Human Experimentation. Will We Ever Learn?

There have been numerous accounts of people that have been killed due to human experimentation. Name any place, all over the world this has been done. Though this was trial and error in many cases for hundreds of years, there in my opinion is no excuse now.

You no longer have to be in the medical field to know what can and cannot harm a human being. We seem to want to extend life, but at what cost? For everything that is prescribed at your local pharmacy, or your doctors office, could not have become available unless it was tested.

But do we care about who it was tested on? Do we ask were there any casualties. I mean sure we see the giant list of side effects, including suicidal thoughts, and even death. But have we become so vain that we dont care about those young and old and in between that suffer quietly, with their minimal amount of money, while big pharma rakes in billions?

This isn't all about those that suffer to make you look 5 yrs younger.. at best. But those that suffer when the FDA approves a drug that eventually kills a loved one. Or the agony of watching a loved one slowly die, because 10 medications in the eyes of big pharma is better then 2.

After the Nazi Occupation they have a code called the Nuremberg Code. Now based on this code, do you think that these rules are being followed today?

NUREMBERG CODE
Directives for Human Experimentation
Reprinted from Trials of War Criminals before the Nuremberg Military Tribunals under Control Council Law No. 10, Vol. 2, pp. 181-182.. Washington, D.C.: U.S. Government Printing Office, 1949.
ohsr.od.nih.gov...

Now this was written in 1949. Do you think that there are any famous cases that have been exposed since then?
Lets see.
We have the.....
Tuskegee syphilis experiment
secure.wikimedia.org...

Unethical human experimentation in the United States

In 1950, in order to conduct a simulation of a biological warfare attack, the US Navy used airplanes to spray large quantities of the bacteria Serratia marcescens over the city of San Francisco, California, which caused numerous citizens to contract pneumonia-like illnesses, and killed at least one person.[30][31][32][33][34] The family of the man who was killed sued for gross negligence, but a federal judge ruled in favor of the government in 1981.[35] Serratia tests were continued until at least 1969.[36]

Also in 1950, Dr. Joseph Stokes of the University of Pennsylvania deliberately infected 200 female prisoners with viral hepatitis

From the 1950s to 1972, mentally disabled children at the Willowbrook State School in Staten Island, New York were intentionally infected with viral hepatitis, in research whose purpose was to help discover a vaccine.[38] From 1963 to 1966, Saul Krugman of New York University promised the parents of mentally disabled children that their children would be enrolled into Willowbrook in exchange for signing a consent form for procedures that he claimed were "vaccinations." In reality, the procedures involved deliberately infecting children with viral hepatitis by feeding them an extract made from the feces of patients infected with the disease.[39][40]

In 1952, Sloan-Kettering Institute researcher Chester M. Southam injected live cancer cells into prisoners at the Ohio State Prison. Half of the prisoners in this NIH-sponsored study were black - the other half weren't. Also at Sloan-Kettering, 300 healthy women were injected with live cancer cells without being told. The doctors stated that they knew at the time that it might cause cancer.

In 1955, the CIA conducted a biological warfare experiment (despite the Fourth Geneva Convention) where they released whooping cough bacteria from boats outside of Tampa Bay, Florida, causing a whooping cough epidemic in the city, and killing at least 12 people.

In 1956 and 1957, several U.S. Army biological warfare experiments were conducted on the cities of Savannah, Georgia and Avon Park, Florida. In the experiments, Army bio-warfare researchers released millions of infected mosquitoes on the two towns, in order to see if the insects could potentially spread yellow fever and dengue fever. Hundreds of residents contracted a wide array of illnesses, including fevers, respiratory problems, stillbirths, encephalitis, and typhoid. Army researchers pretended to be public health workers, so that they could photograph and perform medical tests on the victims. Several people died as a result of the experiments.

In 1962, twenty-two elderly patients at the Jewish Chronic Disease Hospital in Brooklyn, New York were injected with live cancer cells by Chester M. Southam, who in 1952 had done the same to prisoners at the Ohio State Prison, in order to "discover the secret of how healthy bodies fight the invasion of malignant cells". The administration of the hospital attempted to cover the study up, but the New York State medical licensing board ultimately placed Southam on probation for one year. Two years later, the American Cancer Society elected him as their Vice President.

In 1966, the U.S. Army released the harmless Bacillus globigii into the tunnels of the New York subway system as part of a field study called A Study of the Vulnerability of Subway Passengers in New York City to Covert Attack with Biological Agents.[42][47][48][49][50] The Chicago subway system was also subject to a similar experiment by the Army.

I am adding the link,I have only added those after 1949.
secure.wikimedia.org...
That lists goes on and on.

Obviously they had to find a way for us to completely agree with them experimenting on us. There was no way that they wanted to tarnish, their already questionable reputations. By doing this they pay millions a year to advertise commercials that have can diagnose you, without a doctor present.

Which means when you go to your doctor and "ask" or discuss symptoms that your late not commercial viewing has warned you about, you have actually given authority to the doctor to prescribe you based on the information that he is receiving from you personally.

