Top 10 Most Evil People

#8 Shirō Ishii of Japan's Unit 731...I find particularly interesting, since U.S. authorities gave him immunity at the end of the war. I guess not any different from Operation Paperclip, where hundreds of Nazi scientists were given immunity and asylum in trade for working for the U.S. governement.

And for all the anti-U.S. people out there, I'm not sure all the people we've killed in the world topples these numbers:

Ivan the IV of Russian: Between 500 and 1000 people were gathered every day by the troops, then tortured and killed...

Jiang Qing: Estimates are as high as 3 million deaths, with 36 million being persecuted.

Pol Pot: Estimated to have killed around 2 million Cambodians (approximately one third of the population).

Heinich Himmler: The architect of the holocaust and final solution."

Adolph Hitler: Tens of millions of people, including the genocide of some six million Jews,

Josef Stalin: In total, estimates of the number murdered under Stalins reign, range from 10 million to 60 million.

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Without these people, we would've reached the 7 billion mark a while back ago.

Originally posted by Alchemicflames
Without these people, we would've reached the 7 billion mark a while back ago.

So Machvialli, do the ends justify the means?

How say you?

reply to post by Cosmic911

I'm not sure humans are good or evil as much as good or evil operate thru them. Our capacity in that regard is how much we are in denial about the evil that follows in our wake or how much we pridefully claim that we are "good" or "do good".

I'm surprised that Celine Dion isn't on that list.

Originally posted by Cosmic911

Originally posted by Alchemicflames
Without these people, we would've reached the 7 billion mark a while back ago.

So Machvialli, do the ends justify the means?

How say you?

Machiavelli?

Nonetheless. There will always be evil people, good people, scientific people, religious nuts, and the person/people in the midst of all the destruction that can agree and disagree on all sides of the field, and come to ends meet. The reasons behind the people killed is quite rutheless. But, I will tell you. Power helps corrupt the already corrupted. Greed corrupts the rest of the world. The hardest thing to do is to love thine enemy, for they are what they are, and anger is a part of the human emotional concepts

"Every prince should desire to be accounted merciful, not cruel; but a new prince cannot escape a name for cruelty, for he who quells disorder by a few signal examples will, in the end, be the more merciful."

Where's Mao?

Where's George Bush? Am I the only one who thinks he belongs on this list?

Originally posted by targeting
Where's George Bush? Am I the only one who thinks he belongs on this list?

Hardly. He's not even in the top 5 of worst presidents. In the last century Nixon and Johnson alone were WAY worse.

Originally posted by targeting
Where's George Bush? Am I the only one who thinks he belongs on this list?

As evil as I think the Bush clan is, and republicans in general, maybe this should be the top 20!

Originally posted by intrepid
I'm surprised that Celine Dion isn't on that list.

Hehe...she is listed as an alternate!

Originally posted by Alchemicflames

Originally posted by Cosmic911

Originally posted by Alchemicflames
Without these people, we would've reached the 7 billion mark a while back ago.

So Machvialli, do the ends justify the means?

How say you?

Machiavelli?

Nonetheless. There will always be evil people, good people, scientific people, religious nuts, and the person/people in the midst of all the destruction that can agree and disagree on all sides of the field, and come to ends meet. The reasons behind the people killed is quite rutheless. But, I will tell you. Power helps corrupt the already corrupted. Greed corrupts the rest of the world. The hardest thing to do is to love thine enemy, for they are what they are, and anger is a part of the human emotional concepts

"Every prince should desire to be accounted merciful, not cruel; but a new prince cannot escape a name for cruelty, for he who quells disorder by a few signal examples will, in the end, be the more merciful."

As eloquent as your post might seem, I still don't relate its content to the original concept of the post.

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I'll concur on that one...although he is a runner-up!

When considering matters of this nature, I think its essential to consider the fact, that although yes,
these men were some real scum, very "evil" , disconnected and lacking apathy or empathy for their fellow Human,

But, what about the millions of men that carried out these, repulsive crimes against humanity?

The millions upon millions, of seemingly "normal" people, from supposedly civilised 1940s Germany, to 90's Rwanda, Orders, propaganda, and disinformation, can incite the very worst imaginable hatred and persecution, against ones brothers and sisters.

Even today, the "Coalition of the willing" are shedding the blood of innocents on an industrial scale.

So, are they really anymore "Evil" than the rest of us? Or who's really at fault, the people that Order/Incite the mass killings?

Or the majority of us mugs that buy into the BS, and use our fingers for the triggers?

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing"

Okay, okay...I read through every post and only have one question......why isn't my mother-in-law listed? She should be in there someplace!

Also, where is Harry Truman? For nuking two densely populated cities.

Originally posted by intrepid

Originally posted by targeting
Where's George Bush? Am I the only one who thinks he belongs on this list?

Hardly. He's not even in the top 5 of worst presidents. In the last century Nixon and Johnson alone were WAY worse.

True but he's responsible for more deaths than delphine lalaurie and she made the list.

Originally posted by targeting
Where's George Bush? Am I the only one who thinks he belongs on this list?

Yes you are.

Unsurprising list there. I mean, there are others going back centuries before that could've made that list but just missed out because of whatever criteria the writers had.

Would've been interesting to compare and contrast and have a Top 15 or something. They say Dongzhuo was pretty ruthless too but who knows hwo many he actually had killed for his own pleasure.

Plus those who are regarded as highly successful and regarded warriors who killed on the battlefield in the name of peace or who simply enjoyed fighting (Guanyu/Guandi/Guanxi in the former camp and Lubu in the latter)

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Where's George Bush? Am I the only one who thinks he belongs on this list?

No you are not alone, in this thinking.

Bush has killed in Iraq an estimated range od 100,000 to 1,000,000 depending on whose survey you following.
en.wikipedia.org...

While this mightn't put him at the top he is certainly evil, but I think Dick Cheyney should be counted along with Dubya.


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In the last century Nixon and Johnson alone were WAY worse.

What about Andrew Jackson with his genocide of native americans, or an president that pushed the indian wars.

Genocide against native americans since america became the USA in 1776, ran for 142 years with the last one in 1918.
en.wikipedia.org...

If anything, I think this thread has demonstrated that evil takes many forms, transcends everyone and everything. Evil can be action, or inaction. It can be legal, or illegal, immoral and unethical. It can be war, the pursuit of peace, or in the name of medicine. Its in the eye of the beholder, right?

Right now, Joe Paterno is probably regretting some of his inactions right now. He wasn't responsible for those crimes, but some might argue he was morally obligated to alert the authorities. Or as someone said in a previous post, about Nazi soldiers just "following orders." How does the group mentality lead to "evil" actions?