Scientific evidence that that supports the theory of alien life.

If people are given proof that much more intelligent life that exists beyond their slave chatter, then they would cease to strive. Isolated tribes that have been discovered over the last 100 years or so have not done so well as their self confidence atrophies once they interact with beings exhibiting technology they don't understand. The uniqueness of this world is being assimilated while our isolation is being enforced. Sequentialization is the projected theme. Socialism is no different than herding.
If people are aware of a higher authority than the governments, who will they respect in the end?

Originally posted by zigmeister
The case for alien life is generally more supported by scientists now then it was in the past. I'm confident it will be discovered in our lifetime.

Eithe that or "it will discover us"..lol

Just hope that if/when it dose, they aren't partial to white meat..

Just commenting so I can find the thread later. Nice body of work,well put together.

Thanks for the well presented thread.

I'm on the fence as to whether or not we've been visited by an advanced alien civilisation, but the odds of us being the only advanced beings in the universe seems more unlikely than one teeming with advanced life in my opinion.
Nature has a habit of repeating itself, just look at all the extrasolar planets discovered so far that are similar to the gas planets in our own solar system. I think it's safe to say that there are similar planets to our earth out there as well, not just rocky worlds of a similar size and distance from their sun but also worlds with similar atmospheric conditions, surface temperatures, forests, oceans etc. Conditions suitable for complex life to evolve/form.

By the way I hadn't heard of the 2003 SETI signal before so thanks for including that.

Great well-researched thread; hope you got applause for it.

Here is what I think (just to add my 2 cents to the discussion)

The WOW signal

This one always sounded to me like one of those signals some scientists have sent from Earth; short, non-reptitive. They just happened to be listening at the right place at the right time. The only way to confirm this as ET civilisation would be to continuously monitor the same area in hopes of another short message being sent. Of course, this would then be explained as being some weird natural unknown phenomenon. It's a no-win...

2003 SETI signal

What I find peculiar about this one is that it's 8 years old and nobody has come back, one way or another, stating that they still detect it or that it's never been detected again. You'd think that by now there would be more information one way or another.

Mars

I do believe there is still life on Mars. Probably microbial, but who knows; maybe more advanced. Perhaps in the past, if it was more advanced, some of it may have adapted to the current climate of the planet (I'm talking plants and perhaps insects, no more).

Jupiters and saturns Moons

Ah! Plenty for the taking here! Probably a lot of life here. Life started in the oceans here on Earth; lot's of possibilities on those moons. I would be incredibly surprised if several of them did not have life.

Venus

I was very happy when I first read, a few years ago, about the possibility of microbial life on Venus. I tend to think life was probably much more advanced there a long time ago before the planet heated up. Something(s) survived!

The Drake Equation

Pure speculation, of course. I understand why Drake came up with it; it was simply to show people to expect life elsewhere. Kind of like when you show people Earth in relation to the rest of the universe and ask; "Do you really think we're alone?".

UFO's

I started off as a sceptic in regards to Roswell. After spending a lot of time weeding through all the information and disinformation, I've come to the conclusion that it's for real.

I also studied the Betty Hill case and, particularly, the star map. The only logical conclusion is that she and Barny were telling the truth.

As for the reports by astronauts, there are no better observers. Still doesn't mean they saw extraterrestrial vehicles, but they did see something.

In conclusion, we have a wealth of possibilities in this solar system alone. If it does pan out that there is or has been life on Mars, Venus, the moons of Jupiter and Saturn, then we can expect life pretty much everywhere; we are finding it in the most unexpected places on Earth. Then, if there is that much life, there is a lot of intelligent life. I personally think that we should expect several million ET civilisations in this galaxy alone.

Please, continue to post threads of this quality; there are too few of them on this site.

Originally posted by ajmusicmedia
I also studied the Betty Hill case and, particularly, the star map. The only logical conclusion is that she and Barny were telling the truth.

It's hard to tell, some call it debunked, I dont know what to call it. If you have seen the interview with her, can be found on youtube, she shows some photos of 'UFOs' some lights in the sky.

Then again those people who sound credible and I believe more, are people who want to stay anonymous and hidden, their voice changed etc. This shows they are not doing it for attention and fame, and no one knows who they are,

Betty Hil, some other abductors ALWAYS come with a book, it;s like every time they promote their book, how can one know they are not making money out of some science fiction? I dont buy it from people who promote their books, it looks like everyone who has had a case, has written a book then promotes it. These are the kind of people I cannot trust

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I've done a lot of think tanking over this exact subject. The rewards of telling the truth are miniscule. Social order is key, power of will is key. Our masters do not want us to question them AT ALL!

As my own personal opinion, they are right. I'd rather have sheep then a chaotic society. As much fun as some people think it would be I'd rather not run to the woods with my 100 lb bag of crap and try to survive a winter. Order has some form of wealth.

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Well, the clarity returns.

I respect your belief then, and I respect the opinion regarding the scripture but I must point out only Earth is mentioned. I also believe this part is possibly Enki telling humans this after those Babylonian 'Gods' had departed the scene.

I also must point out the part where it states in Genesis 1:26 that God said 'Let us make man in our image and after our likeness'. This surely isn't referencing the holy trinity because you can trace these verses meanings back to Assyrian and Babylonian creation stories where we were made out of clay and a God was slayed to provide us spirit. We were then placed in a womb for 10 months and were born to do the work of the Annunaki. Surely you are re-tracing the origins of the Old Testament Genesis creation story?

