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It's horrible to call war on Israel

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posted on Nov, 21 2011 @ 06:18 AM
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posted on Nov, 21 2011 @ 06:19 AM
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Originally posted by ken10
en.wikipedia.org...

What has this anything to do with Hitler being the father of Israel? This was a proposed solution to the "Jewish problem" that Germany had, which turned to be impossible and was succeeded by the infamous "Final solution".
From your own link:

After the invasion of Poland and the onset of World War II in 1939, the practical continuation of the Haavara agreement became impossible. In 1940, representatives of the underground Zionist group Lehi met with von Hentig to propose direct military cooperation with the Nazis for the continuation of the transfer of European Jews to Palestine. This proposal, however, did not produce results.



www.rense.com...

And this proves.. what exactly? An image of one side of a coin and then another image of supposed other side. Wow, I am now totally convinced that the holocaust was fabricated.

Hey look!


This is an obvious evidence that USA is the devil. Let's all go out and laugh at ignorant people who are blinded by facts now!
Oh wait, will we do that before or after we claim an anglo-saxon name and post links that will lead us to Muslim science boards?
(If you havn't figured it out, I am also pointing to the fact that a Rivka Cohen is a part of a Muslim science board. Which is funny)

And seriously.. Rense.com? David icke? Are you kidding me?
edit on 21-11-2011 by IsraeliGuy because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 21 2011 @ 06:27 AM
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Originally posted by JohnySeagull
reply to post by hmdphantom
 


i ask for proof and you change subject . pathetic.





the op has made clear accusations against members of ats. he believes members of the ATS community are calling for israel to be wiped off the plant because it is evil. i would just like him to back up these accusations with some examples. its very straightforward. you are backing up what he has stated , yet again you bring no evidence with your claims.


I just wanted to correct my direction.

So I just say once more :

I just want oppressions to stop and occupation be banned. Maybe you call it wiping Israel off the map while I call it , reject and get back the invaders.

I can't claim my opinion clearer than that.



posted on Nov, 21 2011 @ 06:31 AM
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So you revere the most evil man who existed in the 20th Century because he wiped out a people YOU consider evil? I bet you get invited to alot of parties



posted on Nov, 21 2011 @ 06:37 AM
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posted on Nov, 21 2011 @ 06:42 AM
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Originally posted by IsraeliGuy

Originally posted by JohnySeagull
i ask for proof and you change subject . pathetic.

You think that's pathetic? Just wait 'till he starts his drama about not having English as a first language and that this was just a misunderstanding.



Geeeeeeenius.


you figured out for yourself ? Our you just read my location.

You remind me of my childhood. When I was jealous for making friends. Just push yourself into the debate to get an ally on your side.

Remember, this old story of playing the oppressed side is too old , while Netanihahu wakes up every day and tells his secretary "I had a bad dream last night , so , lets attack Iran". I mean people all around the world see that Israel is bullying around. So , you can't play the oppressed role. Better find a new stance.



posted on Nov, 21 2011 @ 06:46 AM
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Originally posted by Hongkongphooey

Originally posted by LogiosHermes27
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NO.i have to go back to my room ,talk to you all later.



Oh no, did Mummy catch you using her computer? Off to your room and no supper for you


Pathetic

No,its just some guards are nice here and some are not...thats it.

www.nlm.nih.gov...



posted on Nov, 21 2011 @ 06:47 AM
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Originally posted by hmdphantom
Maybe Israel should have been legitimate state chosen by Palestinian people rather than voting in the UN by other countries.

The people in Israel, maybe they can come back to where they came from.
edit on 21/11/11 by hmdphantom because: (no reason given)


Umm....that IS where they came from.

Hello? Anyone?.....Anyone?....Bueller?



posted on Nov, 21 2011 @ 06:53 AM
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posted on Nov, 21 2011 @ 06:55 AM
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Originally posted by LogiosHermes27

Originally posted by Hongkongphooey

Originally posted by LogiosHermes27
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NO.i have to go back to my room ,talk to you all later.



Oh no, did Mummy catch you using her computer? Off to your room and no supper for you


Pathetic

No,its just some guards are nice here and some are not...thats it.

www.nlm.nih.gov...


Hysterical, lunetics asylum....well done



posted on Nov, 21 2011 @ 06:56 AM
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Originally posted by Riffrafter

Originally posted by hmdphantom
Maybe Israel should have been legitimate state chosen by Palestinian people rather than voting in the UN by other countries.

The people in Israel, maybe they can come back to where they came from.
edit on 21/11/11 by hmdphantom because: (no reason given)


Umm....that IS where they came from.



So , I think this is were Iranian came from ?

Hakhamaneshian

Look at the map. I think Iran should take all the lands back. Because it is were we came from.

