At Least 9 Ships Near BP's Macondo Well (yes...THAT Well)

I hate BP and i HATE to say this , but we need the oil sucked out of there so that no more seeps into the ocean around there. We should suck it dry so that it cannot do anymore harm to the ocean. My hopes are that BP is not allowed to operate there, but have someone else take out the oil to get rid of the problem of oil seeping or gushing into our ocean. I am worried for our oceans. The oceans are the life of planet earth. How much oil is down there i wonder. I fear another accident might kill the ocean. The pressures down there are so powerful, that is scarey. Maybe if we suck out the oil the seepage will quit. What do you all think about that?

Here is an article about the ships being there in August!....I'm gathering info and will post everything I can find on it.

www.examiner.com...

reply to post by cloaked4u


The irony of it all is that oil is part of nature. It's not something we can get rid of. It's man's exploitation of it and greed which is the problem.....BTW....not only is BP allowed to operate there, but it just got permission to drill again....if you can believe that! There are so many rigs in the gulf of mexico, it's astounding! Here's an idea of what I mean....

Now, this is interesting (the part about the exhaust and possibly a pump being used) This is a description of what some people who went to investigate saw...

Thence came a progression of oil-related (BP-contracted, we think) work vessels, some ROV-capable and then-some. These included the Meg L. Skandi, C. Chariot, Sarah Bordelon, Normand Pacific, Deep Blue, HOS Iron Horse, Holiday. Only when we reached the Holiday was the visibility good enough for us to identify a line of oil "globules" unequivocally, and they were very near the Holiday. That vessel was almost stationary but there was quite a bit of exhaust coming out of a stack on it, as if it were running a pump or something.

SOURCE: onwingsofcare.org...

I was hoping to get more info today, but have not heard from my friend yet....there are just not enough hours in the day! I'll be back in the morning, hopefully with an update

I spent two months on the Chouest Holiday during the oil BP oil leak. I also spent about two months on the HOS Challenger. The Challenger is a sister ship to the Iron Horse. I was there when we capped the well, and I was on the Challenger when we departed the field. The Challenger and the Holiday were the last two vessels to depart the field. I'm college educated and played an important role in the operations being conducted. Now that I've established some credentials, I'll start by trying to clear a few misconceptions. Once the cap was in place we pumped the well casing full of concrete, so while oil could leak from the seabed it won't leak from the well cap. The oil would take the path of least resistance. I have been on several jobs to salvage old platforms toppled by hurricanes Rita and Katrina. I don't think they could recover the Horizon if they wanted to. It completely sank into the seabed. If they tried to dredge it out, it is so heavy it would probably just sink further. Best case scenario it would have to be chopped up into about 500 pieces and recovered one piece at a time. Originally there was three leaks, but we cut off the busted up riser and the three leaks became just the one leak at the well head that was eventually capped. I'll see if I can find out some info on why these vessels are in the area. My guess is BOEMER told BP to go recover all the equipment we left there on the seabed. If they were just checking for leaks, only one vessel would be on location. The average DP ROV vessel cost about 250K a day... BTW the two reliefs wells were never completed. Drilling ceased once the cap stopped the leak. BP has drilled wells twice as deep as the Macado in the gulf.

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Interesting! I recognize the names of the ships you mentioned. If you have any way of finding out info about why they were there, please share. I don't know if they are there today, but I'm trying to find out something (no easy task). What you said about the relief wells was something I have not heard So you agree that there are leaks coming from damage to the seafloor (not natural, but from damage?) Do you know anything about the "eruptions" that happened from time to time? There are craters near the well which I have pics and video of, and I personally saw and caught on tape some things which were like "bursts" or eruptions of methane (?). I'm no expert, so excuse my lack of technical terms You are saying there WERE actually 3 separate problems (long suspected)? The person I mentioned who is a geohazard expert is saying that there have been some mud volcanoes which have developed in the area (I'll post his article and pics/diagrams) If you have any additional info, please share, Info is hard to come by these days.....I just feel the danger from this is ongoing....I hope I'm wrong.

OK....here is something you should see...the author is BK Lim, the man I mentioned earlier. He has compiled so much info on all this!
bklim.newsvine.mobi...

I found this website that tracks ships - supposedly live. You can enter a region, a port or a ship name. I entered the HOS Iron Horse and it went straight to a marker with a pop up box of info on the ship.

Hope it helps.

www.marinetraffic.com...

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BP confirms they are investigating "natural seeps" from seafloor to surface with at least nine large ships.

Some context you will not like at No 1st Cost List. I have not posted about this before because I wanted more confirmation. Stuart H. Smith has the story posted November 24, 2011 BP admits it is investigating 'natural seeps" going up from seafloor to surface. For the context story read down below the explanation of what the No 1st Cost List is.

Since the field pressure is at least 110,000 psi, these "seeps' are going to get much larger fast. A firestorm is a certain result once natural gas concentrations on surface reach combustion/explosive levels. All it will take is a spark or a lightening strike.

