Aliens do NOT exist, here is PROOF

HEY! In case any of you thought my CANADIAN FLYING SAUCER post was just a spoof....it was not!

The company that made them was called AVRO....they were first contracted to build a SUPERSONIC version of a Flying Saucer....but the engine power requirements were too vast and the U.S.A.F. and it's corporate development companies....were not about to hand over these type of engines to a possible competetor.

So....a much smaller scale saucer named...THE AVRO AIRCAR....was built....and it worked....except it had the problem of debris being sucked into the engines and destroying the blades.

As far as the CANADA IS THE 51st STATE comment. That is more true than most Canadians would like to think or believe. Canada and the U.S. share the longest unguarded boarder in the world. With the possible exception of a few SEPERATISTS in QUEBEC....the two countries share everything from Hockey and Baseball and Basketball teams in the same leagues....to an interconnective MILITARY SYSTEM....that anyone that had any knowledge of these things....would have a hard time determining where one countries defense system began or ended.

The two countries are really....one VERY LARGE REGION....that have a treaty that no other countries in the world share. A direct attack on CANADA is considered the same as a direct attack on the UNITED STATES. The U.S. has defence treaties with other countries as far as responce to attack....but none have the statement....is the SAME AS AN ATTACK ON THE UNITED STATES.

I have many Canadian friends of a rivalry nature since I am a BRUINS fan....and I have been around the world....and with the exception of the French Speaking....it is almost impossible to tell the difference from a CANADIAN and a citizen of the UNITED STATES.....except the use....REPEATEDLY OF THE WORD...EEEHHH? Split Infinity

Originally posted by Zatox
Well they don't exist and my evidence is no evidence of them existing, before you get all defensive like most Alien fanatics do, just hear me out..

No, sorry. Not when your post is riddled with straw man-esque arguments and offensive rhetoric. It's like you're TRYING to undermine everything this board stands for. Your post is not skepticism - it's a flagrant offense and you clearly have no intention of listening to what people have to say on the subject, you are just here to criticize.

A) You are no more convincing or original than those trying to prove Aliens are real.

B) Watch this and then please try to tell me that there is not alien life. >> www.youtube.com...

C) Sure, I suppose the fact that aliens have visited us is debatable (though I believe they definitely have) but the fact that there are 'aliens' somewhere in this universe is pretty much undeniable by anyone who understands how large our universe is.

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Because any evidence is swept up so fast, and what ever does is believed to be fake because of all the die hard skeptics

Originally posted by Namaste1001
Absence Of Evidence Is Not Evidence Of Absence

Yea, What he said!
Sounds like the OP is trying to pick a fight. OP Me

Originally posted by Namaste1001
Absence Of Evidence Is Not Evidence Of Absence

Presence of historical and other indicative evidence (eg. AA's, our DNA mystery (eg. Fox G2 and the fact that 95% of our DNA appears junk (but this is not likely), our hidden abilities that pop up out from our DNA from time to time) etc)

is Not Evidence of Absence either, but indicatively quite the contrary!!!

....think I got that right!!

This thread made me burst into laughter before I reached the end of the first page

The thread title alone promises some good old fashion let down.

Originally posted by Rekrul
you want proof? go outside, any night of the week, and look up. you'll see something if you're patient. come on man, at least try. i just don't understand how some peoples minds think. if you want to definitively say aliens don't exist you might as well believe in the bible, or santa clause, because thats how ridiculous you sound.

I wish i could believe but facts lead to nothing..

This is called trolling. You claim to have PROOF of something (your emphasis) and don't even present evidence.

You wasted your time typing that post. It added nothing to the conversation.

You are what we call "non open minded" meaning if you ACTUALLY saw an what I believe your referring to as an extraterrestrial. You probably would have either an instant heart attack or would just shut your self down mentally. I personally with help from others have seen close enough to discern that it was no other form of craft or life I had seen before in such a "crude" shape. For starters if you really want to see something.. STOP, open your mind, then proceed to the videos section and watch every James Gilliland video you can get your hands on. Then if your still not convinced then please take a trip out to "The Ranch" at Mt. Adams in Washington and enjoy. BUT remember the first step required is an open mind! I as well as HUNDREDS of other ATS members BELIEVE. So stop looking at pictures and get out an do some field work. ;-) That was my problem until I met groups online and got a RARE chance (for me) to meet James Gilliland and have him show us how to take pictures of orbs. I have 10MP pictures of unexplainable orbs, you can zoom in for decades. And once I did I started to notice other things besides the orbs in the photos. So if your like the matrix... then unplug your self from the fake reality.

