Ending the Fed HAS reached OWS (Albeit strangely.)

So, let me open this post by stating that I have been involved with OWS in some capacity from the beginning, with my SOLE goal being getting Ending the Fed into the main message of this movement. I have not had great success with this as the movement grew quickly into its own massive being, now in total co-opt mode, totally out of my control (not like I had much control to begin with; I've just been trying to plant ant-Fed seeds in as many people as possible.)

There are DEFINITELY very vocal, dedicated activists working within OWS to spread the End the Fed message, and I am happy to report that a well-spoken anti-Fed person WILL be listened to by the protesters down there who are ignorant to the vampiric workings of the Fed and central banking systems. It's all just about getting the idea out there to as many as possible, and complaining from home about how they aren't addressing the Fed certainly isn't going to get it on the agenda.

Anyway, that being said, a little over a week ago I was DELIGHTED to see the semi-official OWS page post an entry about a phone-in teleconference to educate people about the Fed's role in our crisis. Here is a picture of the post:

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And now, the dark side/weird part. My delight quickly faded as I read on, seeing that the person leading the anti-Fed call in was a Dr. David C. Korten. The post itself says he is a member of the Club of Rome, Ford Foundation Project Specialist, and a regional adviser to the US Agency for International Development. He has also authored books including ""The Great Turning: From Empire to Earth Community," "When Corporations Rule the World;" and "The Post-Corporate World: Life after Capitalism" (Nov. 9 2011, occupywallst.org).

What is going on here? What's the angle? Why is a Ford Foundation/Club of Rome dude using his position to get the anti-Fed message into OWS? I found out about the call-in after it happened, so I was unable to participate, so I'm a bit lost here. On a side note, I see that his last book is subtitled "Life after Capitalism," and I argue that any nation with a central bank like the Fed is NOT a capitalist nation. So do you guys think he was putting some kind of BS twist/angle on ending the Fed, and making it about a push toward TOTAL socialism? I wish I could've heard the teleconference so I could have heard his framing, arguments and how he contextualized it all.

So to get more clues on Korten's thinking I checked out his paper, "How to Liberate America from Wall St. Rule," and after skimming through sections of it, it doesn't feel to me like he's working for the Bad Guys, or at least not trying to. After all, how could any anti-Fed message really work in their favor at this point? Maybe because they WANT to crash the Fed intentionally so that they can bring in a global IMF currency/central bank, or institute a similar scheme? Maybe. Have a look for yourself; the .pdf of the paper is here: Liberate America from Wall St. Rule (July 2011. Dr. David Korten et. al. Accessed Nov. 16 and 22, 2011).

It's worth noting that he lists numerous organizations and people as "participating" in the paper, and I haven't had a chance to check any of them out, but some look like they might be sketchy. They are listed on the paper's cover page. I'd be curious if an ATSer could compile some info on these organizations to start building a bigger picture of what Korten, and his anti-Fed message, are really about.

So everybody, let's take a look at this Korton guy and his paper and brainstorm what you think. I'm curious what we come up with; how he might be working to twist the anti-Fed message around for the ears of OWS or if, indeed, he is working with genuine intentions to end the Fed for the betterment of the American people and the people of the world. We all know there are plenty of tools and shills in NGOs like the Ford Foundation, Rockefeller's foundations etc, who have no idea what the larger agenda is--though most of them are so effectively indoctrinated they might as well know, because they're still aggressively working toward it.

Thoughts?

Good on you to educate and spread information instead of remaining irrelevant.

Originally posted by DeadBirdCitizen
Maybe because they WANT to crash the Fed intentionally so that they can bring in a global IMF currency/central bank, or institute a similar scheme?

Ending the FED is not enough...
Dissasemble all the Bretton-Woods-Institutions, the World Bank, the IMF, Central Banks and the BIS.
Put the whole banking system and fiscal policies in general back under national control.

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Colonel, I agree totally. The Fed is only one organ of the creature. The creature survives with the IMF, World Bank, Bank of International Settlements, and all the rest of them. I just figure it's a great place to start here in the USA. Once people are educated on the Fed, the rest can/will follow.

Cheers to you sir!

Originally posted by ColCurious
Good on you to educate and spread information instead of remaining irrelevant.

Originally posted by DeadBirdCitizen
Maybe because they WANT to crash the Fed intentionally so that they can bring in a global IMF currency/central bank, or institute a similar scheme?

Ending the FED is not enough...
Dissasemble all the Bretton-Woods-Institutions, the World Bank, the IMF, Central Banks and the BIS.
Put the whole banking system and fiscal policies in general back under national control.

edit on 22-11-2011 by ColCurious because: (no reason given)

Actually nothing the government does will be good enough for anyone. IF they remove the FED, people will want something else. If they remove that, they will ask for more and more and more.

Until their is no government left.

No one listens to the movement, people use the movement to push/prove their agenda(s) and it's working great. More policing is required to keep these people in check. Security for freedom.
Government now has the permission of the people to change the banking system. Not for the better.
Wars are starting and people who are going against their government will be traitors and improsined. With us or against us mentality that prevails in the military.

If i were OWS and regroup and rethink this thing, cause nothing they ask for is being done, and whatever does get done wont be for the good of the people.

very interesting this may mean the end of capitalism....
communism doesn't seem to be working either? maybe they doing well but its not reported by msm
that communist countries are doing well (look at cuba compared to haiti)

Originally posted by Insearchofthetruth1987
very interesting this may mean the end of capitalism....
communism doesn't seem to be working either? maybe they doing well but its not reported by msm
that communist countries are doing well (look at cuba compared to haiti)

Cuba would be fine if they weren't embargoed for decades.
China is doing amazing, they own most USA debt and control most manufacturing. Population is booming as well as their businesses.
Russia always has done well, they just don't brag about it. They are a major player.

MSM won't report how well/bad they are doing because it gives an opportunity to compare one countries services to another and make a decision on which system is better.
Capitalists believe we should be protected from that knowledge, for if we knew it we would choose it at their demise.

Socialism/Communism has its pro's and con's just like any political philosophy. With work it could be perfected, just as capitalism could be.

Don't delude yourself into thinking one is worse off then another though, Capitalist have actively gone after communists states and attacked them and made them democracies, however you don't see socialist doing that.

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I agree you have to start somewhere, each and every souvereign nation or state in its own backyard, and in the US that would be the FED.