World Governments Allow Evil Aliens To Capture Millions Of People In Exchange For Secret Technology

reply to post by charlieorange

If extraterrestrials wanted to destroy us, they would have done it by now. What is more compelling is that an advanced race will not allow us to destroy Earth past the point of no return. Perhaps the clock is running. Perhaps if people accepted the truth about our true origins as a species, they would engage us directly. I believe that is what they want.

A star for you, charlieorange. I believe that also. If ET wanted to either enslave us, or destroy us, they easily could have, in biblical times, before we got F-16s and Nukes. As for letting humankind destroy this fine water planet, I don't believe they will let that happen, but then they, like some of us, know that everything, and I mean EVERYTHING runs in a cycle of life and death and life again.
Earth is like the people on Her, she too must "die" (metaphoric, not psychical) before being reborn as a new world. Even the Bible makes reference to this...

“For behold, I create new heavens and a new earth, and the former things shall not be remembered or come into mind."
(Isaiah 65:17)

One fine day humankind will wake up on a new Home, and they will go about evolving with hardly a thought of former things, much like today. A long period will go by, and it will be seen if humankind takes the path of war and killing again. Everytime so far when humankind builds up to a high technology, they quickly go about destroying themselves, and Earth along with them. This has happened before, at least 3 times, perhaps 4 times. The Legends of Lemuria/Mu, and Atlantis are reference to this. All Myths have origins in Factual events.

ET seeded humankind here, and they are watching us, wanting to see if we evolve above the mistakes that they, the ET made in their own evolution. We are a very large family, and it is time we all come to realize that. Time is not linear, it is cyclic.

Originally posted by blocula
Mainstream science and state funded archeology must strictly adhere to pre-arranged agendas and biased guidelines that will only admit to and allow the release of evidence that happens to agree with whatever imposed belief structure people find themselves born into and forced to live with.Any evidence or testimony that leads people astray from enforced dogma,that opens their eyes and minds far enough for them to realize the existence of other possible realities and truths,will be quickly discarded,purposefully ridiculed and ignored,ruthlessly cast aside and left to wither within the ever growing darkness of fear and denial...

If you dared to think and say that the earth was round,when they told everyone it was flat,if you dared to think and say the sun was the center of creation,when they told everyone it was the earth,you would be shunned, demonized and heckled out of town,or thrown into prison,or burned at the stake.Severe repercussions and evil punishments designed and sanctioned,orchestrated and imposed by iron fisted authorities upon those seeking the truth...

This is an exceptionally silly post. It was the "mainstream science" as we know it now, that discovered that the Earth was a sphere, whereas the consensus was that it was flat. It was science that demonstrated that the Solar System has planets orbiting around the Sun. Science was opposed and suppressed by a bunch of ignorant hacks and religious zealots. Little has changed.

reply to post by buddhasystem
No its not silly at all,it took hundreds of years for the mainstream to accept the earth as being round and along the way to that acceptance,many,many people were ridiculed and killed for thinking and saying it was round when the overwhelmingly vast majority were told to think and to say it was flat...

All truths follow the same course...First they are ridiculed,then they are violently opposed and then they are accpeted as being self evident...

Hi Biocula,


You're quite right that any number of scientists are forced to withhold many discoveries they make from publication when they don't fit the straight-jacket that the academic community is forced to live in. They call it "Publish or Perish" and this means that if your "science" isn't orthodox and conform to their imposed criteria you shall find yourself banished from publications by what they call the "peer review process" which is little else than watered down inquisition to determine if you are "orthodox". I have known many researchers who were turned down simply for a small component in their valid work which didn't fit the Top Down imposed paradigm dictate. I even helped some rewrite their papers, purging any trace of non conformity for them to succeed in getting them published. Many researchers in the academic community have been forced to hide away what they have discovered and know to be true, only disclosing this to their closes friends and dearest colleagues, taking great risks in so doing given the dean system controlled by their hierarchs and designed like an academic secret police with permanent black listing at the end of the line. This is the system of alleged science which ATS member Buddha System is defending, he is apparently an Apologist for the SYSTEM. That he likes it is his affair, but what the heck is he doing here? Attempting to Derail your Thread?


Here is more from the source quoted earlier and which might give some background to what is happening regarding the very dark and ominous Alien Threat. That some believe that Aliens are Paternalistic benevolent beings bent upon our spiritual development, some might be. However I venture to state from a mountain of testimonial evidence that this cannot be said of either the Insectoid (Gray's, Ant-like and Mantis) or Reptoid (dinosaur-like Draco Reptilians). Of the former there are countless accounts of abduction and experimentation and of the latter I can personally vouch that their intentions towards us are not what we would call "honorable".

