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Amazing UFO burning over russia (video)

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posted on Nov, 23 2011 @ 01:02 PM
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I think its funny and ironic to read around the alien forum. Even the people on this forum that believe aliens are visiting try and debunk every sighting and video like a bunch of hypocrites. It's unfortunate that there's a paranoid atmosphere and fear of hoax's, photoshop, CGI and whatever. On one hand they believe aliens are real and are visiting, but on the other hand every video and photograph must be a hoax to them, as if there could be no genuine video recording of such a phenomena. Without even thoroughly analysing a picture or video they usually say, boldly and naively, after watching it for only a few seconds "it's CGI" or "photoshop".

What is it with UFO/alien believers that debunk ufo/alien evidence? Which one are you? Believer or debunker? I suggest you guys actually use some sort of video analyzing software tool to examine the video, instead of quickly throwing around these half-assed un-expert opinions. How anyone could come to the conclusion that it's a hoax after a few seconds of watching without doing any kind of analysis is beyond me.
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posted on Nov, 23 2011 @ 01:02 PM
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firework rocket



posted on Nov, 23 2011 @ 01:12 PM
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Its obviously meteorites or swap gas controlled by weather balloons. This reminds me of the Kecksburg event.

2nd



posted on Nov, 23 2011 @ 01:24 PM
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Very cool, i like the complete sync in the performance.

Windy weather, i'll go for the kite thing.
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posted on Nov, 23 2011 @ 01:29 PM
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No idea. Half the # I see I have no idea what it is anymore.

Very odd and my guess is that it is some sort of Military project.



posted on Nov, 23 2011 @ 01:32 PM
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Flares and gliders do loop dee loops in sync? It also looks like it split from 2 into 4 after a bit, and appeared to accelerate at times. Maybe someone should email the uploader for more information or see if there were any types of air shows that day, I would but I'm not wow'd enough for that kind of effort.



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posted on Nov, 23 2011 @ 01:32 PM
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I am going to go with a group of planes either in an airshow or practicing for an airshow. The videos above of the night view of the planes show the same "sparks" and contrails.



posted on Nov, 23 2011 @ 01:39 PM
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Do you really believe that a plane could be entirely engulfed in flames and still remain flyable in the air for that long? Can an air plane remain completely engulfed in flames and fly like that?



posted on Nov, 23 2011 @ 01:44 PM
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You just joined this website a month ago...? If you have been on here for even half a year you would know a lot of videos and pictures are natural and get manipulated with a UFO title to them. And yet you came into the discussion not to put in your two cents, but to criticize people that have made opinionated comments about the video which is more than you did in your two paragraphs of rant. What could it be then?? A couple of Aliens and UFOs?? Is this the undeniable proof so many of us have been waiting for? Not even close. Is it a UFO? Yes.

Cool video none the less, but there has to be a hard analysis of the videos posted due to hoax and CGI. Is this the only report of this even that happened. Surely someone else on that beach was filming also..

P.S. I'm not a debunker, because I have seen UFOs in our upper atmosphere quite often. I just don't jump on board with every claim of ET especially with short clips of them that surface on the Internet.

*Re-reading my post sounded a little harsh, but I'm only responding to your first post.
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posted on Nov, 23 2011 @ 01:55 PM
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I don't mean to be rude here but seriously you guy's are not using even a quarter of your brains, it's like some people here have turned their logic and reasoning faculties set to OFF-MODE.

The kite theory can be easily done away with because clearly this object is very far out, probably several miles in the air, and also notice how it goes from one side of the beach and then towards the end it goes clear past not only the beach, but past the entire land formation. Wow! they must have used several miles of kite string!

The airplane theory can also be done away with, simply because, according to my logic, these four craft appear to be completely engulfed in flames and it is impossible for any (known) man-made conventional jet air craft to be consumed in flames like this and still remain operable, they would fall apart and explode. So this is a terrible theory as well.

The CGI/digital manipulation theory is plausible, but I don't have the expertise or any video analyzing software to explore this theory and neither does anyone else that has responded so far. But in my opinion judging by how the people on the beach are just standing there and how they appear to be fixated on the objects I think this video is real.

Logic and reason alone says: These 4 objects are not planes, they are not kites. Whether it's been digitally manipulated or not remains to be explored by a capable and knowledgeable individual, but I don't think so personally.



posted on Nov, 23 2011 @ 02:21 PM
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Originally posted by Sheffield
I don't mean to be rude here but seriously you guy's are not using even a quarter of your brains, it's like some people here have turned their logic and reasoning faculties set to OFF-MODE.


