Armed illegals stalked Border Patrol Mexicans were 'patrolling' when agent was slain, indictment s

Armed illegals stalked Border Patrol Mexicans were 'patrolling' when agent was slain, indictment says

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Five illegal immigrants armed with at least two AK-47 semi-automatic assault rifles were hunting for U.S. Border Patrol agents near a desert watering hole known as Mesquite Seep just north of the Arizona-Mexico border when a firefight erupted and one U.S. agent was killed, records show.

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"Five illegal immigrants (Firstly their Cartel and not immigrants if they are) armed with at least two AK-47 semi-automatic assault rifles (and) were hunting for U.S. Border Patrol agents"- Those who immigrate here seeking a better life and are deemed illegal for trying to cross a desert without being caught
Cartel hit man go shooting people up to
A) Be feared and
B) distract the Border Patrol so drugs can go across unnoticed

The Times and MSM in general group them all together make all people south of the US into a bunch of blood thirsty barbarians
When those AK-47 most likely where sold by the ATF to the guy who took them to Mex and sold them to the Cartel to hunt the Border Patrol, "illegal immigrants" and Innocent people all across Mexico that get in the way. True Terror propagated those evil heartless souls
From within the governments vastly over growing and ever evolving Institutions and Bureaucratic Agency's made of so many people whose variously divided moral and ethical ideologies compromise this Country since they protect themselves and serve their master without question Lead us through chaos by perpetuating fear above all and soothsaying we people in faith our leadership to do whatever it must and to believe those leaders of unknown solidus, Who ask us to put trust in god and them by surrendering mindful thought of thy own will and power over to the "one nation under god" that is not divisible for it is invisible to those who know and seek answers, But few understand, most never wish to the knowledge of truth.

This is to (me at least) direct proof of an agenda by some unseen group or groups with similar social standing that are competing as well as supporting their shard ends thru complexes that veil means and serve to both darken those under them into unknown state fear so those unknown fears of darkness within the mind of the masses to guide how they see their world and understand the reality, simultaneously overloading and also blinding the mind inlighting it with a hale of information making all below them live as if they where staring into the sun trying to find the source of light, but seeing nether where light starts or wherein darkness begins.

Freedom is slavery, War is peace, Time is Money

Keeping people encircling a prison matrix of self-imposed mental slavery
Simply by letting them have freedom but not free time always be looking to find whatever solution best suits their own answers to what questions matter to their own moments, finding comfort in the false presumption that they understand how it all works.
Allowing them to pass judgement (1 should never pass judgement until U pass On) and move on to the next problem never connecting the effect and correcting the cause because every cause has an effect and every effect has a cause the effect of random events are just the result of causes unknown.

But not unknowable.

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The media (and government) really needs to do a better job distinguishing between 'illegal immigrants' and cartel-related drug smugglers. Illegal immigrant sounds like someone just wanting to start a new life based on the American dream, but the threat is from the cartels and their drug and money mules, they're the ones waging an all out war on the border.

I watched a video as smugglers lifted a drug-laden vehicle over the fence with a crane so it could race off across the Texas desert before interception, or videos of drug-runners using ultra-lights to fly and drop drug packages into the US, or worse the constant flow of drug-runners over the Rio Grande or through tunnels.

These aren't 'illegal immigrants', their organized crime and a declaration of war from the Mexican cartels. Hunting and stalking border agents is just an escalation of tactics they already use in Mexico. ICE and Border Patrol alone aren't going to handle this, they need a full-time para-military response force to take these goons on.

Right now they send out border patrol agents to stop illegal immigrants - the migrant farm laborer, the housekeeper, landscaper, etc., but these agents are increasingly running into heavily armed cartel members.

This why I see no changes

And that the way it is
And the world's within a world of Divided ideology's similar of ignorance composing the Us + v.s - them Racist Hate filled mentality

And why we've been living in a Gangsta's Paradise



My Favorite Quotations

With Communism man exploits man. With Capitalism it's the exact opposite. ____
" If voting could actually make a difference, it would be illegal" _____

Elderly Man: "In the church, they say to forgive."
Creasy:" Forgiveness is between them and God. It's my job to arrange the meeting."

But its important to remember we people to often find it easier to be a result of the past than a cause of the future. so i leave this quote for last

Senator Robert F. Kennedy on the night of the assassination of Martin Luther King, Jr. quoting a passage from the play Agamemnon, said: "My favorite poet was Aeschylus. He once wrote: 'Even in our sleep, pain which cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, until in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom through the awful grace of God.' What we need in the United States is not division; what we need in the United States is not hatred; what we need in the United States is not violence or lawlessness; but love and wisdom, and compassion toward one another, and a feeling of justice toward those who still suffer within our country, whether they be white or they be black... Let us dedicate ourselves to what the Greeks wrote so many years ago: to tame the savageness of man and make gentle the life of this world." The speech is considered to be Kennedy's finest

( 2 months after MLK assassination RFK was assassinated killing yet another one of the few great leaders of a lost generation which has ultimately left the next generation leaderless with no truly great people who haven't been shot or killed in mysterious car crashes heart attacks )

And a song from the hearts to the heart

The border needs to be militarized.