"Since our weapons were literally useless against the aliens, Majesty Twelve decided to continue friendly diplomatic relations UNTIL SUCH A TIME AS WE WERE ABLE TO DEVELOP A TECHNOLOGY WHICH WOULD ENABLE US TO CHALLENGE THEM ON A MILITARY BASES. Overtures would have to be made to the Soviet Union and other nations to join forces for the survival of humanity. In the meantime PLANS WERE DEVELOPED TO RESEARCH AND CONSTRUCT TWO WEAPONS SYSTEMS USING CONVENTIONAL AND NUCLEAR TECHNOLOGY, WHICH WOULD HOPEFULLY BRING US TO PARITY."

"The results of the research were Projects JOSHUA and EXCALIBUR. JOSHUA was a weapon captured from the Germans which was capable of shattering 4-inch-thick armor plate at a range of two miles. It used aimed, low-frequency sound waves, and it was believed that this weapon would be effective against the alien craft and beam weapons. EXCALIBUR was a weapon carried by a missile not to rise above 30,000 feet above ground level (AGL), not to deviate from designated target more than 50 meters, able to... penetrate '1,000 METERS OF TUFA, HARD-PACKED SOIL SUCH AS THAT FOUND IN NEW MEXICO,' carry a one-megaton warhead, and intended for use in destroying the aliens in their underground bases..."

Covenent with Death

Note that this does correspond with the testing of Bunker Buster missiles in Afghanistan and in Iraq. There were even miniature Nuclear bombs set off in Baghdad and it could very well be that it was a war provoked and undertaken either to field test new weaponry designed to counter underground alien bases, or possibly it was a war waged against underground Alien Bases which laid directly beneath Saddam Hussein's palaces? I always wondered why such extreme pounding of so many huge bunker buster missiles were required to kill one man?


A very expensive attempt to assassinate a third world dictator?

Or an attack on Baghdad's Underground Alien Bases?

Was this the Alien's storage for human blood sausage?

While the above theory is possibly expounded and marginally confirmed by Reagan's repeated allusions to humanity being threatened by "another species" he does mention it is "from outer space" - although he did say that all nations might unite agreeing that "we would forget all our little local differences and we would find out that we are all human beings, here on this Earth together". That last part of his statement might in fact be a thinly disguised call for the removal from Earth of predatory Alien species?





Getsmart

reply to post by Getsmart
Saddam certainly had no problem killing massive amounts of innocent people,like all world leaders and dictators do,stalin,hitler,mao and yes even roosevelt and churchill,among many others...

But i think those people were and are being ritualistically sacrificed to demonic aliens.Just like the mayans and aztecs and others performed countless blood sacrifices to their gods,ripping out the beating hearts of victims, millions of people since then,on a much more massive and sinister scale,have had their lives torn asunder,their hearts and their souls ripped out of their bodies through war and genocide and abductions and they are sacrificial victims delivered to the dark alien overlords of humanity...

Aliens not from outer space,but from earth,the dominant species who evolved here long before we arrived on the evolutionary scene and the constant mantras we hear and read of aliens coming here from outer space is a grand deception agenda,to keep the sheeple thinking and looking in the wrong direction...

Its so painfully obvious to me whats really happening to us and it has been for a very long time.Why war, genocide and people vanishing never stops and its so painfully obvious to me what those terrible evil things are actually for...

They carry on in a continuous living nightmare of perpetual death and destruction down through the ages and never cease,because they are orchestrated by super intelligent evil beings in conjunction with the royal bloodline elites,our lying,back stabbing,manipulating world leaders and their beautiful families and friends.Who constantly ensure their own well being,wealth,pleasure and secret high tech,in exchange for delivering a never ending flow of human livestock who eventually end up within the hellish nether regions deep below us,the subterranean realms inhabited by entire civilizations of reptilians and insectoids,who rule and control their geneticly manipulated and pheromone controlled humans who are allowed to breed upon the surface of earth...

We are constantly told to think and brainwashed into believing that we are the dominant species upon a planet we call earth,a planet that we alone rule and control and we are not and we have been lied to on a horribly massive scale...

Hi blocula,


Regarding the UFO phenomenon, my impression is that the Underground Aliens had made some sort of long term SHARECROPPING agreement with our governing Elites who, for many centuries, have been FARMING HUMANS for them on the SURFACE. Thus the Royals and their accessory Elite Associates we today call the ILLUMINATI were left much to their own devices, free to rule over their Slaves, as long as they paid TRIBUTE to the Farm's Owners in the form of harvesting for them the bodies and souls of the sacrificed masses?


