BREAKING: NYPD break up "Terrorist Act" Press conference 7:30 pm EST-

reply to post by ChrisF231

Hispanic Muslim? Is this common?

I would say that it is as common as Arab Catholics.

en.wikipedia.org...

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This conference brings more questions than answers. What else is new.

reply to post by Dagar


Don't be silly Dagar. This would be TOO obvious. :p

But on a serious note, there's no way in hell that I would give up my right to speak my mind and demonstrate for something I believe in because the NYPD did their job. Thats just crazy.

Now if the NYPD failed at stopping a terrorist act, I might give a second thought about being in a large crowd in NYC, because the police can't do a good job of keeping me safe.
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I just saw a demonstration on CNN of a "simulated device" and what it could've done if the suspect got around to making a bomb.. Why do I need to see that? Are they trying to instill fear? I take back calling you silly Dagar, Bloomberg and the NYPD could obviously care less about being obvious.

reply to post by jude11

Ok, so here comes even more laws, surveillance, loss of freedoms, privacy etc. Those street lamps listening in on private conversations, cameras following your every move, Drones flying overhead, TSA at every street corner, public functions, schools etc.

Well clearly they took sufficient measures to stop the terrorists this time. There's no reason to implement even more security and waste even more money when their current methods are working.

reply to post by AllUrChips


Came across the MSM news here in Australia.....and I'm supposed to take it as gospel?

If any mug knows something about Arab terrorism, terrorists don't act alone, have NEVER acted alone and are ALWAYS belonging to some group or organisation.

Does the White House think we are all stupid?

The news is heading right into a "The boy who cried wolf" situation. They just keep lying and completely over exaggerating situations (not sure if they are over exaggerating this time). Then one day something important that needs to get out to the public will seem like normal news over excitement and we will not believe them. It's getting ridiculous. Whatever happened to an unbiased, truthful press?

How come Barack Obam, Hillary, and Ivo have not been tried and executed for treason? Obama knew this al qaeda fighters had just come from Iraq where they were killing our soldiers there.

Made up BS about an alleged al qeada sympathizer with a supposed pipe bomb that no one ever saw or took a media picture of?

Really?

Really?

Are all of the people here and the rest of the world that stupid?

Treason is treason.

Sounds like a publicity stunt to me.Bloomberg's handlers are gonna try and play this up and attempt to use it against OWS in someway.

Oh Boy,

New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg described the suspect as an "al Qaeda sympathizer," though he is not believed to have ever worked with or received training from anyone in that terrorist organization. "There is no evidence he worked with anyone else," Bloomberg said. "He appears to be ... a lone wolf."

source edition.cnn.com...
This is a perfect example of doublespeak:

- he is AlQaida (boo: be afraid of large masses of organized terrorists)
- he appears to be a lone wolf ( boo, be afraid of very unpredictable loners which are difficult to detect)

Bloomie: It's either or. Either you are part of an organisation OR you'r a lone wolf.
There is no such a thing as a "lone wolf pack".

Another guy who was under "surveillance" and had no weapons nor explosive material...

Add;

A person who was briefed on the discussions between the Police Department and Justice Department, however, said that the Federal Bureau of Investigation had declined to become involved with the case against Mr. Pimentel because of issues the F.B.I. had with it. The person, who insisted on anonymity, declined to elaborate on what those issues were.

from www.nytimes.com... /11/21/nyregion/jose-pimentel-is-charged-in-new-york-city-bomb-plot.html?_r=1&pagewanted=2 (emphasis mine)

What the heck does that mean ? Same as when FBI said they had no evidence of Osama being behind 9/11 ?

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reply to post by jude11

Ok, so here comes even more laws, surveillance, loss of freedoms, privacy etc. Those street lamps listening in on private conversations, cameras following your every move, Drones flying overhead, TSA at every street corner, public functions, schools etc.

Here is the oppression on American people to justify oppression on other nations of the world.

So far, for me, every article I've read about this online the comments section is full of people saying this is a false-flag, psyop, Pimentel must have a CIA/FBI handler, etc.

Disconcerting story for many reasons but knowing that so many people are hesitant to believe the gov'ment bolshevik is refreshing. Soon everyone who reads their news online will at least have been exposed to the idea that the USG has the means and motivation to hatch up these plots and then "discover" and "prevent" them. The movement toward truth and transparency is reaching critical mass.

