Body Armor For When The SHTF

reply to post by camaro68ss


Not sure if that particular company sells to the public, but you can order from ebay, gun owners forums, or check out local gun shows. There are many places to shop for good body armor.

reply to post by camaro68ss


Am I correct in that you intend to be militantly and guard your home, possessions, and property? If so, good luck! You're just going to get killed.

reply to post by Evolutionsend


I wouldnt say that. Lots of folks have the numbers to hold a smaller parcel.

Probably better to skip the patrol thing in exchange for sewage soaked spikes and a single sniper. If he is successful or fails, that shot is your warning bell. Patrolling is intentionally placing yourself in harms way and directly into a firefight. Thats an army tactic, not a survival tactic.

But if one was going to do patrols, there is a guy who sells cheap plates on the survivalist boards. Factory over runs and in perfect shape.

reply to post by Shadowalker


Whenever you draw a line, and guard that line, you need reinforcements or just by basic math you will eventually be overwhelmed. Also, drawing a line makes humans more curious about what it is you are guarding, and draws those numbers. I wouldn't do anything like guard my house, I have very little reinforcement and a house and some items are not worth dieing over.

Body armor may help matters, but it's not going to change the above human mentality and the consequence of guarding something without any reinforcements.

Originally posted by Evolutionsend
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Am I correct in that you intend to be militantly and guard your home, possessions, and property? If so, good luck! You're just going to get killed.

Well if your going to be like that, good luck in a long term SHTF world where it could be years before things get back to normal. good luck holding up in your house collecting rain water from the roof and eatting rats. I dont know your circumstances but ours our ideal with farm land, cattle, pigs, horses,chickens, rivers, and ponds filled with fish and off the beaten path. it all has to be protected from those that will take it from you. We have a group of close family a friends all getting ready. yes we need to guard our property, our propery is our life. without it we have no means to eat or drink water long term.

What i see coming will take years to come back to any normal means of life even if we get that. good luck holding up in your house.

reply to post by camaro68ss


I just said that I wasn't going to stay putt at home. That's the reason "bugging out" is mentioned. You can't guard a piece of land forever. It may even take years, but eventually a group of people will amass and take it from you.

Originally posted by Shadowalker
reply to post by Evolutionsend

 

I wouldnt say that. Lots of folks have the numbers to hold a smaller parcel.

Probably better to skip the patrol thing in exchange for sewage soaked spikes and a single sniper. If he is successful or fails, that shot is your warning bell. Patrolling is intentionally placing yourself in harms way and directly into a firefight. Thats an army tactic, not a survival tactic.

But if one was going to do patrols, there is a guy who sells cheap plates on the survivalist boards. Factory over runs and in perfect shape.

Our patrols are more of a communications with the house around us when we need to. Mostly we will have look out points(LP,OP's)

Were not dumb. we are not going to take a walk down the middle of the road chattering it up

Originally posted by Evolutionsend
reply to post by camaro68ss

 

I just said that I wasn't going to stay putt at home.

That's the reason "bugging out" is mentioned. You can't guard a piece of land forever. It may even take years, but eventually a group of people will amass and take it from you.

well any large group of people can take anything away from you. But do what they will, attacking a dug in defence on the high ground with fences and a few 100 yards of open land. with natural choke points, and zeroed in battle rifles for those distances, good luck.

One of the best Body Armours I have seen, well not personally but on TV is by that show Future Weapons in which they study the Dragon Skin body armour. Obviously you can't buy this in the open market but if we can get our hands on this type of armour then we could have a chance of surviving shots to our chest and back, unless of course they aim for our heads!

Well you have the farm and set up and its remote.

If it was me I would kill all the man hours and put up a motion sensor skirt and run it to a cheap card access system. There you can program events and alarms and some of them let you control cameras. set up an input group to fire a strobe inside so you dont have to have a control room and when the strobe goes off its either an animal (dinner) or you need to go find out who is there.

Its really not that hard to do and you can clear electric eye pathways through the woods around you as well.

Probably collect the parts at garage sales and junk shops and pick up a cheap software system and panels for about $600. Even if you got fancy and spent 1500.00 you can use it right now and every day. just need one person with a radio in the same room as the strobe. Kitchen or living room, where ever people will be most often.

Originally posted by Shadowalker
Well you have the farm and set up and its remote.