Is that just and logical ?

edit on 21/11/11 by hmdphantom because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 21 2011 @ 06:58 AM
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posted on Nov, 21 2011 @ 07:07 AM
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Originally posted by IsraeliGuy

Originally posted by hmdphantom
Remember, this old story of playing the oppressed side is too old

Have I played the oppressed side anywhere in this thread? Uh, yeah, go do some reading then come back and tell me the answer.

Also, you must mean people all around Iran.


I didn't mean that you are playing the oppressed side . Zionists have been playing that role to justify taking other peoples land without their permission.




Funny, it almost seems as if you're playing the oppressed role in here. Am I wrong or is this constant whining by you supposed to tell me of something else?


Iran has been threatened for years to be bombed and invaded. I have proof. I don't lean on legends.

+ I am not crying . "US wants yo attack us , help us , we are oppressed ". I am brave enough to die in invasion.
edit on 21/11/11 by hmdphantom because: for manners.



posted on Nov, 21 2011 @ 07:12 AM
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Originally posted by Hongkongphooey
reply to post by LogiosHermes27
 


So you revere the most evil man who existed in the 20th Century because he wiped out a people YOU consider evil? I bet you get invited to alot of parties


you better be lucky adolf wasnt some of these other people,dont let the music scare you.



posted on Nov, 21 2011 @ 07:17 AM
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Originally posted by hmdphantom
I didn't mean that you are playing the oppressed side . Zionists have been playing that role to justify taking other peoples land without their permission.

If you're addressing the land of Israel, well, maybe your complaints should go to the Arabs who wouldn't welcome the tiny Jewish community that at first got here, waged violence towards it, and ended up losing. Naturally they also lost most of their territories by being a very weak aggressor.

We also returned the Sinai area after capturing it from Egypt in the war. Sinai is almost twice the size of Israel itself. Pretty good for evil Zionists, don't you think?

I think you don't quite understand what "playing the oppressed" side really is.
If anyone plays the oppressed side it's the neighboring Arabs. They use this as justifications for shooting rockets purposely to hit civilians, exploding in civilian buses and restaurants etc.


Iran has been threaten for years to be bombed and invaded. I have proof. I don't lean on legends.

So was Israel. Israel was a constant stage for terrorist activities in the last two decades. Do you want proof?


+ I am not crying . "US wants yo attack us , help us , we are oppressed ". I am brave enough to die in invasion.

Wow you are so brave
.. If an attack is going to happen it does not mean anything bad will happen to you. An attack on Iran will be an attack on it's nuclear reactors, not on your neighborhood.
Nobody is planning to invade Iran.



posted on Nov, 21 2011 @ 07:31 AM
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So was Israel. Israel was a constant stage for terrorist activities in the last two decades. Do you want proof?


I think you know that all the nations in ME are terrorists in the eyes Israel. Maybe it was better if US has given some land to those people.

But they didn't , because the Zionists need that particular piece of land.



If an attack is going to happen it does not mean anything bad will happen to you. An attack on Iran will be an attack on it's nuclear reactors, not on your neighborhood.


Maybe , I am an engineer in one of those facilities .



They use this as justifications for shooting rockets purposely to hit civilians, exploding in civilian buses and restaurants etc.


US could give you some land and all the problems would have been solved. + As I enter a place and I see that people are not welcoming me , I will not choose to stay there , neither it doesn't justify attacking those people.



well, maybe your complaints should go to the Arabs who wouldn't welcome the tiny Jewish community that at first got here, waged violence towards it, and ended up losing. Naturally they also lost most of their territories by being a very weak aggressor.


Maybe the Arabs knew , those people are going to stay. As they came by force and stayed.

Once again , how are 25000 Jews are living peacefully in Iran ?



posted on Nov, 21 2011 @ 07:34 AM
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Originally posted by IsraeliGuy

Originally posted by ken10
en.wikipedia.org...

What has this anything to do with Hitler being the father of Israel? This was a proposed solution to the "Jewish problem" that Germany had, which turned to be impossible and was succeeded by the infamous "Final solution".
From your own link:

After the invasion of Poland and the onset of World War II in 1939, the practical continuation of the Haavara agreement became impossible. In 1940, representatives of the underground Zionist group Lehi met with von Hentig to propose direct military cooperation with the Nazis for the continuation of the transfer of European Jews to Palestine. This proposal, however, did not produce results.



www.rense.com...

And this proves.. what exactly? An image of one side of a coin and then another image of supposed other side. Wow, I am now totally convinced that the holocaust was fabricated.

Hey look!