Originally posted by milkyway12
The border needs to be militarized.

You really think the US military can take on Mexican drug cartels AND an army of drug fiends within the US? The implications of militarizing the US/Mexican border go far beyond just simply guarding it from some drug smugglers.

However, militarizing the border may distabilize NAFTA just enough for Canada to jump out of it...

I know one thing OP....

That was the longest run-on sentence ever. I had to give up trying to read your take on it.

-On Topic-

I agree with the guy that said militarize our border.
We dont need troops patrolling middle eastern borders when we have a war going on right at our doorstep, not to mention the massive droves of illegals crossing into the US.

We wouldnt have to worry about us running guns into Mexico if we had our military there, cause I know for a fact that they dont want to get shot at with their own weapons.

If anyone is going to run guns, its going to be a political move. ::coughobamaholdercough::

reply to post by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi


YES,our military can take on the drug cartels and secure the southern borders.
The real problem is will they be allowed to do so by our own government?

Originally posted by mamabeth
reply to post by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi

 

YES,our military can take on the drug cartels and secure the southern borders.
The real problem is will they be allowed to do so by our own government?

Yeah, I severely doubt that. If they could, then they probably would have done it.

Really, seriously, think about it. Millions of Americans depend on these drugs from the cartels, and there's already an expanded arm of the drug cartels in the US.

Mexico has been cracking down on the drug cartels in their own borders. What has resulted? Tens of thousands dead, terrorism, political assassinations, police afraid of the cartels.

What do you think would happen within the US if the drug business was threatened there? The cartels would not just sit back in fear of the US government. Hell, they even own elements within it.

This isn't as simple as "we fight the drug lords and it'll solve our problem". For one, the problem lies well within the very fact of why there is even such a market for the drug cartels in the US. Secondly, we aren't talking about conventional warfare here; we're talking about professional drug cartels who obviously make excellent asymmetrical operatives.

Third, to what extent do you think your own government is involved in the drug trade itself? If the "war on terrorism" is really a war of terrorism, then what do you think the "war on drugs" is?

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I said that our government WILL NOT allow our troops
to patrol the southern borders.Our government WANTS
those drugs coming into our country in order to enslave
the population.
It makes you go ummm...border patrol guards are sent
to prison for trying to stop drug dealers from entering in.
The drug dealers are given the red carpet treatment along
with the keys to the cities!

reply to post by mamabeth


Alright, sorry for the misinterpretation

The Drug War is all about controlling drug traffic and has nothing to do with stopping it. That it can be used to create instability is another reason to promote it and use it toward that end where people will demand military intervention. Those demanding as much should be given a patriot pin to wear proudly on their lapel.

Demand/Supply - A market is created when there is a demand. It is only possible to eliminate the market by eliminating demand. Eliminating or decreasing supply only creates scarcity which makes the market more profitable and dynamic. Controlling a market creates power.

reply to post by Erongaricuaro

Thats why the CIA killed Pablo Escobar in 93 and In 94 Put NAFTA into effect by 95 the Mexican peso depreciated 123% send the hard working people of Mexico to a future where there is free movement of goods across the border but not people leaving most with 2-3 option who now have to work at an American factory that pays them penny's because the peso lost so much value slowly forcing people to seek better opportunity both of which are illegal by the laws of the U.S.

But are condoned to give simple minded Americans a scapegoat illegal immigrants for the effect of problems whose cause originate within the to big to pin down Government that profits in all way sometime in multiple ways like drugs which the U.S. is at war with costing billions in a war that no one wants won since have to go thru Mexico to get to the U.S. which is what the CIA wanted since Columbia cartels and Pablo like Gaddafi(and the gold dinar) whose influence threatened the balance of power, budgets and Economic security had to be eliminated.

Replacing power of the producers of product over to the shipper (or at least the way almost all trafficers have to bribe their way thru, which over the last 2 decades has turned Mexico into a place of Cartel gang warfare. with assissinations and mass graves becoming so normal that I would rather go to the middle east then Mexi right now
Since this violence is not just due to the apathy of US gov but directly supported by the selling weapons destined to south of the border which ATF gets funding from the budget as a US law enforcement agency and then uses that money to buy guns and sell them to traffickers who they dont even keep track of what a scam all while the CIA maintains soft power over the cartels and Mexico's Government using Anonymous to threaten officials with the release of information on to the internet about whose on the take, which doesn't matter whether they took the bribe or not its enough to turn people against those who are trying to help
but really knows

al qaeda who just used and warped the beliefs of foolish pawns was founded by the CIA and later where funded by the ISI who where funded by the CIA ,

