Not gonna get my kids Immunised but should I do it for my Pets?

OP. Your thread title dumbfounds me. You are not going to get your kids immunized but what about your pets. lol No disrespect intended. But your pretty much either saying, "hey I'm not going to give my kids lymphoma, but my dogs and cats hey who cares. Or your saying, "hey I'm not going get my kids immunized, if they die they die, but my dogs and cats, I cant afford to lose them".

No offense but I have posted some pretty crazy # when I am stoned, but yours takes the cake.

He is manic in his depressive state.

reply to post by IkNOwSTuff


You very well could be right................we've never had a problem with our companion animals being vaccinated.

My kids, that's a different story.

But my kids are approaching middle age and there was not the information back than there is now.........we're talking decades ago.

Where I live at, my kids could not go to school unless we provided proof of immunization.

Good advice, to research.

Don't schools require immunizations from a doctor in order for a child to attend public school? Any school for that matter? I come from a long line of doctors and people in the medical profession and I can tell you with relative certainty that the vaccinations are safe for your children. The only ones I have questions about are the shady ones the US Military provides its troops. I had so many shots when I was in basic training that I could not tell you which ones I had - they could have implanted an alien embryo into me and I would not have known the difference!

reply to post by juleol


The brother of a sister you knew? Are you a doctor to make these bold statements about the negative effects of vaccinations? The father of a brother of a cousin of mine said vaccinations are perfectly safe and people who deny these benefits to their children are neglectful and should seriously questions their ability to parent.

reply to post by kosmicjack


I have two kids and they are up to date on their immunizations. The one thing I am back and forth with is the flu shot. I haven't had one in years, but last year was the only year I didn't get my children one. They were fine. I'll probably get them one this year, I just don't know. Anyones thoughts on the flu shots?

reply to post by IkNOwSTuff


Vaccines are not safe, for people or pets. Many studies have been done specifically on pet vaccinations & the cancer rates climb dramatically in pets who are vaccinated, especially cancer in the location where vaccines are injected. Visit Dr Carly's web page. Her site is atrocious (she needs a web designer to organize her page), but if you dig around for a bit you'll find it does contain links to many of these studies as well as other great info on the dangers of vaccinations.

There are a ton of sites documenting the damage of vaccines & their link to all kinds of auto-immune system disorders. If the ingredients do not directly damage you (like in the case of Autism or Alzheimer's), then the hijacking of your immune system very likely will (asthma, eczema, diabetes, IBS, Crones, colitis, cancer, Gillian Barre, SIDS, etc). The list goes on & on & on.

My sister didn't listen to me or read what i sent her & shortly after a round of vaccinations hers son 'coincidentally developed' GBS. Now he has an injection port in his chest for the frequent injection treatments he receives whenever he gets a bout of GB symptoms & his immune system is now trashed.

Dr Mayer Einstein's practice does not condone vaccinations and all these auto-immune disorders that are so common elsewhere are all-but unheard of in his practice (homefirst.com).

There is some truly nasty stuff in those needles. Inject at your own risk. Take a few weeks or months to read up all you can on vaccinations (yes, it will take that long) then make an informed decision. Just know that you're playing Russian roulette & that the damage usually isn't immediately apparent.

drcarley.com
drtenpenny.com
nvic.org
homefirst.com
mercola.com
naturalnews.com

people do what you want dont get kids shots dont get pets shots . Old country boy here have seen RABID animals with my own eyes .I dont expect you have a clue just how dangress this is .
I have also seen EVERY CAT WITHIN 20 miles wiped out because of cat lucienma .
so dont get your kids shots dont get your animals shots eather .DONT come crying to us when your kid dies of mumps and your cat goes rabid and the dog gets distemper

reply to post by xxcalbier


@OP: That's it. Take the advice of someone who can't even write properly. You're not a fool. Don't let these eejit opinions convince you that the only other option is non-immunization. There's a middle-ground: just find a vaccine without the neurotoxic compounds. Are you honestly going to take on board the opinions of someone who can't spell the words "dangerous" and "leukemia"? For the love of all things good, just think this through.

@xxcalbier: That's not a personal attack. It's an objective statement of fact. I apologize if I've hurt you but it stands.