More recently, after we had gained access to sufficiently threatening weapons in the form of a Nuclear Capability which could pulverize them in their underground LAIR - traditionally referred to as HELL - they came more frequently to the surface to directly intervene in Human affairs. This might explain the wave of UFO sightings immediately after WWII which hasn't diminished much since? This could also better explain the IMPLANTS and the Memory Scans of Humans, done extensively during abductions, probably in order to more closely monitor our species and more directly control us? This might also be the reason for the current NWO move towards a Single World Government POLICE STATE to turn a relatively free "hands-off" farm exploitation of their HUMAN LIVESTOCK into a scientifically designed and technologically engineered advanced farming system?


Getsmart

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Hi Getsmart,your a reservoir of fascinating ideas and theories,you have a very intelligent way of stating them.I do my best trying to accurately describe and relate what i think and feel.I find thinking and wondering about things,like this threads headline,a helluva lot more interesting,a helluva lot more fascinating and more mind and eye opening than killing time and brain cells thinking about fabricated movie stars...Its like pulling my head out of a swamp and plunging it into crystal clear water...

I remember reading when i was around twenty years old,about a case involving a woman who said she was abducted throughout her whole life.I think her name is or was betty andreason,or something like that and she said that one time,among many encounters,the aliens took her onboard a chrome saucer that ascended into the sky and then shortly after plunged into the ocean and downward right through the ground at the bottom!...

She ended up in an under ground hanger within a subterranean city! There she was shown,among other fantastic things,a long hallway with dioramas on either side,she called it a museum of earths history and within these dioramas were captured humans,men and women from different periods in human history,who were suspended within these dioramas! < Think about that!

In one she saw a cave man in the act of throwing a spear,at the alien who was abducting him! In another was a roman centurion suspended in the act of swinging a sword! In another was an obviously taken by surprise woman wearing a victorian dress! In another was a soldier from world war one and so on and so on...Wow! and think about all the petty things we worry about and fight about all our short and temporary lives...Totally perplexing and mindblowing!

Another thing that betty said the aliens had telepathically told her once when she was a little girl,after they materialized through her bedroom wall was "little one,we will tell you something in a way you will be able to understand what we mean" "think of time as the peanut butter sandwiches you love so much" "humans are trapped in the slow moving one way peanut butter of time" "we have found a way to move up into the free flowing jelly of time" "we are able to move forwards and backwards to whenever and wherever we want"

Originally posted by blocula

I remember reading when i was around twenty years old,about a case involving a woman who said she was abducted throughout her whole life.I think her name is or was betty andreason,or something like that and she said that one time,among many encounters,the aliens took her onboard a chrome saucer that ascended into the sky and then shortly after plunged into the ocean and downward right through the ground at the bottom!...

Hi blocula,


This is yet one other account alluding to the likelihood of in the least Underground or Undersea Alien Bases and it might also allude to them as "Landing Ports" for their spaceships leading to the HOLLOW EARTH ?

Originally posted by blocula

She ended up in an under ground hanger within a subterranean city! There she was shown,among other fantastic things,a long hallway with dioramas on either side,she called it a museum of earths history and within these dioramas were captured humans,men and women from different periods in human history,who were suspended within these dioramas! < Think about that!

In one she saw a cave man in the act of throwing a spear,at the alien who was abducting him! In another was a roman centurion suspended in the act of swinging a sword! In another was an obviously taken by surprise woman wearing a victorian dress! In another was a soldier from world war one and so on and so on...Wow! and think about all the petty things we worry about and fight about all our short and temporary lives...Totally perplexing and mindblowing!

Unusually enough I don't really need to think much about that to understand what this implies. Namely that we as individuals mean little more to such Aliens than Soil Samples would mean to us. That people might be abducted and "frozen" in suspended animation is not of our technology but apparently might be of theirs? What an appealing little history lesson, with sample exhibits plucked thought time travel abductions - quaint and charming pedagogical methods indeed.

Originally posted by blocula

Another thing that betty said the aliens had telepathically told her once when she was a little girl,after they materialized through her bedroom wall was "little one,we will tell you something in a way you will be able to understand what we mean" "think of time as the peanut butter sandwiches you love so much" "humans are trapped in the slow moving one way peanut butter of time" "we have found a way to move up into the free flowing jelly of time" "we are able to move forwards and backwards to whenever and wherever we want"

This apparently is a childish explanation referring to a dietary practice found only in one part of the world, the USA. Elsewhere sandwiches are not usual fare, and peanut butter isn't on the list of customary foods. Regardless of why they sourced her own reference system for their explanations, that they are able to "liquefy time" from its usual muddy sludge and thus slip though its meanders to visit the past and future is seemingly what they wished to convey to her. Why choose a young girl for such earth shattering confidential revelations? Why even tell her at all? And if they can so easily time travel why abduct specimens when the can visit any period they wish for whatever purposes? Is time travel resource intensive or otherwise inordinately expensive for them? And why establish contact with individuals at an age where they carry little if any credibility respective to human society at large?


