Egyptians Are Becoming Unstoppable (Warning: Graphic Pictures)

reply to post by ofhumandescent


You said...
Yes the world is waking up,Americans evidently aren't as yet so fast
and as brave.

We americans are waking up and our population is armed to the teeth!
Why do you think that the american government is so hot to abolish the
2nd amendment? When our population finally wakes up,our government
has more to fear from us,then we do from them.

Thanks for a wonderful thread that shows the bravery of the Egyptian people. I can only hope the rest of the world follows in their footsteps and shouts ENOUGH. I'm waiting patiently, but not holding my breath, for the western world to also spring into action.

Wallahi I love what's going on in Egypt. Minus the people being killed, I love seeing the people fight back. They think it's ok to pick people off from behind the scenes? Pick them off.. They wanna take your eye? Take theirs. # this complacent dumb sheeple mentality.

I pray to God almighty that Amerikans start waking up and FIGHTING THESE BEASTS!

reply to post by mamabeth


A revolution in America wouldn't look anything like Egypt. No masses in the city square just millions of ticked-off Americans with guns looking to shoot about anything in a uniform.
There are soldiers who would fire on their comrades before they would obey an order to shoot protesters.
That's why they are using this creeping incrementalism here to take control of everything hoping to starve us in to submission.

My hopes and prayers are with the people of Egypt and of the world.
May we all taste the sweet air of freedom and brotherhood one day.

reply to post by TheAlmo


Excellent information...First of all, I'm an American in the US and so the news I get here is likely cleansed, so can you summarize what the protests are actually about?

And let me point out that you are NOT a coward, it takes a certain kind of man to willing place himself in from of a bullet, and I'm sure your spreading of this info is just as brave whether you think it or not.

And lastly, I spent a year in the Sinai with the US Army in the 90's and visited Cairo. Loved it and have much respect for Egypt and it's people.

I'm not trying to make fun of this topic, but reading though this I couldn't stop sthinking about the Borg from Start Trek.
I know it sounds rather silly, but with constanly addapting to what is thrown at them.. (get attacked -> create protective gear, gasses -> antidote, ..)

No conspiracy on the tear gas at all.

ALS is the primary manufacturer and exporter to govts world wide. They have to pay about $35 each US and get an export permit. ALS is in the Money making business and no one gets anything for free from them.

The other manufacturer before that was China and everyone has stopped using their tear gas products as many of them didnt give off gas properly and some just exploded like hand grenades.

All of the Chinese products were tossed out a couple years ago.

reply to post by Asktheanimals

May we all taste the sweet air of freedom and brotherhood one day.

I agree with your post.

But:
For that to happen, the other 51% of USA citizens would need to be de-brainwashed and weaned off the Boob-Tube. I know too many dum-a$$es who can recite the message to the letter from the corporate owned ABCNNBCBS-FAUX propaganda machine.

We'll just keep on takin' it without any lubricant until most of the people get off the hardcore boob-tube teleprompter. Just my humble opinion.

If the other 51% do figure it out, OWS will look like a picnic in the park.

reply to post by Asktheanimals


I disagree - I think the Egyptians, like the Tunisians, Libyans, and even Syrians, are showing us the true spirit of revolution. They're taking to the streets and demanding real, substantive change in their government - or calling for it's complete removal.

America? We have some protesters take to the streets and then all the fat neckbeards hiding behind their computer screens attack them calling them dirty communist hippies, while the current crop of politicos openly mock them, telling them to get a job and take a bath. The spirit of the American revolution has flown the coop. Our 'revolutionary message' is bought and paid for by our corporate masters - and it's 'give our corporate masters more control'.

I hope Arab Spring wipes the slate clean over there, and they can remind us how it's done.

Originally posted by TheAlmo


Americans unknowingly pay money that contributes in the oppression and destruction of other nations. How sad.

Americans unknowingly pay money that contributes in the oppression and destruction of our own nation as well. How very sad. And Ironic.

Originally posted by Blackmarketeer

America? We have some protesters take to the streets and then all the fat neckbeards hiding behind their computer screens attack them calling them dirty communist hippies, while the current crop of politicos openly mock them, telling them to get a job and take a bath. The spirit of the American revolution has flown the coop. Our 'revolutionary message' is bought and paid for by our corporate masters - and it's 'give our corporate masters more control'.

I hope Arab Spring wipes the slate clean over there, and they can remind us how it's done.

Sorry but you can't compare the two. We may be dissatisfied with our lot but Egyptians had it a whole lot worse. It has not yet got to the tipping point in US, UK, etc. Plus it's a totally different culture/mindset.
GO EGYPT GO!

When I first heard that the clashes are on again, I was worried. Same old story once again?

But the military never did what they promised and it seemed, that they would try to sing the nation back into sleep.
So maybe this new uprising is the only way to keep the spirit alive and show Tantawi, that he cannot take over and be the profiteer from the revolution.
But there are also voices, who want to stop all this, fearing that the low economy even gets worse with the ongoing protests.

Right now tear gas is shot at the people in Mohamed Mahmoud street.
It won't stop until it's over. May the result be a positive example for the rest of the world.

I just heard on CNN that the REligious clerics are calling for police to lay down their arms and to stop firing on their own. Protesters are close to coming to an agreement with security forces. But darn, look at what it takes.

Egyptians unlike Americans have a long history. People seem to forget what a young country we are. We do not have a "beast" with-in us any longer. 40% of Americans are on mood altering prescription drugs. 20% (or more) are on mood altering illegal drugs.