Do you feed your pets bagged, dry food? Because that is far worse for your pet then any shots.
Feeding your cat dry, bagged food is like feeding them a steady diet of potato chips.

I used to work in the rabies program for my state, get your cat the rabies shots.

I have had to lug way too many *indoor cats* to be tested for rabies because they got out and tussled with a racoon or something unknown. then the whole family has to worry about contamination.

Btw, to test for rabies, they have to put the cat down and saw its head off as the test can only be done on brain tissue.

reply to post by stephanies-chase


The flu shot is the only shot I advocate for, and rabies. The rest I don't think are necessary.There is nothing more miserable then the flu, people think they get it when it is just a virus. it vaccinates you against that strain of flu for life.

200,000 people are hospitalized each year for the flu. Depending on the strain and severity, 3k-50k of people can die from the flu each year.

Originally posted by ILikeStars
reply to post by IkNOwSTuff

 

I'm not sure I understand why some people would not immunize their children against some things if an available option. I think it is fear of the unknown, to tell you the truth. As a military serviceman I had many more immunization shots than most people I know, to include 17 anthrax immunization shots between 1998 and 2009.

I'd pleed with you to be as informed about it as you can be prior to making the choice.

Small pox immunization could be a good thing. Small pox could be a lethal thing for a young adult.

As for pets, take care of them, too. Ask questions, be informed. I'm not an expert, so feel free to disregard my advice if you think it is best.

Have a great week,
ILikeStars

i know you mean no harm with your ignorance but do you know how vaccines are made? do you actually know what's in them? do you know what adjuvants are? have you heard of gulf war syndrome?

also if hepatitis b is transmitted through sex or blood transfusion, why are infants getting immunized with this vaccine? would you immunize your infant with an HIV vaccine if there was one?

there are things about vaccines that doesn't make sense and unclear in many ways. do not just get immunized just because your doctor tells you to. anything that's completely helpful shouldn't be this sketchy.

Originally posted by Stryc9nine

Originally posted by ILikeStars
reply to post by IkNOwSTuff

 

I'm not sure I understand why some people would not immunize their children against some things if an available option. I think it is fear of the unknown, to tell you the truth. As a military serviceman I had many more immunization shots than most people I know, to include 17 anthrax immunization shots between 1998 and 2009.

I'd pleed with you to be as informed about it as you can be prior to making the choice.

Small pox immunization could be a good thing. Small pox could be a lethal thing for a young adult.

As for pets, take care of them, too. Ask questions, be informed. I'm not an expert, so feel free to disregard my advice if you think it is best.

Have a great week,
ILikeStars

i know you mean no harm with your ignorance but do you know how vaccines are made? do you actually know what's in them? do you know what adjuvants are? have you heard of gulf war syndrome?

also if hepatitis b is transmitted through sex or blood transfusion, why are infants getting immunized with this vaccine? would you immunize your infant with an HIV vaccine if there was one?

there are things about vaccines that doesn't make sense and unclear in many ways. do not just get immunized just because your doctor tells you to. anything that's completely helpful shouldn't be this sketchy.

Well said! This is great to see that more and more people are waking up from the myth of vaccines, we'd all been in a trance-like state believing the Official Story, but now we're starting to research and use our common sense. This is why TPTB will be taking the Internet down and putting it back up in another form, there will be laws about discussing these issues.

From my many years of research, eventually I discovered that we're being injected with disease, so as the Pharms can make a lot of extra money out of us

Originally posted by nixie_nox
reply to post by stephanies-chase

 

The flu shot is the only shot I advocate for, and rabies. The rest I don't think are necessary.There is nothing more miserable then the flu, people think they get it when it is just a virus. it vaccinates you against that strain of flu for life.

200,000 people are hospitalized each year for the flu. Depending on the strain and severity, 3k-50k of people can die from the flu each year.

edit on 23-11-2011 by nixie_nox because: (no reason given)

Really? Come on...really? If the entire population of the world was only vaccinated for rabies and the flu the body count would be immeasurable.