GS

reply to post by Getsmart
Some or most of these abductions happened in Mass.not too far from where i live in Mass.

Heres a good link that explains some of her lifelong abductions,it takes a minute to load > phantomsandmonsters.wetpaint.com...

From above link > "Time is an illusion and that reports of synchronicity,ghosts,out of the body experiences,near death experiences,ufos, precognition,telepathy and other extrasensory experiences are all individual expressions of one intelligent-like meta-phenomenon"


Heres an even better link > www.bibliotecapleyades.net...

From above link > "All the earlier events, including her first experience of the One, took place in mysterious locations which seemed to be underground, or else on or near the surface of the earth.This was the domain of the Elders, who apparently commanded the Grays in a symbiotic relationship"

Who are the Elders?...Time travelers?...Long ago intelligently advanced humans?...Demons in disguise?

Heres a line from the Led Zeppelin song Kashmir > "To sit with elders of the gentle race,this world has seldom seen.They talk of days for which they sit and wait and all will be revealed"


Elders...Hmmmmm?

reply to post by blocula


Most amazing stuff I have ever read.

Really.

reply to post by blocula


I don't have any trouble believing the stats.

I am curious . . . what are the stats as broken down by belief systems, religion and degree of authenticity of the religious convictions and practices in terms of intrinsic vs extrinsic.

Would Guy Malone's contention apply, or not? i.e. that no authentic Christians are ever abducted by UFO's. That doesn't deal with the other means, however.

www.AlienResistance.org...

www.ANCIENTofDAYS.net...

Originally posted by blocula

Heres an even better link > www.bibliotecapleyades.net...

From above link > "All the earlier events, including her first experience of the One, took place in mysterious locations which seemed to be underground, or else on or near the surface of the earth.This was the domain of the Elders, who apparently commanded the Grays in a symbiotic relationship"

Who are the Elders?...Time travelers?...Long ago intelligently advanced humans?...Demons in disguise?

Heres a line from the Led Zeppelin song Kashmir > "To sit with elders of the gentle race,this world has seldom seen.They talk of days for which they sit and wait and all will be revealed"

Elders...Hmmmmm?

Hi blocula,


Her story in the above link reminds me of the "Blissing" given to the Reptoids by their Queen in the Mothership... Yes, I am referring to the remake of the TV Series "V". Love, even if heartfelt and fulfilling, isn't necessarily what it seems to be. It could even beTHE ULTIMATE MIND CONTROL which might be hereby called HEART CONTROL ?


Are these Grays thought by some to be the Angels taking abductees into the Heavens? I'm glad I wasn't on that trip. Also, she was apparently quite devout religiously and it seems to have possibly made her quite vulnerable to some sort of spiritual revelation. I find it quite disturbing that she wasn't able to report on what she experienced with "The One" who whines that some reject him. Quite the godly behavior, wouldn't you say? Only those who know the Love of the One have anything, the others haven nothing. Very much what religion is all about: believe and be saved, or remain skeptical and be forever lost.


It is not because I am not a believer that I am in any position to certify that any of this is not true. For all I know this could indeed be our genuine god and creator and there could be something real and founded to the love that is mentioned. But by the same token I cannot assert that any of this is factual. While I am inclined to believe in the good faith of the person reporting the "incident" I cannot vouch as much for the good faith of the ENTITIES which she encountered and to whom she entrusted her fate and experience. I could very well be a deceitful ploy, and the mention of "The Light" might remind one of Lucifer, the Light Bearer, who seeks adepts?


Also there have been mention of "The Elders" by many civilizations and religions, the latest one I got wind of comes from a recent source stating in the past months that there is a group of them running China from behind the scenes, and this for many centuries.


David Wilcox talking about Chinese Elders repossessing the USA?


Factual or a complete fabrication, the truth of the matter probably lies somewhere in between. In any case it goes to show that spirituality and Aliens don't mix very well, and unfortunately there might be a great deal of prior interaction between these two realms. To what extent the world's religions have as a basis visitations by extraterrestrial beings is a logical concern. And if instead of calling them extraterrestrials and call them ultradimensional entities, then we are smack in the middle of the stuff religion is made of... FWIW


GS

reply to post by Getsmart
I was wondering if she,betty andreason,wanted to believe her alien abductors were angelic beings with holy intentions,only because she was so religious herself? Or perhaps that was the thought and the image of themselves that they projected into her mind,because thats what they wanted her to believe they were? When in reality,she may have represented nothing more than ideal genetic material of a type the aliens were looking for and found in her?


