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Former Intelligence Asset and Mercenary Operative Here For Your Questions

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posted on Dec, 3 2011 @ 11:35 PM
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Originally posted by zorgon

Originally posted by LiveToSpendIt
won't hoop jump, all that will happen then is the doubters will scream photoshop.


No they won't just make sure the EXIF data is intact on the photo







posted on Dec, 4 2011 @ 12:04 AM
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Originally posted by zorgon

Did you assassinate Gandhi and if so why? If not what connection did your group have with that assassination...


You will need a lot of background to get the correct interpretation of events. In short, no to the first question.

My FBI background includes a role in the aborted 1981 KKK attempt to stage a coup on the Caribbean island of Dominica. That attempt, which was led by the New Orleans and Toronto KKK, was nominally undertaken to create a Nazi state in the Caribbean.

Actually, there were two reasons: to create a new coc aine trafficking regime in the Caribbean, and to create a new staging area for Iranian operatives.

Throughout 1981, I held several meetings with David Duke and key members of the Klan and Nazis in preparation for the coup, all with the knowledge of the FBI and ATF, having been asked to train Don Black's Knights of the Ku Klux Klan at one point.

One of the more interesting features of this strange affair is that the New Orleans and Toronto would-be Nazi mercenaries were being funded by Charles Yanover, a Toronto­-based Jewish mobster tied to Cuban-linked coc aine kingpin Robert Vesco.

The same Robert Vesco who paid $200,000 in a cash donation in April 1972 to President Nixon's infamous committee to re-elect the president (Creep). That payment part-financed the Watergate burglary.

More curiously, Yanover is now in prison for having received $400,000 from North Korean intelligence in 1980 in a plot to kill South Korean head of state Chun. This same money was used to finance the KKK planned coup.

Amazing the number of layers in the international onion, isn't there?

During November 1984 through March 1985, the same period that I was training the Sikhs, I was also putting together the counter-terror units of the allegedly anti­communist FDN ("Contras") fighting for the overthrow of the pro-Soviet Nicarguan junta.

Yes, I was a busy boy.

Consider that, first, no one could learn enough at a training school like mine to become a proficient assassin in only a few weeks. Nor did the Sikhs require any training.

The most martial people in India, forming a disproportionally high percentage in the Indian armed forces, the Sikhs have long been proficient in anything I might teach them. So why train them, eh?

And why would the FBI provide me to the Sikhs? Obviously, their training in Alabama had some other,
political reason: for one, to pin the blame for Soviet terrorism on the United States and two, to allow me to infiltrate their plans.

Including their plan to assassinate Prime Minister Gandhi whlie he was in the US on a diplomatic mission. The F.B.I. has acknowledged that I was personally responsible for saving the Indian Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi's life in 1985.
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posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 02:06 AM
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Is that you. Frank? The guy who ran the private LRRP course back in the early 80's? The one who said he'd never again fight for "patriotism"?


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posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 03:43 AM
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Originally posted by AllUrChips
People that did it never want to talk about it. People that did not do it always want to talk about it. Have a good life I wish I could take my star back too. Sorta fail.


That's not exactly so - but perhaps partially. People that actually did it are pretty selective about where and to whom they talk about it. They're selective about how much detail they give up in certain circles. That doesn't have as much to do with "secrecy" as it has to do with the reception they get.

I've seen plenty of "reluctant vets" in and around people who are overly judgmental. No one likes getting in a pissing contest over the rights and wrongs of what's already done and can't be undone, especially when those "rights and wrongs" are subjective rather than objective, and depend on the individual take on morality of whomever is dishing out the abusive epithets at the time.

That's the sort of thing that has given rise to the mythology of the "reluctant vet" to begin with, Get 'em in and around there own, and I've never met one that won't sit and yak for hours, giving up all sorts of stories reminiscing about "the good old days". Stuff that will curl your hair - or make it fall out altogether.

Getting called "baby killer", "murderer", "tool of the elite" and so on often enough will cause just about anyone to clam up when they have an idea that's what's coming.



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posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 04:02 AM
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Originally posted by Frater210

Are you familiar with Fort Bragg? You must be since you are SOG. Let's talk local geography.



I'm a little familiar with it. If you've got anyone's ear at Camp McCall, ask 'em if they're ever going to get rid of NEK for the Robin Sage guerrillas and OPFORS and start running that contract themselves. NEK sucks at it from the standpoint of the contractors. I believe the SF cadre could do a much better job of running them. At least the contractors might expect to get paid up to date of injury if they get graunched on day 12 of Robin Sage. As it is, they get nada.


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posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 04:16 AM
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Originally posted by Frater210

You keep going on about Ft. Benning. Again, no Rangers there until '84.



My copy of ST 21-75 (Fiscal Year '81) came from the Ranger Dept of the infantry school at at Ft Benning. I got it in 1982. Don't know about the companies, but I know training was out of there. Near as I recall there was one company at Ft. Lewis and another at Benning, but I can't swear to it.

The Ranger School was definitely there, though.


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posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 05:00 AM
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Originally posted by LiveToSpendIt

Originally posted by Jepic
Based on your experiences as an intel asset and mercenary, what do you see in the near future in terms of war.

I would add that Israel's capabilities to launch 750k missiles toward major cities in China and Russia has significantly changed the picture in the ME.

This opens up possibilities in Iran which have not yet been available (pre-2009).


I'm gonna have to call BS on this. Israel isn't much bigger than a postage stamp. There's not enough territory there to even house 3/4 of a million missiles, especially not of the intercontinental variety.