10 Vaccines That Changed the World

Smallpox has been around since, well, we're not sure when. It's been dated possibly back as far as 10,000 B.C., killing populations around the world in epidemic after epidemic. There's no cure for smallpox, and the virus that causes it, the variola virus, kills about 30 percent of the people it infects. It can disfigure, scar and blind those who survive.
There is good news, though. Worldwide smallpox eradication was declared in 1980, all due to the success of the smallpox vaccine and global immunization efforts. In 1972, Americans were no longer vaccinated against the virus, and by 1986, no countries continued to immunize against smallpox.

reply to post by RedParrotHead


For goodness sake. Stop getting sidetracked with the vaccine vs no vaccine issue and start focusing on the neurotoxic vaccine vs safe vaccine issue.

This thread alone is perhaps proof of the mass irreparable intellectual damage associated with conventional vaccines given the worrying consensus on vaccines.

IT'S NOT THAT DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND!

Please, for the love of god, immunize your kids....

Immunizations are the most important preventative measure against the diseases that we have wiped off of the continent.

Skipping the annual flu vaccine is perfectly acceptable, but...

Originally posted by jameshawkings

Originally posted by Stryc9nine

Originally posted by ILikeStars
reply to post by IkNOwSTuff

 

I'm not sure I understand why some people would not immunize their children against some things if an available option. I think it is fear of the unknown, to tell you the truth. As a military serviceman I had many more immunization shots than most people I know, to include 17 anthrax immunization shots between 1998 and 2009.

I'd pleed with you to be as informed about it as you can be prior to making the choice.

Small pox immunization could be a good thing. Small pox could be a lethal thing for a young adult.

As for pets, take care of them, too. Ask questions, be informed. I'm not an expert, so feel free to disregard my advice if you think it is best.

Have a great week,
ILikeStars

i know you mean no harm with your ignorance but do you know how vaccines are made? do you actually know what's in them? do you know what adjuvants are? have you heard of gulf war syndrome?

also if hepatitis b is transmitted through sex or blood transfusion, why are infants getting immunized with this vaccine? would you immunize your infant with an HIV vaccine if there was one?

there are things about vaccines that doesn't make sense and unclear in many ways. do not just get immunized just because your doctor tells you to. anything that's completely helpful shouldn't be this sketchy.

Well said! This is great to see that more and more people are waking up from the myth of vaccines, we'd all been in a trance-like state believing the Official Story, but now we're starting to research and use our common sense. This is why TPTB will be taking the Internet down and putting it back up in another form, there will be laws about discussing these issues.

From my many years of research, eventually I discovered that we're being injected with disease, so as the Pharms can make a lot of extra money out of us

edit on 23-11-2011 by jameshawkings because: (no reason given)

Hahaha... wow...

You are getting injected with either a dead strain or weak strain of the disease.. NOT the disease itself. These weak/dead strains will cause your body to act producing anti-body like it just got the real disease(sensing these strain's presence) BUT you don't actually get sick, because the strains are weak/dead, some people might experience slight fever, but that's your body increasing temperature against the supposed "invasion" in order to increase the effectiveness of the immune system and slow down foreign cells. Once your body produces anti-body for the weak/dead strain, you body "memorizes them" and when you actually get attacked by the actual full blown virus/bacteria/disease you body is ready for it.

I do hope doctors give option to the people against basic Vaccines(including the DPPT) and put a red tag on their forhead.

dontr matter how you spell it death is death .
spelling mumps right isnt going to stop it from killing your kids spelling rabies right wont stop your cat from getting it.
This isnt a spelling bee this is some of the MOST DEADLY germs ever (rabies kills millions of animals yearly and if you get bite and dont get shots youl be just as dead .
Mumps (how ever you spell its still DEATH cat lucimna hey my spelling bites all And if your cat gets this MY LOUSE spelling will save your cats life . NOT
me a fool? ill laugh my self sick when you get sick because you refuse to get shots
Ps dont get shots 7 billion people now a few less would help employment problems

If you heed the medical advice of a bunch of ignorant, paranoid anti-vaccine scaremongers on a conspiracy website over the solid science and proven track record of 20th/21st century medicine then quite frankly you deserve to get ill and be pushed out of the gene pool. It's a shame that innocents (such as children, pets and the community at large) who have no say in the matter may suffer the consequences of the uniformed and irresponsible choices you made if you decide to not go down the vaccine route.