Anonymous is just the internet al qaeda a group of unknowns used to terrorize the weak into choosing something that ether polarizes groups of people or whatever gives them the choice between the lesser of 2 Evil so they always are stuck between A) and B) never C)ing D) as all of the above

Better to be fear then loved but why not both if everyone knows you but people see you and names you differently like the wizard of OZ who appears as a different thing to each character untill they all go see him together and he revealed to be just and old man behind the curtain

Ether there are unlimited man behind curtains with curtains on curtains so that here in the US the dysfunctional Organization of overlapping complex defined and undefinable position of leadership are never simply thought of as a just one big schizo country that be crazy

reply to post by Erongaricuaro
This is why the CIA killed Pablo Escobar in 93 and In 94 Put NAFTA into effect by 95 the Mexican peso depreciated 123% send the hard working people of Mexico to a future where there is free movement of goods across the border but not people leaving most with 2-3 option who now have to work at an American factory that pays them penny's because the peso lost so much value slowly forcing people to seek better opportunity both of which are illegal by the laws of the U.S.

But are condoned to give simple minded Americans a scapegoat illegal immigrants for the effect of problems whose cause originate within the to big to pin down Government that profits in all way sometime in multiple ways like drugs which the U.S. is at war with costing billions in a war that no one wants won since have to go thru Mexico to get to the U.S. which is what the CIA wanted since Columbia cartels and Pablo like Gaddafi(and the gold dinar) whose influence threatened the balance of power, budgets and Economic security had to be eliminated.

Replacing power of the producers of product over to the shipper (or at least the way almost all trafficers have to bribe their way thru, which over the last 2 decades has turned Mexico into a place of Cartel gang warfare. with assissinations and mass graves becoming so normal that I would rather go to the middle east then Mexi right now
Since this violence is not just due to the apathy of US gov but directly supported by the selling weapons destined to south of the border which ATF gets funding from the budget as a US law enforcement agency and then uses that money to buy guns and sell them to traffickers who they dont even keep track of what a scam all while the CIA maintains soft power over the cartels and Mexico's Government using Anonymous to threaten officials with the release of information on to the internet about whose on the take, which doesn't matter whether they took the bribe or not its enough to turn people against those who are trying to help
but really knows

al qaeda who just used and warped the beliefs of foolish pawns was founded by the CIA and later where funded by the ISI who where funded by the CIA ,

Anonymous is just the internet al qaeda a group of unknowns used to terrorize the weak into choosing something that ether polarizes groups of people or whatever gives them the choice between the lesser of 2 Evil so they always are stuck between A) and B) never C)ing D) as all of the above

Better to be fear then loved but why not both if everyone knows you but people see you and names you differently like the wizard of OZ who appears as a different thing to each character untill they all go see him together and he revealed to be just and old man behind the curtain

Ether there are unlimited men behind curtains with curtains on curtains so that here in the US the dysfunctional Organization of overlapping complexly defined and undefinable positions of leadership are thought of as a singular unit Instead of just one simply divided schizo Nation of competing states that be way to much for most to think about.

yes its sad [people are poor in mexico. but this is america i know about give us your tired and hungry masses. the cartels are using the other illegeals as a distraction to come across their border to operate in these united states. mexico will not do anything about it because they are corrupt we need to send in 10 marine battalions to root out all the cartels. we need to use oue cyber warriors to trace akll the drug money be funneled through the banking industry. instead of ice going after illegeal downloads have them seize drug money from cartels stamp them out . instead legalize cannabis let it be next cash crop for southern states and charge a dolar a pack tax

Originally posted by milkyway12
The border needs to be militarized.

If so called "US interests" were threatened.. DC mafia clowns from both partys would be on CNN tomorrow belching talking point propaganda to justify militarizing the Mexican border.

But, unfortunately for you, US interests are in fact served by cheap exploitable labor boogie men flowing across across the southern border.. along with always popular & in demand without advertising "illegal" organic plant matter... knows as "DRUGS!!" DAADAADUUUN!! (dramatic music)

Duh.. they'll pay $400 per gallon of gas and needlessly waste hero lives to patrol the Afghanistan /Pakistan border.. while leaving the southern border of US soil a gaping maw. It's not hard to figure out which is more important to "them"..

A border sieve suits the DC mafiosos bought & paid for needs... what you think?, heh.. as irrelevant as the laws they swore to uphold. If you get fed up, angry, grrr.. vote for the other party!!..lol get some of that change you can believe in.

The public gets played like sucker chumps year after year, after a fresh serving of incompetent feces stew stirred to the "right", they vote for a bowl stirred to the left.. then eat it, slurping up dear leaders juices.. as the lessor of 2 crappy dinners.

Hunger is the best gravy.

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