Heres a link to whats probably the best site out there that shows ufo's and flying saucers within many old world paintings...

Pay close attention to...

"The Annunciation"-1486

"The Crucifixion"-1350

"The Glorification Of The Eucharist"-1600 < What?!?! is in that painting?!?! Its a modern era satellite! Is it not?

lithiumdreamer.tripod.com...

Hi BO XIAN,


From what I gather many Christians were abducted and found that using Jesus' name in vain happened to be in vain. They still got experimented upon and even implanted despite their leap of faith. This doesn't make Christianity any less worthwhile, only it shows that simply invoking a name won't protect the innocent against Aliens.


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Yes blocula, I am altogether too familiar with those older pictural renditions of UFOs in ancient art and note that the artists of the Renaissance held many secrets and even were at times members of occult groups. For example, Poussin who is best known in Conspiracy forums for his painting of the Shepherds of Arcadia which illustrated the alleged tomb of Jesus or Mary Magdalene was himself a member of occult societies prior to his early trip to Rome.


Once there he went into the service of an eminent Cardinal, and was later visited by the brother of the Finance Minister of Louis XIV, he wrote him what he had learned. This very letter led to the downfall of Nicolas Fouquet and to his death sentence commuted into life imprisonment. It is thought that he inspired the Alexandre Dumas book "The Iron Mask". What the letter revealed was never made public. We can assume that the Roman Catholic Church has known about Aliens for eons, and they keep concealed in the Vatican library many ancient works which we are prevented from discovering. The Vatican also owns many observatories with cutting edge telescopes and is quite active in space research.


Regarding human complicities in the abduction of people in exchange for technology, here is the classic reference of Dulce, New Mexico where there is said to be an underground base under the Archuleta Mesa, a hilly area northeast of the small town. When I visited, aside from the pristine housing of the locals which was very different from the rundown shacks of neighboring villages, and the ritzy supermarket unusual for an Indian Trading Post, all I noted was some unusual heavy construction equipment alongside the small eastbound road. It is quite creepy if it is indeed true that the Draco Reptilians such as the dreadful one I witnessed are running the show there.


Draco Reptilian Monsters experimenting on Captive Humans!

I do not call them "Monsters" lightly, as I only do so having witnessed one myself first hand. These things are dreadful enough to have inspired the myths, legends and scriptures describing the Devil. They are extremely Evil, meaning that they lack anything even remotely Human, such as compassion or even a trace amount of pity. We are worthless to them other than as a utility, a Human Resource... one wonders if it isn't one of their allies who coined that term? FWIW


GS

This video purports to be about an underground rept base in Cairo. Thought you might be interested.

Originally posted by 1AnunnakiBastard
reply to post by blocula

 

The first "official meeting" supposedly occurred in 1954, at Edwards Air Force base.

exopolitics.org...

And tnks by the link.

Just read the link........

Lee78,


Just because you find something amusing doesn't mean that others might interpret it differently. I enter churches which I visit out of architectural interest but don't scoff at those who are praying a divinity which evades my knowledge. I would assume that you might cut other ATS members some slack for considering possibilities which are beyond your grasp. More than a few Ufologists are convinced that the US Government has engaged in deals with Aliens for technology for many decades. This might even be a far longer relationship than we envisage, given that UFOs have appeared in artwork throughout the past centuries. It is indeed possible that former rulers in more ancient times struck their own deals with said entities?


Someotherguy,


Thanks for that video which brings forth a second hand account of what is said to have been a censored discovery. This rejoins what is noted by many Egyptologists, that Dr. Zahi Hawass, Minister of State for Antiquities, has blocked any digs near the Pyramids possibly to prevent similar encroachments? Quite a few other locations are said to have revealed similar findings, with the usual response of them being sealed off by the authorities - presumably for public safety and definitely to avoid disclosure. I only regret that we have no better description than that they have tails and walk on their hind legs. FWIW


GS

reply to post by Getsmart
Something i've been meaning to ask you,have you had "any other" encounters or bizzare experiences? Perhaps some that have been forgotten from when you were a child?...I myself have encountered,or have been shown? so many types of paranormal encounters ever since i can remember,that i am more of less,without a choice,forced to be aware of many strange and hushed up realities...

so, there are not 7billion people on this planet after all ?
are someone hiding the real number from us?