Alleged extraterrestrial mummy, Quispicanchi (Cuzco - Peru)

Originally posted by starsyren
Ancient central and south american civilizations were known to bind infants heads, in order to elongate the skulls in honor of the "Gods", they also filed their teeth into sharp points. That could be part of it, but it doesn't account for the super-huge eye-sockets...

Yeah, too many anomalies together in one little body. For example, How can we explain the molars?

Not to derail, been meaning to mention this but isn't blue beam or whatever its now called supposed to also include the findings of various supposed unknown artifacts that basically share data on ET/ ALIEN existence or activities on EARTH?

It is interesting but I wonder can it be Earth native also due to its carbon related make up and they either left or went below until otherwise freed or okd to return aboveground. So much happening here on Earth you gotta keep a good hoax or mind minipulation filter. I figured those from the STARZ may possess different what would be considered skeleton structure make up non carbon/ silicone, perhaps something else that wouldnt leave bones like that. just sayen

Originally posted by Ophiuchus 13
Not to derail, been meaning to mention this but isn't blue beam or whatever its now called supposed to also include the findings of various supposed unknown artifacts that basically share data on ET/ ALIEN existence or activities on EARTH?

It is interesting but I wonder can it be Earth native also due to its carbon related make up and they either left or went below until otherwise freed or okd to return aboveground. So much happening here on Earth you gotta keep a good hoax or mind minipulation filter. I figured those from the STARZ may possess different what would be considered skeleton structure make up non carbon/ silicone, perhaps something else that wouldnt leave bones like that. just sayen

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Interesting quote. Well, I was listening an interview made to the anthropologist who found it, he said some of the anomalies were only found in the andean human type/race, and not other place in the world. That made me think about hybrids.

I was reading this link :

www.andina.com.pe...

According to that, there were found 2 mummies, the second is even smaller. This makes harder to believe the deformity theory. Just saying.

The second mummy, only 30 inches, has similar characteristics, but is incomplete because it has no face and is covered by a thin layer similar to the placenta. Both residues are found in the fetal position.

Originally posted by Soylent Green Is People
I mean, would everyone here on ATS believe it if a doctor said "I declare it IS human" without providing more detailed information as to why he thinks that?

The people on ATS are very contrary, and don't trust anybody who says something they don't believe in the first place. However, a doctor saying that it definitely is human at least has the added advantage of most people agreeing that human beings exist. Unlike "aliens." The thing in the photo still looks essentially human, although a few of the details are odd. How non-human does something have to be before it is definitely not a human?

Originally posted by Klassified
Even if this was real(As in ET), which I doubt. It would still be "debunked". No one really thinks a doctor or "government official" is actually going to say; "Yep. It's ET." Not going to happen no matter how convincing the tests might, or might not be.

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Whoa let's not get ridiculous, the bones are real hahah

I dont see anything ET in it, can any1 enlighten on it? Would the eye holes of say a Grey be larger? These look human, tge elongated skull. done by some tribes in that area..

Where is ET> This thread again/ Thread

Originally posted by Imtor

Originally posted by Klassified
Even if this was real(As in ET), which I doubt. It would still be "debunked". No one really thinks a doctor or "government official" is actually going to say; "Yep. It's ET." Not going to happen no matter how convincing the tests might, or might not be.

edit on 11/17/2011 by Klassified because: add and reword

Whoa let's not get ridiculous, the bones are real hahah

I dont see anything ET in it, can any1 enlighten on it? Would the eye holes of say a Grey be larger? These look human, tge elongated skull. done by some tribes in that area..

Where is ET> This thread again/ Thread

Again, seems like people are focused in the skull shape only. I recommend to re-read the info presented. It's more than that :

eye sockets too large for a human being, likewise, said he has an open fontanelle (the space between the bones of the skull that have babies until the year life, as they grow, space, or fontanelle, disappears).

The curious fact is that despite this division present the mummy has molars, which do not grow in humans until 4 or six years.

"It lacks the hands but the arm bones are so delicate that no finite and correspond to a dwarf.

Also, a second body has been reported. 2 deformed human mumies found together ?

The second mummy, only 30 inches, has similar characteristics, but is incomplete because it has no face and is covered by a thin layer similar to the placenta. Both residues are found in the fetal position

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Whoa let's not get ridiculous, the bones are real hahah

I didn't say the bones weren't real. I said "real(as in ET)". In other words, real ET bones. Now reread my post, and you'll see what I was saying.

Apologies for short reply it's 3:20am here in the UK and I'm meant to be working. What bothers me about the pics it seems the mummy/skeleton already seems to be displayed in some sort of glass viewing box, like the sort you see in museums. Which questions me 1. If it was ET they wouldnt put it on show, it would be locked away somewhere and 2. If it is in a glass box then surely all sorts of tests have already been done on it and possibly confirmed it as human.
I don't know just a thought, as much as I'd like it to be alien I just don't think they would have it on show if it was

Is there a link to Progeria and grey aliens? The greys look a lot similar with a large head, narrow chest, lean arms and legs. Little off topic.

I don't usually delve into this part of the forums, but I came across a little more information I thought you might be interested in.

This is a photo of the recovered mummy and the archaeologist that found it. It shows you just how small this thing is.



And a couple more photos:





The mummy was first discovered about 2 years ago at a hill called Wiracochan. It has since gone through extensive preservation into the state it's in now.

It seems to be a legitimate find. However, there have been no tests done so far to determine if the mummy is extraterrestrial in origin. It could very well be the result of a birth defect or ritualistic deformity. We won't know until further data is collected.