This is an obvious evidence that USA is the devil. Let's all go out and laugh at ignorant people who are blinded by facts now!
Oh wait, will we do that before or after we claim an anglo-saxon name and post links that will lead us to Muslim science boards?
(If you havn't figured it out, I am also pointing to the fact that a Rivka Cohen is a part of a Muslim science board. Which is funny)

And seriously.. Rense.com? David icke? Are you kidding me?
edit on 21-11-2011 by IsraeliGuy because: (no reason given)


But at the time of the transfer agreement, The British were preventing many jews from entering Palestine. So how do you explain that ???

And why deflect from facts by attacking sources.......Do you have an agenda to push ?



posted on Nov, 21 2011 @ 07:39 AM
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Originally posted by Riffrafter

Originally posted by hmdphantom
Maybe Israel should have been legitimate state chosen by Palestinian people rather than voting in the UN by other countries.

The people in Israel, maybe they can come back to where they came from.
edit on 21/11/11 by hmdphantom because: (no reason given)


Umm....that IS where they came from.

Hello? Anyone?.....Anyone?....Bueller?



Well not according to Shlomo Sand...

electronicintifada.net...



posted on Nov, 21 2011 @ 07:41 AM
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Originally posted by hmdphantom
I think you know that all the nations in ME are terrorists in the eyes Israel. Maybe it was better if US has given some land to those people.
But they didn't , because the Zionists need that particular piece of land.

100% Pointless remark. Way to go.
Now, if you have got anything to answer to my point you quoted, which was that Israel was a stage for terrorist activities for the last two decades, please proceed.

The Israelis got that piece of land in according with the UN, which gathered the nations of the world in a vote, and the vote ended up in a 'YES'.
Your fellow Arabs didn't like that, they tried to evict us by force, failed, and had their lands naturally conquered from them.


Maybe , I am an engineer in one of those facilities .

If you were an engineer in one of these facilities you wouldn't speak about it online. If you really are.. well.. you're a shameful nuclear engineer.
But yeah I see your point, and in this case, those engineers in the facilities sure do think of the possible outcome that they could lose their lives by working there. It's their choice, and I'm sure they are being paid very well for these hazards.

As you probably have witnessed, several engineers have already lost their lives already. Not because of an Israeli attack, but because they couldn't match a warhead to a missile.


US could give you some land and all the problems would have been solved. + As I enter a place and I see that people are not welcoming me , I will not choose to stay there , neither it doesn't justify attacking those people.

You are purposely mixing up the points. We did not attack anyone as guests - as guests, we were attacked. The Israeli people were granted the possibility of living in Israel by Britain who were the landlords at the time, yet the current residents (mind you, they didn't live there all the time) were not as welcoming. History was made and the tables have turned. We are now the residents and the Arabs are guests.

You wanna blame anyone? Blame the Arabs for either being too weak in forcing us out, or being too stupid for not trying to live with us when we were a tiny dot in their map.


Maybe the Arabs knew , those people are going to stay. As they came by force and stayed.

Came by force? lol.


Once again , how are 25000 Jews are living peacefully in Iran ?

Is this suppose to surprise me? How are 1 million Arabs living peacefully in Israel? How is it that there are 3 Arabs working at the same workplace I am and getting the same pay as me? Is this a shock to you?

But correct me if I'm wrong, Isn't a vast majority of the 25K Jews in Iran are Neturei Karta occultists? You know, the ones that believe that no Jew is allowed in Israel untill "the Messiah will come"?
If that is true, it is even less surprising how they are living peacefully in Iran.

Should I start asking questions about the people who refuse to go by Islamic law in Iran only to be executed? Or are we going to start answering each other in an on-topic manner? I can do perfectly fine both ways.
edit on 21-11-2011 by IsraeliGuy because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 21 2011 @ 07:47 AM
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Originally posted by ken10
But at the time of the transfer agreement, The British were preventing many jews from entering Palestine. So how do you explain that ???

At that time the transfer looked unreal.. Not a possible solution to anything. The fact that it was proposed by the other side of the fence didn't really contribute to it any more. After the horrors of WW2 it appeared vital for the Jewish community to have a state they could reside in peace, so that such wrongdoings would not occur once again.
Jesus christ man.. 3rd grade history lessons...


And why deflect from facts by attacking sources.......Do you have an agenda to push ?

These are not facts as I have shown you, they were nothing more but images of two sides of a supposedly one coin, that don't say much. Any proof this coin is actually real? Any proof this coin was not home made? Any evidence where was it originated from? None.

If anyone has got an agenda to push, it's the people who show stupid images of coins and link them with the fact that Zionists are a part of the Holocaust without any solid background.

And while we're on the subject of pushing agendas, you may want to investigate alittle on David Icke, who he really is and what is his agenda. I recommend reading about his theories on UFOlogy.
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