How long can they fool us once we all realized that is their aim?

I think there is something wrong with Jose Pimentel. Who is arrested for terrorism, understands the potential consequences, yet still has a #### eating grin in court? I don't think this guy truly realizes his situation.

Anyway, from this article at Mail Online, just so you can all sleep easier tonight.

TERROR IN THE BIG APPLE: RECENT PLOTS FOILED IN NEW YORK CITY

March 2003: Lyman Faris was taken into custody after police learned he was plotting to destroy New York’s iconic Brooklyn Bridge.

August 2004: Dhiren Barot was arrested in the U.K. for his role in several terror plots in the U.S., including one that targeted the New York Stock Exchange.

August 2004: Shahawar Matin Siraj was one of several suspects who plotted to place a bomb in the Herald Square subway station in midtown Manhattan.

July 2006: Assem Hammoud was arrested and accused of conspiring with foreign militants to destroy train tunnels connecting New York City with New Jersey.

June 2007: Authorities uncovered a plot by four men to blow up jet fuel supply tanks at John F. Kennedy International Airport. The ringleader of the gang was Russell Defreitas, an ex-JFK employee.

May 2009: James Cromitie, David Williams, Onta Williams, and Laguerre Payen were arrested in a plot to blow up synagogues in New York City, as well as trying to buy missiles to shoot down planes.

September 2009: Coffee cart operator Najibullah Zazi was arrested in an elaborate plot to attack the New York City subway system in a way similar to the London Underground attacks.

May 2010: Naturalized U.S. citizen Faisal Shahzad tried to detonate an explosives-laden Jeep he parked in Times Square. Shahzad was later arrested at JFK Airport while trying to flee to Dubai.

May 2011: Ahmed Ferhani of Algeria and Muhammad Mamdouh of Morocco were picked up by the NYPD after trying to buy assorted ammunition to attack a New York City synagogue.

November 2011: Jose Pimentel is arrested in his New York City apartment in an attempted terror plot targeting the NYPD, government officials and U.S. troops returning from the Middle East.

Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk...

reply to post by AllUrChips


Well.... The NYPD needs some good PR spin after their heavy handed tactics in OWS. This should get the brainless dullards back on side!

IRM

Could this be the real reason behind the terror alert?

www.occupynewyorkstate.org...

A snippet from the site...

Today, a New York State Senator and others held a press conference from Zuccotti Park condemning the Bloomberg administration for using the NYPD to violate the rights of the protesters in the park. Their language was certain, direct, and damning of Bloomberg and the actions of the NYPD over the course of the OWS occupation of Zuccotti Park. "Never again, in New York City," he said, while speaking of the police brutality, the illegal eviction from the park, the arrest of reporters and other efforts to disallow the press to witness and report on the assaults on the protesters 1st and 4th amendment rights - not to mention the assaults on their physical bodies. Right now, Bloomberg has Police Commissioner Ray Kelly about to give an emergency press conference on the topic of "terror".

This is an obvious attempt to bury the story that could help bury Bloomberg. His assault on the civil liberties of the people of New York City has gotten the attention of New York State officials and they are calling him out. This press conference of Bloomberg's is not fooling anyone.

I wonder how much truth there is to this?... Was it a story used to distract the MSM from reporting on a damning event (for the Mayor and NYPD)?

What do you guys think?

reply to post by Dagar


Sounds plausible.

"Terror" is the magic word, it'll grab the attention of the mindless, hypnotized sheep immediately.

Originally posted by Hellas
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Man Is Said to Be Arrested in Bid to Kill Government Workers With Bomb
By JOSEPH GOLDSTEIN
The authorities have arrested a man who law enforcement officials believe was planning to build and detonate a bomb in New York with government workers as the target, a person briefed on the case said on Sunday.

Planning is the key word. Thats very handy as you can say that about anyone for anything . This vague planning business .

Is there proof of a plan

“Why of course the people don’t want war … But after all it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship … Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.”

Hermann Göring

“The easiest way to gain control of a population is to carry out acts of terror. The public will clamor for such laws if their personal security is threatened”

Josef Stalin

“Terrorism is the best political weapon for nothing drives people harder than a fear of sudden death”

Adolf....

If you haven't noticed.....The US Government has taken a page straight out of NAZI Germany And Russia on how to control it's population. This alone should scare the s... out of you.