Sickening Evidence - Occupy > Mass Evacuations > UN takeover of America

woodwardjnr,

The main two points for me are that people would prefer to be in their own houses with their children (not separated), and that this is all being engineered, with OWS currently playing a key role. We can speculate on what would happen post evacuation, but for now we can focus on stopping OWS and making it harder for the Bankers/Elite to get their way.

A key part of the plan is to take a generation of children away from their parents, that way you can start from scratch on education, removing religion, conspiracies and anything else that the Elite don't like.

As thejlxc correctly says, our communications will be down. The Elite will write history the way the want to, it won't be the truth, just another Hollywood-style movie. People outside of the USA will have no way of knowing what's really going on, just strange pandemic or bio-terror stories which are completely controlled

Originally posted by woodwardjnr
So what would be so bad about a FEMA camp if TSHTF. If your a vulnerable individual with no way of surviving it alone? If a FEMA camp can provide food and shelter to those who need it, then thats probably better than just letting people die or scrap it out on the streets.

I very much doubt people will be forced into these destinations to be killed , imagine the public outcry around the world. I know America is not the most popular nation around the world. But I think people might start to notice some mass genocide happening in the land of the free.

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Originally posted by woodwardjnr
So what would be so bad about a FEMA camp if TSHTF. If your a vulnerable individual with no way of surviving it alone? If a FEMA camp can provide food and shelter to those who need it, then thats probably better than just letting people die or scrap it out on the streets.

I very much doubt people will be forced into these destinations to be killed , imagine the public outcry around the world. I know America is not the most popular nation around the world. But I think people might start to notice some mass genocide happening in the land of the free.

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Normally I don't critisize or really laugh at someone's opinion.

BUT

I apologise in advance.


Those camps could easily become workcamps for unemployed and also serve as overflow detention camps.

If TSHTF, what guarantees would the "government" provide?
Katrina was a failure .... slow response, inadequate accomodations, etc.
AND, that was small scale compared to a nation wide "emergency".

It's actually happened here before, as well as in other countries right in the 20th century!
(Germany, Poland ... )

The Civilian Conservation Corps (CCC) was a public work relief program that operated from 1933 to 1942 in the United States for unemployed, unmarried men from relief families, ages 18–25. A part of the New Deal of President Franklin D. Roosevelt, it provided unskilled manual labor jobs related to the conservation and development of natural resources in rural lands owned by federal, state and local governments. The CCC was designed to provide employment for young men in relief families who had difficulty finding jobs during the Great Depression while at the same time implementing a general natural resource conservation program in every state and territory. Maximum enrollment at any one time was 300,000; in nine years 2.5 million young men participated.

Civilian Conservation Corps

^^ Read how the money was distributed ^^

This was censored in public schools.
The U.S. population at the time was apprx 125 million.

I actually know people who "participated".

It was not horrible, BUT....

Diseases were rampant, just like in the European camps (typhus).

Many ended up as "pre-trained" military personnel in WW2.


Please consider all these facts and possibilities.

Your opinion is fine, and so is mine.

Originally posted by usernamehere
A tip of the hat to Dodd and to the OP for sharing. Corruption reigns supreme as the people work against one another. Subscription to ideologies and their manipulation means we each are capable of being both incarcerator and incarcerated.

Not definitive evidence but it indicates what one knows already

www.prisonexp.org...

How foolish we have been to surrender literally ourselves for the sake of fallacy.

What happens happens.

Good post and thanks for the link! (I'll have a read now)

Update: Highly relevant, it puts things into perspective

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Nice post and link xuenchen

The FEMA camp/money complex is real.

However, we need to look at some reality.

Here is a thread from a year ago (Nov 10, 2010).

Take a close look....it exposes some of the commercial agendas, and the old "bait & switch" routine.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Originally posted by xuenchen
The FEMA camp/money complex is real.

However, we need to look at some reality.

Here is a thread from a year ago (Nov 10, 2010).

Take a close look....it exposes some of the commercial agendas, and the old "bait & switch" routine.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Thanks for this xuenchen

Whatever they are about to do to us, they do not want us repopulating again, like we did after WWII when we had a Baby Boom. This is why on this occasion they've taken the precaution of giving out the fertility reducing injections that we know as Swine Flu and HPV vaccines.

We know from their quotes and The Georgia Guidestones that they want the global population maintained below 500 million



They've said the UK population needs to be maintained below 30 million www.currentconcerns.ch... we're talking about a huge drop in world population, but the question is, how quickly do they want to do this? Are they willing to wait for the effects of the vaccines to reduce our population, or will they ruthlessly take us into WWIII, which is what I personally expect to see, and am already seeing the early signs of in the news each day. e.g today Going ballistic: Russia strikes back with missile warning

The colorful map in the OP did send a tingle down my spine. Why are the 'red' areas high priority? It seems to me they follow rivers and such.

As far as the situation at large, I do feel there is much out of place in regards to current activities of our govt. as well as the money woes.. so i ask this?

What would be the point to round the majority up into concentrated areas? yes yes easy control but for what?! control for what purpose? As other posts state, that act would involve much effort and be costly....tho not costly if tppl making the $ are the ones paying as they can make more $... but still?

I for one would much rather fend for my own in a 'chaotic' state but that is me.

Originally posted by ThatGuy45
What would be the point to round the majority up into concentrated areas? yes yes easy control but for what?! control for what purpose? As other posts state, that act would involve much effort and be costly....tho not costly if tppl making the $ are the ones paying as they can make more $... but still?

I for one would much rather fend for my own in a 'chaotic' state but that is me.

Good questions ThatGuy45!