If that's not an insult, do you consider it to be a compliment then? Nevermind that, let's move on.



The airplane theory can also be done away with, simply because, according to my logic...


Woah, hold your horses! People around here aren't neccessarily interested in subscribing to your version of logic. Sometimes you don't need to think for yourself even, sometimes it'll do with some empirical evidence, like for instance using your eyes. Let me demonstrate...

The following video is from a MCAS Miramar airshow in 2009. Look at the video from about seven minutes:



And from approximately eight minutes and twelve seconds:



Notice how the single airplane turns on additional pyrotechnics in the course of that timeframe. Now, would you still like to discard that airplane "theory"? If so, that's perfectly fine by me.



posted on Nov, 23 2011 @ 02:21 PM
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I was just about to post this exact thing, then I thought to myself that I should read ALL the post to see if someone had already explained why the kite and plane theroy was obsurd.

I also doubt that the video was 'completly' CGI due to the people on the beach obveouly watching somthing going on in the sky. Now if this is CGI its done pretty darn well. All the angles and lighting seem right. I dont think its an alien UFO seems way to coordinated to be a flaming crashing craft.

My best guess is there could have been an actual air show going on and someone could have dubbed the planes out and replaced them with these flaming orbs, I dunno. just my best guess.


Neat video none the less



About the Mirimar airshow video vid:
The pyrotecnics are on the wing tips, in the OP video there are no planes to be seen. Just white hot glowing orbs. Now someone could have dubbed out the planes in the OP video. That seems plausable

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posted on Nov, 23 2011 @ 02:31 PM
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But at the end up the video we can see it exiting to the left of the beach. Unless the holder of the kite was on a boat of behind the cliffs it couldnt be a kite.

And to Droogie, it isnt an air show because you can clearly see theres no plane.



posted on Nov, 23 2011 @ 02:31 PM
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Originally posted by jeenyus2008
I don't have any idea what it could be, but why wouldn't the cameraman zoom in???...Even just a little. Sorry for such a short response, but with a video like this its hard to tell without any given details.

Could have been filmed using a phone/smartphone without optical zoom.



posted on Nov, 23 2011 @ 03:02 PM
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It's either the wicked witch of the west and her twin sister...... or a couple of demons showing off. I don't think it's kites or airplanes...myself...but that's just my opinion.



posted on Nov, 23 2011 @ 03:43 PM
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clearly chinese lanterns in volatile weather. obviously.



posted on Nov, 23 2011 @ 03:51 PM
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Of course, UFO's always perform standard airshow manuevers.

Looks like two planes with pyrotechnics on each wing. The planes aren't clearly visible because it's dark and it is a low quality video.



posted on Nov, 23 2011 @ 04:31 PM
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Originally posted by Phage
Of course, UFO's always perform standard airshow manuevers.

Looks like two planes with pyrotechnics on each wing. The planes aren't clearly visible because it's dark and it is a low quality video.


Thats what it 'looks' like. but there are several parts in the video that you can see the background sky inbetween all the leading points of light. and the video is actually pretty clear, its just not zoomed in.

If you go frame by frame you can see the brackground sky all the way up to the leading edge of the light. go to the :49 second mark and freeze it. Those points of light are pretty far from each other and for them to be on the wingtips of two planes you would without a dobt see the planes.
So..if they are just pyroteknics on wing tips, when did they start puting wings on the VERY front of planes?

The only way I could see this video being planes are if there are 4 very small planes with the sparks coming from canisters on kynard wings on the front of the planes. Other than that, I would have to say the video has been tampered with.
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posted on Nov, 23 2011 @ 04:36 PM
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Remote controlled aerial pyrotechnics. Scroll down the LINK ...
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posted on Nov, 23 2011 @ 04:50 PM
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They seemed to be using an awful lot of fuel for alien spaceships, less they were malfunctioning.
I cant see why they, if they were indeed aliens would put on an airshow for the public.

Those two then four lights were not planes or a plane (maybe an invisible x wing fighter from star wars??), cant see a plane. Moved to fast for a kite over to big an area. The fuel looked like phosphorous.
Great vid and remains a mystery to me. Would love to know what it is



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