On a side note:
I would really be pizzedoff if it was the govmnt playing tricks on me. Because for fact they advance technologically 44:1 that leaves us in the dust using archaic equipment. While literally they COULD be flying superconducting silent silicon flying rectangular cubes.... I highly doubt it..

~MASTERODUNIVERSE

8 pages? This is why you don't feed the trolls. now its on the front page

Originally posted by Zatox
Well they don't exist and my evidence is no evidence of them existing, before you get all defensive like most Alien fanatics do, just hear me out..

For argument sake, lets say they DID exist, why is it that we always see a stupid looking photo with a dot on it and not the actual thing? We have great technology here on earth, they can't seem to capture one proper photo or video (100% of them are fake anyway)

Why is it that the Alien fanatics believe they do exist and try to believe so deeply? I am really curious about that question, so please do explain. For a second do you not think that this may be all some sort of "fun" the government created for you people so they draw attention away on what they are really trying to do?

I can go on and on and ooonnn! but it's just the same story over and over again with the fanatics.

For a time i use to believe too, honestly i did, and then this awesome feeling called common sense kicked my head so i understood what i had to.

Tell me, do you have proof of E.T's existing? show me one.

Sorry people do not exist to prove anything to you. In fact whether you believe anything or not is entirely irrelevant. To say with utmost certainty that they DO NOT exist is the height of ignorance. You can neither prove they do not exist as much as prove they do, so it's an open door.

In short, you're ridiculous for openly making such an obtuse claim. Want proof? Find it yourself. No one will spoon feed you anything.

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Dude! your avatar rocks!! I know where that head came from and I almost did something with it myself! You made my day seeing it again!!

Anyway. Im leaving this thread as it clearly is just nonsense. A troll For 'lack-of-intel'

Originally posted by eleven44
A) You are no more convincing or original than those trying to prove Aliens are real.

B) Watch this and then please try to tell me that there is not alien life. >> www.youtube.com...

C) Sure, I suppose the fact that aliens have visited us is debatable (though I believe they definitely have) but the fact that there are 'aliens' somewhere in this universe is pretty much undeniable by anyone who understands how large our universe is.

That puts things into perspective!!! And if that is true then most we suspect about Aliens including AA's most likely true because one only as to make the logical deduction that if in a 10,000, 100,000 or 1 million years from now we are going to be be so advanced in knowledge and technology then there are Aliens who already are!!!!!

Originally posted by SplitInfinity
The two countries are really....one VERY LARGE REGION....that have a treaty that no other countries in the world share. A direct attack on CANADA is considered the same as a direct attack on the UNITED STATES. The U.S. has defence treaties with other countries as far as responce to attack....but none have the statement....is the SAME AS AN ATTACK ON THE UNITED STATES.

Split.. You know I'm a stickler for details.. so slight correction here. The NATO charter makes every attack on a single member country an attack on all member countries. Hence, if say Italy was attacked then it's considered an attack on the US, Great Britain, Canada, Germany, France.... well... all NATO members. Hence the big discussion on 9/11 whether or not the terrorist attacks fall under the NATO charter and would require all NATO countries to respond militarily.

But more importantly... Bruins fan.. seriously..?... GO PENGUINS!.. haha... :-)

Well, the tall tale of spoken life didn't exactly begin with word from governments- they are ancient tales as well.

Any credible photo or video would not be released or subdued.

We like to believe there is life in an infinite universe with infinite possibilities.
Not to mention we could not comprehend how much advanced another intelligent race could be, soo lets save time from bickering on present day physics jargon

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Are you asking people to prove a negative OP?

Thats not how this really works.

Besides are we not proof ourselves of Alien life?

Tell me.
How can you prove something that does not exist?
Therefore you would be proving the nothing-ness

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Scroll up. Keep going. Reach the top of the web page yet? Good, now read what it says...

ATS. Abovetopsecret.com... DENY IGNORANCE.

"Tell me, do you have proof of E.T's existing? show me one."

Now be a good little person and read these:
www.nsa.gov...
www.nsa.gov...
www.nsa.gov...

Let's see your response, if intelligible. Otherwise save me from further ignorance.

Giant squid do not exist. I've never seen one, never been anywhere they would likely inhabit, and since my idea is valid, I must be right.

Like your take on things. Minds are like parachutes, they only work when they're open.