The Elite/Bankers already have control of the monetary system, they don't need more money, they can print money if ever they need it. They have most the gold. What they are interested in is power and assets. The use their bottomless pit of money to grab more power every year. Hence cost is never a problem for them.

When there are things that cannot be bought, they create wars e.g. taking oil off the people of Libya. All the citizens of Libya would receive a annual share of the Libyan oil profits under Gaddafi. Now they won't. Sometimes they create wars to grab assets, while at other times they create war to gain more control of the people who they already have some control over. For example, a war on the US mainland would enable them to change laws and relocate people, whilst also reducing the population, as it's more difficult to control a large number

David Rockefeller's trusted ally Zbigniew Brzezinski said" To put it *pungently*: in earlier times, it was easier to control one million people than to physically kill one million people; today, it is infinitely easier to kill one million people than to control one million people

Eventually the Banker's want to use their United Nations to control every nation on the planet. The United Nations so-called "Peacekeepers" will have all of the weapons and armies. Guns will be taken away from individuals. There will be no way to fight back, they'll have complete control, including over the media, they can tell us whatever they want, like they did with Libya (film studios etc). If they want to reduce fertility rates, they just call a Pandemic and give us fertility reducing "vaccines". By then we won't have a choice about whether we receive a vaccine, you can see this by looking through the United Nations website, all their plans for the world, they don't fit in with this world around us now. They have been designed for after something big has happened, WWIII, it will be relatively easy for them to make us accept their laws if they say they are here to save us. They will say that the war proves that the system needs to be changes, even though it was them who created the war.

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the point is not the fema camps, the point is our resources are beginning the slope downward, our government cant handle the economic situation it has currently got us in, we are lied to to justify money coming out of my paycheck to kill people in other countries, the point is corporations consistently will raise prices, drown out competition, and influence the government underhandedly, destroy private business/industry, the point is that the government thought it was ok to tamper with the genetics of our food supplies, and of future crops for the benefit of a quicker and bigger buck. this type of turmoil happens to EVERY country in the world on average every 30-100 years, whether it be famine, pandemic, war, civil war, or financial collapse. this is nothing new, the only thing that is new is the current generation.

How can the UN takeover America when America owns the UN?

reply to post by ThatGuy45

What would be the point to round the majority up into concentrated areas? yes yes easy control but for what?! control for what purpose? As other posts state, that act would involve much effort and be costly....tho not costly if tppl making the $ are the ones paying as they can make more $... but still?

I for one would much rather fend for my own in a 'chaotic' state but that is me.

A 'chaotic' state may be the result if and when the govt(s) stop paying the welfare.

As long as tax revenues and bond issue borrowing is easy, no problem.

But what if that becomes unmanagable?
(it's close to that already)

Work camps will be the norm,
all run by international corporations, who already control most world governments.

The U.N. will be the "overseer" and U.N. military units will be the police forces.

Those who can fend for themselves will remain independent to a point.

TPTB may allow the independents to exist ...... at least at first.

Originally posted by NadaCambia
How can the UN takeover America when America owns the UN?

America does not own the U.N.

The major international corporations own the U.N. and the world central banks,
and everything connected.

Wow, he brought this up so long ago and today we have seen it unfold. This man Dodd seems to be telling the truth in my opinion. He had nothing to gain by lying, except to know the truth was set free.

More interesting to me is what he said is corroborated by some facts, like this for instance:

Dodd's most controversial claim concerns the Ford Foundation president Rowan Gaither, who Dodd alleges told him off the record that ""all of us [Foundation leaders] that have a hand in the making of policies here have had experience, either with the OSS during the war, or the European Economic Administration after the war - we've had experience dealing with directives, and these directives emanated from the White House [...] we still operate under these directives. Would you like to know what the substance of these directives is? [...] Mr. Dodd, we operate under directives, the substance of which is that we shall use our grant making power so to alter life in the United States that it can be comfortably merged with the Soviet Union."

Although this is an off record statement, and is a contemporary, not primary, source, the essence of this claim can be corroborated by looking at other evidence. In 1972, a White House conference led by Roy Ash pushed for the beginning of a World Economic Community around 1990 [5], and in 1985 the United States and the Soviet Union agreed on a merger of education systems, and continued further policy mergers until 1990. The title of the document corroborating this claim, signed by George Shultz, is The General Agreement Between the Government of the United States of America and the Government of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics on Contacts, Exchanges, and Cooperation in Scientific, Technical, Cultural, and other fields.[6] Charlotte Iserbyt was fired from her position as Senior Policy Advisor in the Office of Educational Research and Improvement (OERI), U.S. Department of Education, for discussing this document.[7]

Source

Originally posted by FallenWun
This is nonsense.
I just drove through one of your boogey man FEMA camps two days ago. I will be GLAD to be rounded up and "kept" there. Mostly because I want to see how that happens with an empty field. Anyway, no. Turn off Alex Jones once in a while. Do not believe every caller to Coast to Coast.

All FEMA needs is an open feild, When I was in the service we as in "my chalk and 10 more chalks" did 8 square acres in 12ft chain length in less than 24 hrs. FEMA just wants us in a cage they dont care if its got a roof on it.

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Thanks for that response! I followed the majority of what your saying, and what I gather is control. TPTB just want indefinite control of all.

A true leader has everything, yet wants nothing. I would rather die then be force controlled. Currently, I have enough free will ability in my 'controlled' situation so I am content. But I would like to make this point:

No matter what happens, be it Aliens, natural disaster, government control, WW3, or whatever other end game situation you can think of... You always have a choice. You can only be controlled if you let them. There is always another option, it may not be pretty or even easy, but its there if you can see it!

This is my 2c, have a nice day!

ThatGuy45

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532 people were elected to make laws and spend federal budget, and make federal budget. what does that have to do with the rest of us?