Is it any wonder that after weeks of the OWS movement that every State Capitol Park does not look like the Square in the OP's post? I don't think so............

We simply do not have the cultural gonads for anything other than a bit of bitching and whining in all but a very small portion of the population. Sadly it will take a lot more than a few people getting beat up by cops to change anything. Heck the cops have been beating people up in this Country for a long time, hence the proof of my statement.

I would love to see real change happen in this Country. It is a long way off IMHO.

Originally posted by TheAlmo
reply to post by citizen6511

 

It's true that Americans paid for those tear gas shells. Check out this picture of a shell used by the Egyptian police made in USA:



Americans unknowingly pay money that contributes in the oppression and destruction of other nations. How sad.

What? American's paid for the gas shells? It says MADE IN THE USA.

Not MADE IN THE USA AND PAID FOR BY THE USA.

In case you're too slow to realize it, the Egyptian Military is the one who "payed" for it.

Originally posted by type0civ
reply to post by TheAlmo

 

Excellent information...First of all, I'm an American in the US and so the news I get here is likely cleansed, so can you summarize what the protests are actually about?

Just received this statement, which summarizes things very plain:

Updates on the Situation in Egypt: What is Happening Dear All, I am writing to you to tell you about the situation in Egypt at the moment, as I am not sure about the accuracy of the media. Last Friday there was a huge demonstration in Tahrir Square calling for ending the military rule, to end military trials for civilians (more than 12,000 civilians have been referred to military tribunals) and to object to the supra constitutional principles. There was a huge numbers from different communities that attended the demonstration and most of them left the Square by evening. Separate from that, the injured of the revolution & families of martyrs have established a sit-in for months in different areas including Tahrir Square calling for the state to cover their treatment expenses and give them compensations. On Saturday, 19 November, security forced dispersed the injured using violence which provoked people to go back to Tahrir again to support them (like what happened on 28/29 June). Many have claimed that this is the Islamists revolting to gain power, which is completely false, what is going on at the moment is the Egyptian people are revolting against police brutality and military rule. Security forces are using different kinds of tear gases excessively, rubber bullets, birdshot and live ammunition against protesters up till now and they are getting more violent with each passing day causing the death of 30 persons and leaving more than 1700 of injured (official records from the Ministry of Health), including many who were targeted in their eyes and the upper part of their bodies. People are being arrested arbitrarily and violently, including volunteers field doctors who are helping the injured and journalists covering the events. Field hospitals are being attacked on purpose to disable doctors from helping the injured. As the violence continues today for the 5th day from the security forces against unarmed protesters, more people are taking up the streets in support of the ones already on the ground in more than 5 cities. The one thing that would harm us the most is to portray the situation and simplify it to a fight over power religious/political groups and the army or that the people in the streets are thugs and are seeking the destruction of the country to cause chaos. We are all in the streets fighting against police brutality and militarism. Support us by spreading the truth about the situation and correcting the misinformation spreading since Mubarak stepped out. Videos: youtu.be... - youtu.be... - youtu.be... Images: goo.gl... - goo.gl... - goo.gl... - goo.gl... - goo.gl... - goo.gl... - goo.gl... Statements by Human Rights Groups: - Joint Statement by Egyptian Groups: goo.gl... [En] - Human Rights Watch goo.gl... [En] What we are demanding is accountability. Thank you

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Originally posted by SkyMuerte
I just heard on CNN that the REligious clerics are calling for police to lay down their arms and to stop firing on their own. Protesters are close to coming to an agreement with security forces. But darn, look at what it takes.

Egyptians unlike Americans have a long history. People seem to forget what a young country we are. We do not have a "beast" with-in us any longer. 40% of Americans are on mood altering prescription drugs. 20% (or more) are on mood altering illegal drugs.

Is it any wonder that after weeks of the OWS movement that every State Capitol Park does not look like the Square in the OP's post? I don't think so............

We simply do not have the cultural gonads for anything other than a bit of bitching and whining in all but a very small portion of the population. Sadly it will take a lot more than a few people getting beat up by cops to change anything. Heck the cops have been beating people up in this Country for a long time, hence the proof of my statement.

I would love to see real change happen in this Country. It is a long way off IMHO.

Someone who sees it for what it is.

reply to post by TheAlmo


Yeah, you had a revolution in the spring coutesy of the egyptian military, and now they are in control and so once again the people are under yet another dictatorship, this one will be a military dictatorship like Cuba and Castro has been in power since he 60's and that MF is still alive 50 years later and still in power albeit he's on his last legs because most people don't live passed their 70's.

This should send shivers down the spins of the 1%


You're nothing!


So be nice

Sorry folks! the truth is, the revolution was engineered and manupilated by an elite group?

Originally posted by mamabeth
reply to post by ofhumandescent

 

You said...
Yes the world is waking up,Americans evidently aren't as yet so fast
and as brave.

We americans are waking up and our population is armed to the teeth!
Why do you think that the american government is so hot to abolish the
2nd amendment? When our population finally wakes up,our government
has more to fear from us,then we do from them.

Yeah and i am pretty sure Christ doesn't want his children getting involved in this because it's a wordly matter and not for us to be concerned with. Thats probably the main reason all this OWS stuff hasn't already exploded into real battles with people on both sides getting killed. It is coming though, this stuff is only going to get worse as tempers flare and people get tired of being shot at with rubber bullets and pepper spray or tear gas and thats probably why they are doing it, to push people over the edge so they have a reason to kill the revolutionaries.