Top Ten Evil Human Experiments
listverse.com...

Ethics in human experimentation in science-based medicine
www.sciencebasedmedicine.org...

The above link tells about how big pharma has moved their experiments to other countries. And here is a story that reminded to never forget that though we dont hear about it, it still happens everywhere. The difference between them getting offered money, but WE actually give them our cash so that we can be the guinea pigs.

893 Turks die in major drug companies’ experiments

The total number of world deaths caused by pharmaceutical experimentation runs as high as 120,000. The issue is reportedly caused by tight regulations in countries like the United States and England, which push the pharmaceutical companies to direct their studies to countries that have looser ethical and technical regulations.
Pfizer, Bristol Myers, PPD, Squibb, Amgen, Bayer, Eli Lilly, Quintiles, Merck, KGaA, Sanofi-Aventis and Wyeth are some of the known companies to conduct such experiments overseas.

Ran out of space, but you get the picture.
Peace, NRE.

I wanted to add that the Nuremberg Code clearly states in #5 and #10

5. No experiment should be conducted where there is an a priori reason to believe that death or disabling injury will occur; except, perhaps, in those experiments where the experimental physicians also serve as subjects.

10. During the course of the experiment the scientist in charge must be prepared to terminate the experiment at any stage, if he has probably cause to believe, in the exercise of the good faith, superior skill and careful judgment required of him that a continuation of the experiment is likely to result in injury, disability, or death to the experimental subject.

www.ushmm.org...

There was a reason why this needed to be implemented. If people choose to be blind to this, then there is nothing that can be done for future generations that will be severely effected by this.

Here is a link that also refers to haw this should be dealt with, but Im sure as you already know the loopholes is what keeps these guys in business.

Title 45 CFR Part

Code of Federal Regulations

TITLE 45 PUBLIC WELFARE

DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES

PART 46
PROTECTION OF HUMAN SUBJECTS
ohsr.od.nih.gov...

WORLD MEDICAL ASSOCIATION DECLARATION OF HELSINKI

Ethical Principles for Medical Research Involving Human Subjects
ohsr.od.nih.gov...

Peace, NRE.

You know I didn't realize it till now that these 2 should have been together. This is the cost of not paying attention to both the agenda of those who took a oath to help those in need, and those who took an oath to get paid.

If thought about hard enough there is a domino effect to both of these threads, this is how crimes can be easily renamed "medical research".

I Don't Have A Disorder... According to This You Do!
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Peace, NRE.

reply to post by NoRegretsEver


A few things to understand about the Nuremburg code:

The Nuremburg code is well-recognized as being imperfect. With the powers of retrospect, we can say that it was written as more of a symbolic display to represent the moral disgust felt towards the actions that took place within Nazi Germany. As a result of this, the main focus of the document was placed on the issue of voluntary consent and away from other equally important factors, the most prominent of which being to ensure that the nature of the research and experiments themselves were safe. It was criticised quite heavily for this from about the 1970's/1980's, which resulted in the formation of revisions and eventually in the formation of the Declaration of Helsinki, which formed the greater part of the foundations for current ethical guidelines as they pertain to scientific research.

Another interesting thing to note about the Nuremburg code, which more or less panders to the underpinning ideas of the OP, is that the extreme nature of the experiments undertaken by Nazi scientists was often used to blind-sight the ethical problems inherent within research science.While writing this, I was reading a book about the ethical and political considerations surrounding the Nuremburg code and I came across this quote, which stated '...the Nuremburg code, devised as a yardstick to measure the abuses of 'Nazi doctors'. The foundations of this level of complacency wasn't recognized fully until reports of immoral research within the US was revealed.

I am adding the link,I have only added those after 1949.
secure.wikimedia.org...
That lists goes on and on.

The thing to note about this link is that the vast majority of cases reported are from the last century. In fact, I count only 2 mentions of anything past 2000 and perhaps the same amount for the 1990's. Obviously there is still some degree of unethical research being undertaken within the US, some of which is quite likely still hidden and unknown, but I think it is relatively benign compared to the gross abuses you might have encountered in the past. Regulations have gotten much stricter and ethical approval for human experimentation much harder to obtain. While I agree that this may very well promote subterfuge, I think the difficulty in being able to elicit immoral experiments precludes it from taking place to large degree. Primarily, the types of ethical misconducts you see these days are related to fudging or misrepresentation of experimental data. This obviously has a profound effect when one considers pharmaceutical research, but again, I don't think that this happens to the same extent as it once did.

You no longer have to be in the medical field to know what can and cannot harm a human being. We seem to want to extend life, but at what cost? For everything that is prescribed at your local pharmacy, or your doctors office, could not have become available unless it was tested.

But do we care about who it was tested on?

If you are going to take a truly altruistic approach to your opinions on human experimentation, you should know that it does in fact save more lives than not; the phrase, 'for the greater good,' comes to mind here.