If it was me I would kill all the man hours and put up a motion sensor skirt and run it to a cheap card access system. There you can program events and alarms and some of them let you control cameras. set up an input group to fire a strobe inside so you dont have to have a control room and when the strobe goes off its either an animal (dinner) or you need to go find out who is there.

Its really not that hard to do and you can clear electric eye pathways through the woods around you as well.

Probably collect the parts at garage sales and junk shops and pick up a cheap software system and panels for about $600. Even if you got fancy and spent 1500.00 you can use it right now and every day. just need one person with a radio in the same room as the strobe. Kitchen or living room, where ever people will be most often.

great point, not thought of yet. We are just getting our hydro plant up and running that is also supported by solar power. First is power, without it we could not run these systems. With the extra detection systems you would still need two people manning the from gates, behind cover, at all times. thats where the Body Armor comes in.

Originally posted by TheEnlightenedOne
One of the best Body Armours I have seen, well not personally but on TV is by that show Future Weapons in which they study the Dragon Skin body armour. Obviously you can't buy this in the open market but if we can get our hands on this type of armour then we could have a chance of surviving shots to our chest and back, unless of course they aim for our heads!

I was just reading up on that. Remembered the armor from 4 years ago.

I could buy one if I wanted. They are damn expensive though.

Does anyone have any experience with Dragon SKIN?

reply to post by camaro68ss


If you cannot buy one from a shop, buy it online.
If that does not work, go to an armored car service and talk to their guys about buying their old ones.
Even after being shot body armor does not really "go bad".
It jjust gets a little weaker in that area, but non hit armor is inside of a sleeve, so it almost never suffers from exposure.
I used to have a vest made of Spectra shield they said it was 10 times stronger than kevlar, kevlar is 10 times stronger than steel.
The vest was a 3A the thickness of a 2A, quite nice to wear.

reply to post by SpaDe_


If you take a big caliber such as a 30'06 hit with any body armor, more than likely you will not in the next second be able to do much except find your ass flat on the street. You just lost the game. The guy behind that first round will already be pumping additional rounds all about your body. You are already dead wearing that weighty armor and assorted gear.

So many of you guys want to play your video game heros out in real life.

reply to post by Lemon.Fresh


These people do.

www.msnbc.msn.com...

If you shoot on a regular basis, I would suggest getting a Type IIIA, if for no other reason than accidents at the range to happen. You should check on local restrictions, but you could buy one on Ebay or Craigslist.

reply to post by generik


You can't compare led balls to our modern bullets. There is no way your armor will stop a modern bullet.
Ammo will become scarce rapidly however I'm pretty sure there will be enough people that are wise enough to keep a clip for nasty situations.

reply to post by camaro68ss



Those systems are perfect for the goal. people dont know this but almost all of them run on 12 or 24 volts. At the terminal end where they plug in is a transformer that goes in the wall. If you look close the cheaper home and small business systems will all be labeled 12v. Commercial will be 24v and older commercial will sometimes be 36v. You can use those numbers when your sorting through junk shops and sort the parts that work for your panels/system.

I think with trying to keep a farm running your folks should really consider it. Getting to the point you only respond to game animals and humans would give the farm a fighting chance. Be sure to stock heavy from the supply on chicken dusting powder and the trouble items to keep the animals happy.

reply to post by camaro68ss


Be aware on the armor there are a lot of rounds that are common they didnt put to the plate test. 8mm mauser at 198gr and steel penetrator is one of them. A standard round sold by the pallet here. Without spending a couple thousand and ruining some armor its hard to know if they will work for some of those.

Also be aware many people have swaging machines and produce bullets with cobalt tool steel inserts which shatter at the plate and pass through as a mini shotgun blast. Tungsten carbide is another insert and it just keeps going till all the energy is absorbed.

Probably better to have it if your static though. its nothing you want if you have to be on the move but makes sense in a static position.

Originally posted by Aliensun
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If you take a big caliber such as a 30'06 hit with any body armor, more than likely you will not in the next second be able to do much except find your ass flat on the street. You just lost the game. The guy behind that first round will already be pumping additional rounds all about your body. You are already dead wearing that weighty armor and assorted gear.

So many of you guys want to play your video game heros out in real life.

yes, but i dont know to many people who even have 30-06. its not a common size and if they do have it there only going to have a few boxes of ammo. some armor is better then no armor at all