Originally posted by FurvusRexCaeli

Originally posted by JibbyJedi
I still don't get how vaccinated children are in harms way from unvaccinated, if they got they shot, what's the problem? Why can't our kids with the chicken pox be around your kids who got the vaccine?

Vaccines are not 100% efficacious in 100% of the population for 100% of their lives. Your kids with the chicken pox are putting the vaccinated population at risk (as well as the immunocompromised population, but anti-vaxers don't care about them).

Seems to be the propaganda has run so deep that nothing I or anyone can say is going to change anyone's mind, we'd need to wear a white coat and be on the TV to get credibility.

Or get published in a peer-reviewed science journal, or make a convincing argument based on facts and reason.

Okay seriously - there ARE lots of publications, controlled studies, published evidence to prove MANY scary things about vaccinations. They DO exist. The reason so many people are convinced that they don't exist or aren't real, is because the "official word" from doctors, the vaccine makers and the FDA is "there have been no proven problems..." blah blah blah. All that means is that THEY don't accept these publications and studies. Then they promulgate this to the world who then believes it.

And I HATE when people say people who don't get vaccinations are irresponsible. Do not forget that for many vaccines, the virus vaccinated against is SHED by the vaccinated person for up to 72 hours, and can be found in their feces for up to 6 weeks!

Originally posted by luciddream

Originally posted by jameshawkings

Originally posted by Stryc9nine

Originally posted by ILikeStars
reply to post by IkNOwSTuff

 

I'm not sure I understand why some people would not immunize their children against some things if an available option. I think it is fear of the unknown, to tell you the truth. As a military serviceman I had many more immunization shots than most people I know, to include 17 anthrax immunization shots between 1998 and 2009.

I'd pleed with you to be as informed about it as you can be prior to making the choice.

Small pox immunization could be a good thing. Small pox could be a lethal thing for a young adult.

As for pets, take care of them, too. Ask questions, be informed. I'm not an expert, so feel free to disregard my advice if you think it is best.

Have a great week,
ILikeStars

i know you mean no harm with your ignorance but do you know how vaccines are made? do you actually know what's in them? do you know what adjuvants are? have you heard of gulf war syndrome?

also if hepatitis b is transmitted through sex or blood transfusion, why are infants getting immunized with this vaccine? would you immunize your infant with an HIV vaccine if there was one?

there are things about vaccines that doesn't make sense and unclear in many ways. do not just get immunized just because your doctor tells you to. anything that's completely helpful shouldn't be this sketchy.

Well said! This is great to see that more and more people are waking up from the myth of vaccines, we'd all been in a trance-like state believing the Official Story, but now we're starting to research and use our common sense. This is why TPTB will be taking the Internet down and putting it back up in another form, there will be laws about discussing these issues.

From my many years of research, eventually I discovered that we're being injected with disease, so as the Pharms can make a lot of extra money out of us

edit on 23-11-2011 by jameshawkings because: (no reason given)

Hahaha... wow...

You are getting injected with either a dead strain or weak strain of the disease.. NOT the disease itself. These weak/dead strains will cause your body to act producing anti-body like it just got the real disease(sensing these strain's presence) BUT you don't actually get sick, because the strains are weak/dead, some people might experience slight fever, but that's your body increasing temperature against the supposed "invasion" in order to increase the effectiveness of the immune system and slow down foreign cells. Once your body produces anti-body for the weak/dead strain, you body "memorizes them" and when you actually get attacked by the actual full blown virus/bacteria/disease you body is ready for it.

I do hope doctors give option to the people against basic Vaccines(including the DPPT) and put a red tag on their forhead.

edit on 11/23/2011 by luciddream because: DTTP > DPPT (diphtheria, tetanus, Polio and pertussis)

Sorry, but people DO get the thing they're vaccinated for sometimes. The flu shot PRODUCES the flu in a percentage of people every year. The literature says it's "a myth" but the facts show that it DOES happen. Not to most people - but yes, it does happen. In fact, ANY of the reactions people have from vaccines - and let's face it, there are MANY - minor or not SHOULD be telling us something - such as "this might not be the great solution we think it is." Hey, maybe it is. But for a technology barely 100 years old, I think it needs to be questioned a hell of a lot more.