I would not remain anywhere near the Gulf Coast.

reply to post by dalter


Thank you so much for that! Everyone should read that article!. We are being decieved on a grand scale. I was skeptical when I first heard this, but it is true. Those fissures he mentioned around the well head...I have pics and video of it from back when it was going on. Going to post them asap.....I KNOW these are the fissures he mentioned!

reply to post by TheChamelon


How about a #ing solar panel (16 tw @ 1/4 of Nevada)...drilling at 6k is totally unreasonable - would you like to be able to fish in the future? or Drink water? BP needs to be destroyed and the workers can all live on food stamps and low paying jobs, like I do. Its worth the planet. Perhaps we should find a profit motive other than Death.

reply to post by StealthyKat


You are right. BP has full responsibility for this, and the US governement is doing less than nothing. They are printing off drilling permits for yet deeper and more insane wells.

Will this insanity end before the demise of the human race? Id personally like to live ON THIS PLANET without the god damned SKY CATCHING ON FIRE.

If we had a way to have any control over our government that would be cool. I think most people would have been in favor of a giant solar panel (used to synthesise gas in the near term) and a transistion to electric cars. THis could have occured in the 70's but we got handed our own ass again in this battle folks. Instead we have the Iraq war and the largest oil spill in history which dwarfs the exxon. Also, people hate americans more than ever and the fault all lies with a few greedy CEO's, politicians, and war mongers. I also blame ignorant people to a large extent for just assuming 'everything will be ok" that pisses me off the most. Forget fear mongers "It is only a fool who has no fear" (proverbs)

reply to post by StealthyKat
The field integrity is highly questionable for the entire Macondo prospect, that was why many of us contested drilling the area. If a collapse was responsable for the pressure increase, and relief drilling only exacerbated the Pressure increase, the likelihood of continuous oozing from the nearby seafloor is almost certain. No one in the know was fooled by that little rov exercise. This will be a major ongoing problem until the field stabilizes which could be decades.

AX

FTNWO

reply to post by AlphaExray


Yes....agreed. They only did the ROV show to appease people...but they only showed the well up close, and not the surrounding area. That is where the problem lies. The damage done to the sea floor itself. True, seeps are a natural occurance....however, this is not the case here. It is DAMAGE to the sea floor...man made, and it is quite different.

Check this out....he explains it much better than I can. When he talks about the spackling or grouting....that is what we were seeing in all those videos where it looked like huge explosions. They were trying to grout the fissures in the seafloor which were spewing oil, and it couldn't hold. The pressure just blew the grouting material back out in a massive eruption. At the time, I couldn't figure out what these huge explosive events were, but I now see that this is what was happening. BK Lim said this back when it was happening.
Link to my thread from back then about the "explosions" we were seeing, along with MANY videos showing them. scroll down and watch the videos, and read BK Lim's posts on the grouting!
WATCH THE VIDEO BELOW FIRST, then go back to my old thread from October 2010....and there you go. The oil is coming from the damaged sea floor and is still going.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Just happened upon this video. No date on it, so I cannot vouch for it, but obviously, it was after the well was "capped"....what is that burst coming from the cap? Surely not oil.....right? Start at 3:27

Here is the video of the crater I mentioned....it took me a while to find it....it starts at :37....it's very close to the well head.

reply to post by StealthyKat


That looks pretty much like you would expect then! (oil leaking from the sea bed).

It is a travesty. However, my issue with it (and why i will always stick up for BP) is that sea floor leaks are fairly common in the Gulf of Mexico. The entire area is unstable for drilling, therefore singling out BP is just ridiculous in my opinion. This is not to downplay the Macondo Well head but simply a reflection that it could quite conceivably have been any of the players in the oil game that caused this accident - it just so happened that it was at a BP well.

When it first occurred, they had an in depth section on Newsnight (BBC). They were interviewing all sorts of American oil people (many with uncomplimentary things to say about BP). The one thing they all shared though was a belief that no one should be drilling there but this is an inconvenient truth that is downplayed and in many cases outwardly denied as there are all sorts of economic repercussions should drilling be banned.

My only other problem with this is why all the attention on BP? Other firms have caused enormous environmental damage around the world (often US corporations) and these just don't seem to get the same attention. Look at the Chevron spill off Brazil at the moment (more drilling where there shouldn't be any). To someone not from the USA, this smacks of total hypocrisy.

Please note, i am not having a go at those affected by this. I would just like to see a bit of an even handed approach to this whole issue.

reply to post by Flavian


I see what you mean....but I am by no means saying other spills are not important..... or that BP is the only one. I live on the Gulf Coast, and so I am focusing on this because it is something close to me, which affects me. It is all I can do to get and put out info on this one topic. I wish that people who live near other incidents like this would report on it. However, since I am only one person, and it is something I can give some first hand perspective on, I am focusing on this one. That, along with the deciet, and broken promises by BP to the residents here. There are people who are still waiting on some kind of compensation for losing their livlihoods. Also, I believe that there is still a danger here. Yes, natural seeps are all over, but I think this is more than that. I don't know if you followed the 2 big threads during the hieght of the crisis (one being mine), but I collected tons of video showing the huge methane bursts etc....and that to me is more concerning than the oil. The methane is off the charts still. I don't want anyone to think that I don't care about the other disasters, because I do. But I can only do so much. I worry that they went too deep and have opened up something that cannot be contained. We still see oil, both on the surface of the gulf, and on the shores. We never saw this before all this, even from natural seeps. This is different. These companies are going deeper and deeper and it is so close to my home. That's worrisome to me. I am interested to hear all opinions though. Thanks Flav....I respect and appreciate your post!