 08:46 PM
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Originally posted by IamAbeliever
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Aliens are both real and our creator. Soon you will find this out so get used to the idea.
edit on 25-11-2011 by IamAbeliever because: (no reason given)


willing sheep person here



posted on Nov, 25 2011 @ 08:46 PM
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Originally posted by wuforde
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1. We were created at some point, as was all of existance. For the first law of matter states"Matter cannot be created or destroyed but only change forms."

Where did they supernova come from? If there was no matter then how did we come to exist? Did aliens create a supernova, prolly not..... There has to be something that created x out of nothing right?



that was the logical point I was trying to make, were you agreeing or trying to argue with something you agree with? Not sure.



posted on Nov, 25 2011 @ 08:47 PM
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S&F.

Whenever the SHTF or the next big thing happens, I'll just go against the mainstream. Whatever the majority thinks, I"ll go the opposite. Not because I want to be trendy or cool though.

Whichever way the sheep run, I don't want to be there when the wolf pounces.
edit on 25-11-2011 by signwearer because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 25 2011 @ 08:47 PM
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Originally posted by jcord
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The fake aliens will place no moral imperatives upon man. They will probably be hosting orgies and offering free mind blowing dope. You can see how this will go over big with most people.



wouldnt suprise me at all, the more atrocities they have the better for thier agenda.



posted on Nov, 25 2011 @ 08:49 PM
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Im not saying that the sheeple are doing the wrong thing, im just saying many are doing what they want them to do... Also Ive been pretty much anti mainstream since I was a child, and let me tell you, when a "gifted" child gets kicked out of highschool thats just proof the system doesnt like the squeeky bearing. I got the grease.



posted on Nov, 25 2011 @ 08:50 PM
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Even if "aliens" come forth and say they created us. That doesn't mean there is no God/Creator.

Who created the aliens? Who created reality?



posted on Nov, 25 2011 @ 08:51 PM
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Originally posted by signwearer
Even if "aliens" come forth and say they created us. That doesn't mean there is no God/Creator.

Who created the aliens? Who created reality?


Agreed that was the overall point I was trying to make, although I still wont believe that they created us, why wait until now when they(guvment) have almost all the means of control that they need to control us, why not come around before this BS got this far.



posted on Nov, 25 2011 @ 08:53 PM
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"All matter must have been created at some point, so "God" must have created it."
[paraphrasing]

How was God created? If a higher power does exist, he/she/it came from somewhere and was created by some even higher power. I guess what I'm saying is, who cares? Live your life morally and accept that you will likely never know all of the universe's answers, or even the questions to some of those answers. You can bet that there is some intelligent design to the universe, just as there are plenty of serendipitous accidents as well. You can also bank on Aliens being real. We're not as special as we like to fool ourselves into thinking we are, and the universe is too vast for our galaxy to be unique. We're also learning about interdimensional realities and the possibilities of Beings living there and beyond. Don't worry yourselves with what may or may not exist, or what has or has not influenced mankind. We need to learn to handle the here and now (which we currently suck at), before we begin reaching out beyond our own comprehension.


~FugitiveSoul




edit on 25-11-2011 by FugitiveSoul because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 25 2011 @ 08:55 PM
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I have a similar construction on reality.

I beleve that it DOES NOT MATTER

IF

the critters are

1. genuine ET's from distant planets;

2. fallen angels

3. bioengineered critters [which I don't think they are from our side--perhaps the fallen angels have done such--sounds like they have]

WHATEVER they are--they are clearly IN CAHOOTS with the globalists toward setting up a satanic world government just as The Bible predicts for this era in which Israel became a nation again in a day in 1948.

I also do not know whether some critters will be cast as 'bad-cop' ET's vs others cast as 'good-cop' ET's fighting each other over earth . . . requiring the earth to join together to survive etc. and submit to the 'good-cop' ET's fighting 'for us' . . . or whether they will all be cast as saviors saving us from ourselves . . . polluting the earth to destruction etc.

It does not matter, to me. They are all on satan's side and that's all I need to know about their motives, methods, strategies etc.

Thankfully,

THE KING IS COMING . . . and will obliterate them all when He comes this time as conquering King of Kings and Lord of Lords.






I think the BOOK OF ENOCH has some very fitting content about such things, BTW.

AT LEAST folks need to be aware and discerning . . . that the critters are not likely to be what they are cast as by the main stream media and the globalists--regardless of their sound and light shows . . . and technological 'miracles.'