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 05:23 AM
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Originally posted by LiveToSpendIt

Questions pertinent to the times and places of the 70s and 80s primarily...where mercs, assets and operatives were covert specialists and, in my case, not combat ready field replacements (Google Honduras - operation Pegasus) after that I entered the field of software application building for and with DoD prime contractors.



I'd really rather hear you say you're not going to start outing these folks.

Some are near and dear to me.



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 06:08 AM
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Originally posted by LiveToSpendIt

I get to Miami and meet with Gerard and Ramy Latchinian; meeting is about the rollover of the gov't of Honduras in favor of Gen. Alvarez.

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I trip on back to Honduras over to Nic. and meet my assign. It's not Hull or anyone I know is associated with Hull.



Alright, Mr Camper. I've red thus far into the thread, and have seen some red flags thrown. This story, which really ought to play well here at ATS, has one glaring problem - to my mind - so I'm going to ask for a confirm.

Here's what I want to know - what was the ONLY airline with direct flights from Miami to Tegucigalpa at that time, and what was the price of a one-way ticket on that airline for that flight?

This is something I already know, and something that isn't very likely to be found in a Google search.

That's the confirm I want.

It's on the subject matter you specified, I've been sticking up for your ass, and have gone so far as to contact a fellow who may be a mutual acquaintance to let him know you're here in case he wants to drop in.



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posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 06:27 AM
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I never flew commercial.



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 06:30 AM
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Originally posted by nenothtu
Is that you. Frank? The guy who ran the private LRRP course back in the early 80's?


Never ran a LRRPs course.


The one who said he'd never again fight for "patriotism"?


And never did.



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 06:52 AM
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Originally posted by LiveToSpendIt

Peter Dale Scott On 9/11, Watergate, Iran Contra

"While Iran-Contra exposed the $32 million which Saudi Arabia, at the urging of CIA Director William Casey, had supplied to the Contras, not a word was whispered about the $500 million or more that the Saudis, again at the urging of Casey, had supplied in the same period to the Afghan mujahedin.40 In this sense the drama of Iran-Contra in Congress can be thought of as a misdirection play, directing public attention away from America’s much more intensive engagement in Afghanistan – a covert policy that has since evolved into America’s longest war.


That was US money. It was only being filtered through the Saud to Pakistani ISI. That's why Casey didn't want it being looked at too closely.

Casey was a dick. So was Bush during his time in that seat.



Speak it, Brother. After having spent a couple of years in Saudi Arabia with what is now known as the Vinnell Corp., in the employ of the Saudi royals, it was plain as a hot Valhalla day that the major play was not in Central/Latin America (where I ended up) but in the Afghan/Paki poppy fields.


It was Vinnell Corp. back then, too, not just "now known as". They had the contract for training the Saudi military, and had a hard-on for techs, especially missile techs, among other specialties.



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 06:57 AM
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Originally posted by LiveToSpendIt
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I never flew commercial.


Southern Air Transport? Corporate Air Services? that sort of "not commercial flights"?



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 07:00 AM
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Originally posted by nenothtu
It was Vinnell Corp. back then, too, not just "now known as". They had the contract for training the Saudi military, and had a hard-on for techs, especially missile techs, among other specialties.


I worked for Vinnell SNG.



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 07:02 AM
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Originally posted by LiveToSpendIt

Originally posted by nenothtu
Is that you. Frank? The guy who ran the private LRRP course back in the early 80's?


Never ran a LRRPs course.


Well, let's call it "Recondo" then. But yeah, from what I'm reading in the thread it was the same course, and the same Camper.




The one who said he'd never again fight for "patriotism"?


And never did.



Touche. I never heard you say it with my own ears, either. Just scuttlebutt.

Please forgive the wall of posts. I've been replying as I come to them reading through the thread, and it's a lot of reading. I just got the heads up that you were here last night, by noticing one of your posts in another thread, so I'm wading through it now.



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 07:03 AM
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Originally posted by nenothtu

Originally posted by LiveToSpendIt
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I never flew commercial.
Southern Air Transport? Corporate Air Services? That sort of "not commercial flights"?


That "sort" and I often flew myself which, if you had "red thus far into the thread" you would have known.



posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 07:03 AM
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Originally posted by LiveToSpendIt

Originally posted by nenothtu
It was Vinnell Corp. back then, too, not just "now known as". They had the contract for training the Saudi military, and had a hard-on for techs, especially missile techs, among other specialties.


I worked for Vinnell SNG.


That checks.




posted on Dec, 7 2011 @ 07:09 AM
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Originally posted by LiveToSpendIt

Originally posted by nenothtu

Originally posted by LiveToSpendIt
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I never flew commercial.
Southern Air Transport? Corporate Air Services? That sort of "not commercial flights"?


That "sort" and I often flew myself which, if you had "red thus far into the thread" you would have known.


We have a mutual misunderstanding, sir. First, I misunderstood when you said "and I never did", and only caught on after a second read. It's been a long night.

By "thus far into the thread" I meant the post at that answer - page 10. I'm still there trying to get through.



posted on Dec, 11 2011 @ 07:49 AM
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Out of courtesy, I have waited for five friggin days for you to read the thread and blow this fraud out of the water.

I can only assume that you're full of it and you owe this man Frank Camper a most sincere apology.



posted on Dec, 11 2011 @ 09:39 AM
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Originally posted by WillowToad
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Out of courtesy, I have waited for five friggin days for you to read the thread and blow this fraud out of the water.

I can only assume that you're full of it and you owe this man Frank Camper a most sincere apology.


Willow...methinks you have a raging case of hero worship. I see from your profile, you follow Frank around like a puppy.

But, I guess that's to be expected in the very young.




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