If you are going to have scriptural belief you need to ensure you follow its origins. The origins of Genesis, which you quoted, are from Babylonian times. Even the Noah story is represented, almost precisely, in these older writings. Atra-hasis/Uptanishtim. They are no different. This then also throws into doubt the entire lineage of Adam and Eve, which is already in doubt due to the error of both Seth and Cains' lineages having the same people.

As much as I respect scriptural belief I see flaws and also obvious interactions with entities that aren't necessarily benevolent or malevolent. I believe they act according to their needs. Ezekiel was practically tortured, with the requests made by Yahweh

9And when I looked, behold, an hand was sent unto me; and, lo, a roll of a book was therein;

10And he spread it before me; and it was written within and without: and there was written therein lamentations, and mourning, and woe.

1Moreover he said unto me, Son of man, eat that thou findest; eat this roll, and go speak unto the house of Israel.

2So I opened my mouth, and he caused me to eat that roll.

3And he said unto me, Son of man, cause thy belly to eat, and fill thy bowels with this roll that I give thee. Then did I eat it; and it was in my mouth as honey for sweetness.

Lamentations? Really? Also, the worst bit:

4Lie thou also upon thy left side, and lay the iniquity of the house of Israel upon it: according to the number of the days that thou shalt lie upon it thou shalt bear their iniquity.

5For I have laid upon thee the years of their iniquity, according to the number of the days, three hundred and ninety days: so shalt thou bear the iniquity of the house of Israel.

6And when thou hast accomplished them, lie again on thy right side, and thou shalt bear the iniquity of the house of Judah forty days: I have appointed thee each day for a year.

Keep in mind this LORD arrived on a

whirlwind came out of the north, a great cloud, and a fire infolding itself, and a brightness was about it, and out of the midst thereof as the colour of amber, out of the midst of the fire.

that also had

Also out of the midst thereof came the likeness of four living creatures. And this was their appearance; they had the likeness of a man.

6And every one had four faces, and every one had four wings.

7And their feet were straight feet; and the sole of their feet was like the sole of a calf's foot: and they sparkled like the colour of burnished brass.

8And they had the hands of a man under their wings on their four sides; and they four had their faces and their wings.

9Their wings were joined one to another; they turned not when they went; they went every one straight forward.

10As for the likeness of their faces, they four had the face of a man, and the face of a lion, on the right side: and they four had the face of an ox on the left side; they four also had the face of an eagle.

11Thus were their faces: and their wings were stretched upward; two wings of every one were joined one to another, and two covered their bodies.

12And they went every one straight forward: whither the spirit was to go, they went; and they turned not when they went.

13As for the likeness of the living creatures, their appearance was like burning coals of fire, and like the appearance of lamps: it went up and down among the living creatures; and the fire was bright, and out of the fire went forth lightning.

14And the living creatures ran and returned as the appearance of a flash of lightning.

15Now as I beheld the living creatures, behold one wheel upon the earth by the living creatures, with his four faces.

16The appearance of the wheels and their work was like unto the colour of a beryl: and they four had one likeness: and their appearance and their work was as it were a wheel in the middle of a wheel.

17When they went, they went upon their four sides: and they turned not when they went.

I've no idea what this is describing but it DOES NOT sound typical.

Wow, what a nicely put together thread and presentation.

Very informative, s+f.

IMHO...The best evidence regarding the existence of alien visitors on earth are the Phoenix Lights. Thousands of people saw it. I find it hard to believe so many people could be wrong. How can anybody discount this sighting?

I believe in alien life. However, I also believe since the Universe is so massive, we'll never actually make contact.

Even if another life form detected us...Why would they want to make contact with us? They would take one look at our messed up world, roll up their windows, run stop signs, and keep going. Kinda like what you do when you're rolling through a ghetto.

Please watch movie THRIVE!

Link to download:
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Originally posted by starshift
I have always thought of the different races of man as separate species

Sorry.... Can you run that by me again? Last time I herad all human races are part from ONE species.

Whahahahaahah

reply to post by Misterlondon


If you can prove alien life then you can prove evolution so goodluck, but I don't think you will be able to.I'm 100% confident in the bible its never failed me yet and remains to be the most popular and remarkable books in history which contains all the answers man kind needs.

Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
reply to post by Misterlondon

 

If you can prove alien life then you can prove evolution so goodluck, but I don't think you will be able to.I'm 100% confident in the bible its never failed me yet and remains to be the most popular and remarkable books in history which contains all the answers man kind needs.

edit on 15-11-2011 by RevelationGeneration because: (no reason given)

sorry to have to break this to you.

bible fails


and how do you know which bible is right there have been so many...

if i had to choose one religion it would be Buddhism it has truly never failed and heck its the first one.


and alien life or life not from this planet earth has been proven to exist.

Thanks OP.

This was the first interesting read I've had on ATS in over 2 years. It wasn't full of nonsensical theories and you clearly differentiate between the science (although, not always perfect) and the supernatural.

Good job.

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I understand you have passion for your personal beliefs, but you seem to be filling every thread here with them. This thread is about extra terrestial life- not bible studies.....

S&F to OP, very interesting thread.

Great thread I can always count on you to do a very interesting thread MisterLondon. By god if its not little green men, bacteria will prove us right

Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
reply to post by Misterlondon

 

If you can prove alien life then you can prove evolution so goodluck, but I don't think you will be able to.I'm 100% confident in the bible its never failed me yet and remains to be the most popular and remarkable books in history which contains all the answers man kind needs.

So what answer do you get from this passage?

Ezekiel 1:4 I looked, and I saw a windstorm coming out of the north—an immense cloud with flashing lightning and surrounded by brilliant light. The center of the fire looked like glowing metal....

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Oh please, Misterlondon, dont encourage him........