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Why are we voting for silly candidates when we could be voting for laws?

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posted on Nov, 24 2011 @ 08:57 AM
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Laws are what rule us; not politicians.

Politicians come and go, but laws have been on the books for hundreds of years.

Banks don't steal your money and wreck your mortgage; laws do.

Police and courts do not put you in jail for protecting your assets or having fun; laws do.

And none of these laws, not one, was written by the people they govern. WTF! Are we crazy and stupid; or just stupid and crazy?

We can write the laws if we establish a reliable voting process and then strike until our laws are passed. We also need to remove quite a few of their laws to regain our rightful freedom under the constitution. Notice how the Patriot Act is law that is not called a law. Notice how the word Patriot is exactly the opposite of who this set of laws is really for. Why not call it the "1% laws", just for descriptiveness; instead of the "Patriot Act" for deceptiveness?

Maybe Americans don't have the vision and confidence for this, but I am betting they do, simply because they have been kicked around and ripped off like a bunch of stoned, peasants lately.

For the same amount of effort, we can have our own eternal laws instead of diseases like Gingrichitis.

Who's with me?
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posted on Nov, 24 2011 @ 09:08 AM
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I like it. No doubt there are security issues and such as with any voting process but that isn't a reason not to attempt it. It is apparent that liberation is required for the majority of the populace of the planet and so really needs to be enacted as such, a truly momentous task.



posted on Nov, 24 2011 @ 09:09 AM
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Voting for Capital Hill candidates is the closest people can get voting for federal law, which trumps a lot of what the people want when they vote for it on a state or city level.
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posted on Nov, 24 2011 @ 09:14 AM
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Voting is a crime lean how we have been deceived read treason by design thread here on ATS.



posted on Nov, 24 2011 @ 09:30 AM
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Change the direction of your premise and you can find the truth of the matter.



"Laws are what rule us; not politicians."


We rule ourselves by seeing the other person within ourselves. Apart from having the foundation necessary to self-rule, there are no laws that can stem the tide of anarchy that follows. More rules and laws only reveal the problem of the heart.



Politicians come and go, but laws have been on the books for hundreds of years.


Laws are meant to dissuade people from deprivation of the rights, freedoms and liberties of those who value the same. Laws need to be easily understood and clearly written. Politicians who are corrupt can only write laws that trap people as a form blackmail or to create a loophole to allow their corruption to flourish. Again, no law can replace a proper foundation for the heart. See the book, "Three Felonies a Day."



Banks don't steal your money and wreck your mortgage; laws do.


Those laws are written in such a way as to provide advantage for the lawbreaker. Justice requires laws to be followed by those enforcing the laws. The same corruption of the heart allows justice to be ignored in place of profit. Taking is the sign of objectivism. Giving is the sign of altruism.



Police and courts do not put you [in] jail for protecting your assets or having fun; laws do.


Having fun is another symptom of the same problem. It depends on direction of suffering. If we steal reward, suffering follows the debt we create. Smoke and you get cancer. This is taking a reward that causes debt. On the flip side of this, giving work (suffering first) creates true reward. If fun follows suffering of work for others, then this is a true reward. Work at a job and feed your family. Suffer a car payment and take them on vacation. This is giving work for the fun. Taking reward--apart from suffering--is where our society is today. As a nation, we are in debt 15 trillion because of the injustice and greed of those who would rather take their reward first. Blame the politicians, lawmakers and their backers--corporations and media.



And none of these laws, not one, was written by the people they govern. WTF! Are we crazy and stupid; or just stupid and crazy?


We are morally bankrupt because we embrace objectivism over altruism. We see our soul as a possession instead of a gift from God.

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posted on Nov, 24 2011 @ 09:49 AM
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Laws are what are being made and ignored by the law makers. They don't want us involved in the legislative process. They continue to attempt to regulate any options us commoners have in running for office out of existence. DC yields 1 of the most powerful organized crime rings since the dawn of time, all in the name of the US Constitution which they thumb their noses at daily.



posted on Nov, 24 2011 @ 09:57 AM
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Let me add that complexity in the law is yet another, separate form of control.

The people should reject, categorically, anything complex.

The 1% want to require a law degree to even inquire about their holy law, and when you get that, they quickly devise more blockages. Now there are layers and layers of preconditions just to approach their bull# law.

# that. We need a voting process to overturn the complicated tax codes, acts, whatever, down to something the people write and fully understand. But first the voting apparatus must be in place for the 99.

Think of the law as a software program, carefully designed to take all your money; for your own safety of course, and then make you feel like you deserved it.



posted on Nov, 24 2011 @ 09:58 AM
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We have been brainwashed and dumbed down to believe that this is what equals freedom.
I wish people would realize that both sides are just puppies for the elite.



posted on Nov, 24 2011 @ 12:21 PM
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Originally posted by Ethericplane
Laws are what rule us; not politicians.

Politicians come and go, but laws have been on the books for hundreds of years.


Logically you are very correct. But I implore you to check your premise. There is no contradiction in voting for politicians, who then vote for legislation; for that practice is enumerated and founded in the construct of the Constitution -- Federally speaking that is.

Alas though, as I see in a later post of yours you have interjected the much vaunted 1/99 argument. What I see here, as my personal observation is another call for Direct Democracy.


And none of these laws, not one, was written by the people they govern. WTF! Are we crazy and stupid; or just stupid and crazy?


Then who are they written by? Granted there are many laws that are designed to benefit one section of society over another and those laws can and should be repealed. "...none of these laws, not one, was written by the people they govern." is an absurd statement that highlights that you are viewing the world through the crafted glasses of class envy. Are representatives, whom the People have voted for and sent to represent them, not the people who are creating the legislation?


We can write the laws if we establish a reliable voting process and then strike until our laws are passed.

We already have the capacity and inherent Right to do such. Write legislation and gain support at the local level and present it to your representative. If your representative at that point refuses, let them know that they are beholden to the Peoples' vote come next election. But that requires work and requires dedication that many American's are unwilling and uneducated to even begin to endeavor.



posted on Nov, 24 2011 @ 06:52 PM
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You want to vote on laws?

Well that means that the majority of voters could vote away your right to a fair trial.

They could vote your right to illegal searches and seizures away.

They could vote your right to keep and bear arms away.

Your right to free speech.

Direct Democracy is highly dangerous because the best organized groups are the ones who control the outcomes. We need LESS democracy and more Constitutionalism.



posted on Nov, 24 2011 @ 09:40 PM
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Sadly the lack of knowledge and understanding of what entails a "democracy" at the highest levels is beyond those that call for it. They act as if it is not prevalent nor accessible; when it is it. Direct Democracy is alive and well at at the lowest levels....but they want more. They want to interject their ideals as the majority to put into submission that of the minority.

That is dictatorship where I come from...not sure about anyone else.



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