Scientist Jacque Vallee investigated them for years and concluded that they are evil critters coming from a spiritual 'dimension.'



posted on Nov, 25 2011 @ 09:03 PM
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hey, i'm new on here. but i've been checking out ATS a while. Have you heard of Project Blue Beam? If you haven't, go check it out. It's about a fake alien invasion. some of it can seem a bit far fetched. it's mentioned that they have ways of getting into every person's head with visions of their own god, etc... which, i think is the far fetched side. but there is also talk of pictures in the sky (holograms) that seem more credible.

whether they're made out to be good or bad, the idea of aliens revealing themselves on earth always makes me think of a twilightzone episode called "to serve man" ...the aliens reveal that they are here to serve man and they stop all wars, etc. at the end of the episode a final part of their plan is revealed and it turns out that they really are there to serve man....for dinner!!! hehe



posted on Nov, 25 2011 @ 09:08 PM
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...TROLL... Just playing wiffle ball lightsaber starwars with U


I have say... SIRIUS---(b)... Ur on to something in a

... 'quantum BIG bang cosmic ocean'... Of eternity


... BUTT JOINT(this is my last time using this crazy weird no cent$ phrase
)
... If no one is saying what U just said on the 'Piers Morgan-Toe' show
... Than is it "real" like WW3???
... Or still just about
... 'Baseline Money'... is still the "Fear Reality"


Mr X-ULTRA/IMAGINATION/OMEGA-3/BARRAMUNDI... WE-ALL have already been there
... done that... now what'$ the 'catch' of the millennium


edit on 25-11-2011 by CosmicWaterGate because: To many BIG fish in the Bio-Earth-Tank?... still plenty of room?... Or maybe just greedy advanced technology bait sellers


edit on 25-11-2011 by CosmicWaterGate because: Had to add ULTRA-BRAIN-POWER... What???... "I" got 4hrs... to change my mind or pole/shift correct myself




posted on Nov, 25 2011 @ 09:18 PM
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oh well, till your third statement it all sounded to cool, but i disagree on a few things you wrote

i'm afraid we are not that much advanced in technology as you might think of.
We made great progress in theory, and are able to explain like 99% whats physically going on in this world, except the great unified theory combining gravitation and quantumn physics.
in theory !!

if it comes to practical use we are like the flintstones. Spacecraft being flown by the russians are still from the early ages of exploration and we are right about to roll a new generation of spacecraft out of its shack, which is not that much different from what we had when we went to the moon.

our cars are still burning fossile fuel, since we are too stupid to come up with a proper solution to propel them with something different in a somewhat useful manner.

messing around with genetics brought us ultra resistant plants which can withstand almost every parasit, just to learn that this stuff actually triggers the human immune system to its boundaries (*snip) just like that.

all we do is ... making profit
its ALL about the money. Every action someone does is for the sole purpose of making oneself richer than before. And this 'we are the sheeple'-argument runs straight into the bin, because of this profit thingy noone actually WANTS to turn us into, because it is damn expensive, and the 'sheeple' will start kicking *ss once they figure.

sheeple eh ?

i'm afraid that is someone's view who has already giving up living life.
As a result life lives YOU, and you hop into the cozy fantasy-world of 'Aliens', 'Free Energy', 'Astrology' and 'almost-any-crap-one-can-think-of'.

if there really is a creator he should knock peoples doors every once in a while and explain the people that 99%+1% makes 100% and that some famous guy in history once stated 'UNITED WE STAND'

One just need to switch the computer off and get some things solved in real life, cause you can actually find more interesting things in real life than with google.

As you mentioned you are thinking about living in the woods ?

why so ?

society is cool .. be part of it ...



posted on Nov, 25 2011 @ 09:19 PM
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Originally posted by IamAbeliever
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Aliens are both real and our creator. Soon you will find this out so get used to the idea.
edit on 25-11-2011 by IamAbeliever because: (no reason given)


Any particular reason why you believe we'll soon find out?

Prophecies? Personal experience? Information from some other source?

I would love for it to happen but I'm far from completely sure, I just get the feeling something big is on the horizon but that could be something else or just a feeling lacking validity.

I believe they're here though, without a doubt.



posted on Nov, 25 2011 @ 09:20 PM
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If there are aliens, then there are aliens. What bearing does this have upon the fabric of our reality? None whatsoever. You will always have folk who get spooked by shadows and others who will follow the herd. As for a creator, and his interest or disinterest in us, insects upon a pretty blue speck in a universe that is far from alone in any way, again, there are those who are convinced that the earth is still the center of all creation, and nothing will convince them otherwise. Assume nothing, children. Do not assume that the god you've been led to believe is attentive to you or your petty concerns, and do not assume that every stray twinkle in the sky is a UFO full of hostile aliens aching to probe your every secret nook and cranny. The truth is this: at the end of the day, did you live your life to its fullest, spreading a smile or two when you could, helping when possible, and then, giving a little to yourself as well? You see, at any moment some star close by could go supernova, then in a random mischance, set off a beam of energy in our direction. This will fry our little orb to a crisp, and us with it. End of God debates, end of elections, end of vegans vs carnivores, you get the picture. Why worry? Life could end at any moment, for any reason we could ever or never imagine. Therefore, Life is sacred. Live IT.



posted on Nov, 25 2011 @ 09:23 PM
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agree with you OP. An alien contact story rings of the Coming great deception talked about in Revelation.

Heres another thought, everybody is afraid of the mark of the beast coming and being a chip that would control your bank account.

Now what would happen if these "creators" were to come back and offer humanity a life changing treatment that would let you live to 500 yrs or more?

People would line up around the block, not knowing what they were really signing up for. And if you didnt take, you would be labelled as a backwards person clinging to old superstitions. And you know, theres no room for people like that in the "new world".




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