Just a quick thought to add: Assume this is real and not completely contrived all they really would have is a skeleton that doesn't seem to match what a human is expected to look like. If the DNA testing concludes it does not match standard human DNA all they would then know for sure is that they do not have human remains.

Why are they assuming that it is from another planet so quickly? This world was packed full of non-human hominids at one time which any anthropologist would be WELL aware of.

It would make just as much sense to say that there is some sort of hominid that is not known to science that existed later than previously thought than it would to announce there is an alien.

I have studied quite a bit of anthropology so I am not speaking from a place of complete conjecture and ignorance here. (Just slight conjecture and ignorance)

Either way it is for this reason that I would tend to think this is indeed a hoax.

Originally posted by ThePeaceMaker
Apologies for short reply it's 3:20am here in the UK and I'm meant to be working. What bothers me about the pics it seems the mummy/skeleton already seems to be displayed in some sort of glass viewing box, like the sort you see in museums. Which questions me 1. If it was ET they wouldnt put it on show, it would be locked away somewhere and 2. If it is in a glass box then surely all sorts of tests have already been done on it and possibly confirmed it as human.
I don't know just a thought, as much as I'd like it to be alien I just don't think they would have it on show if it was

Thanks for your comment, it gives an opportunity to to explain something very important, normaly not taken in consideration in cases like this one.

In USA, Europe and many developed countries we got used to expect that kind of actions by a government when something like that is found.

In Peru and some other countries in South America is different, UFO- Alien phenomena it's been accepted as part of the culture for many centuries, this found is just another confirmation for what most of peruvians had been believing for hundreds of years, as part of the explanation to many wonders of the founding acient civilizations.

It would be a different reaction if this mummy found would include gold or any other item with economic value.

I respond to you as someone who spent half of his life in south america.

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I understand your point of view and thank your comments. Certainly, we can't call it hoax by any means until DNA test confirms such a thing. For now, there is zero evidence to say it is fake. I also would like to have a deeper investigation an analysis.

Explanation: S&F!

Uhmmm?

The Elephant Man [aka Joseph Carey Merrick ] ...





The Elephant Man's Skeleton ...





Roy [Rocky] L. Dennis [aka The Mask] ...

Roy "Rocky" Dennis was born on 1961 with a very rare disease known as lionitis, this caused abnormal calcium deposits in his skull that deformed his nose and pushed his eyes to the sides of his face. He was a straight A student and lived 5 years longer than he was originally supposed to. Doctors said he would die at the age of 7 years old from the pressure on his brain and that he would never learn to read but, he did. He had massive head aches, his hearing wasn't very good and often times his sight became distorted. After Roy died his body was sent to UCLA Medical Center for testing of the disease and body. Lionitis is EXTREMELY rare with only 20 ever recorded cases, 1 in 22 million births. The movie 'Mask' was dedicated to him.

Skull Binding effects ...







Some types of natural skull deformations.

Craniosynostosis [wiki]





And example of one of the above natural skull deformations.





And this extreme case sourced from Dept. of Neurosurgery at Universtity of Indonesia (case overview) [bedah-saraf.edu]





Personal Disclosure: From the source linked in the OP on page1 ...

Davila Riquelme said three anthropologists, from Spain and Russia, arrived at the museum last week to investigate the findings and agreed it was ‘not a human being’ and would conduct further studies.

He added: ‘Although the assessment was superficial, it is obvious that its features do not correspond to any ethnic group in the world.’

Thank you for the photos. On the other thread of this tonight, I was trying to make the point about this been a practice of some cultures. And you provided proof. I have no patience with uploading photos. Thanks!

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EXCELLENT POST !

star for you !

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This is a little off topic, but the topic lead me to think about it.
The whole ancient aliens thing.. If aliens led people to build the pyramids, why would the put "mere" men in them?

Also with the hieroglyphics showing giant people. I was thinking what if they were carved generations after that person had died and they were exaggerations on the size of a really tall/large/great-notable person. Over the years a legend grows and they are depicted that way.
Just a thought, the south park episode got me thinking.

Anyway thanks for the neat pictures OP. Not coming here to debunk or take the topic off thread, just thinking.

Originally posted by allenidaho


This is a photo of the recovered mummy and the archaeologist that found it. It shows you just how small this thing is.

And a couple more photos:


It seems to be a legitimate find. However, there have been no tests done so far to determine if the mummy is extraterrestrial in origin. It could very well be the result of a birth defect or ritualistic deformity. We won't know until further data is collected.

Indeed... it was reported the skeleton remains measured 50 cm (Or Else 19.68 inches) so it is indeed small.
[[there have been several typos in the thread which claim the small skeletons to be 30 and 50 inches...instead of centimeters]]


2 spanish MDs and a Russian Doctor were invited to make comment after seeing the remains of what once was a mummified new-born.

No DNA tests, no rigirous tests were done or even seem to be planned... the Archeologist seems content just publicizing the oddity and getting the area and the find in the public realm.


IMO:
either a elaborate hoax, a model built by an accomplished movie monster artist ~OR~

an actual entity birthed ages ago.... the product of intentional deformation by the Priest class, the mother selected to birth alien looking freaks, through the selected diets and ingestion of certain compounds and chemicals that cause malformations of the fetus. these 'virgins' to the 'gods' were selected in part by heredity factors because they were prone to develop alien offspring...
I suspect that the anthropoligist discoverer has hints that this was the case so that's why all the reluctance to do intense investigation. because that discovery would put the ancient religious rites in a very dark-light

Wow...How would a tiny human that size have molars already? And why are the eye sockets so huge? The head is literally almost the size of the torso.

This thing looks about the size of my newborn daughter years ago. But with molars, it had to reach a reasonable age in life. Even if there were head binding, that would not explain those teeth and eyes.