A magnetic filament 700,000 km long from the sun could erupt next days when facing the Earth.The big

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It will not be humorus but, it will be profitable for those who do plan ahead.
It does not take alot to prep for a myriad of catastrophe.
And some you just cannot defend against.
For those who go overboard and buy a furnished cave, it might be overkill, but anyone can prep for a few months of hard times with the greatest of ease.
From there, enjoy and joke all you want.

Hmmm... after Elenin, YU55 and then 11/11/11 i thought "Yeah! No more doomsday threads!"... boy was i wrong. But then i realized they have to exist to keep us on our toes, keep us alert and ready for the destruction of the world as we know it! (/end sarcasm). Fear mongering at its finest.

Getting really hard to find something good on ATS between all those OWS and Doomsday threads.
Ahh...I remember a time on ATS where you'd find well constructed ufo threads at least once a week, threads on conspiracies that didn't make outrageous claims with no evidence to back up, some of the most interesting things about cryptozoology.... unfortunately this is getting so rare these days. All you see is "OWS this", "End of the World that", etc. I'm not saying these things shouldn't be discussed, it's just the manner in which they are discussed is getting pretty annoying. (/end rant)

Well back to Skyrim, hope all those bad EM waves don't fry my PC!

Good evening (from where I write this^^)

Just want to add something interesting about those "hyder flares" produced by the falling or ejecting of solar filament.It's coming from spaceweather.com... ; here is the exact link source from IPS in Australia : www.ips.gov.au...

X-ray flares and radio (microwave) bursts associated with the optical Hyder flare, are also generally long lived phenomenon and are classified as the gradual rise and fall type of event (in contrast to the impulsive and complex events associated with large active region flares).

Generally Hyder flares are not associated with energetic particle emission or geomagnetic storms (implying that they may not be associated with a coronal mass ejection). However, this is not always the case, as a large halo CME observed by the LASCO solar coronagraph on board the SOHO spacecraft was most definitely associated with a Hyder flare (2N/M1) observed on 12 September 2000. This same complex also appeared to have produced energetic protons at geosynchronous orbit with energies in excess of 100 MeV, and in substantial numbers at energies of 10 MeV. It is believed that the sudden storm commencement observed at 0450UT 15 September, and the subsequent minor geomagnetic storm was produced by this particular CME.

Hyder's explanation of the flare type now named after him depended on the observational evidence that (1) often the flare was a parallel ribbon flare with one ribbon each side of the filament channel, and (2) that geomagnetic storms were not associated with these flares. This led to the speculation that the filamentary material was not ejected far into the corona, but in fact fell back to the chromosphere producing the flare.

Of late, the Hyder mechanism has come into question. Some people (notably Zirin) have questioned whether infall occurs, stating that the magnetic reconfiguration must always produce ejection. The respective roles of flares and CME's in solar active processes has also been hotly debated, and this has implications for the exact mechanism of Hyder flares. We certainly have enough observational evidence to show that Hyder flares can be associated with both CME's and energetic particle production. For the moment, the question of Hyder flare production mechanism appears unresolved, and will probably be sidelined until the more significant (and undoubtedly related) issue of CME - flare production mechanism is sorted out.

The bottom line is that at this stage in solar physics we do not really know what produces a flare nor what produces a CME. There are competing theories, but all tend to have deficiencies with respect to matching the observational evidence. We certainly believe that they all depend on the reconfiguration of magnetic fields as their primary energy source, but in the final analysis, we really only believe this because we can conceive of no other solar energy source of sufficient magnitude.

I must admit that if this TITANIC filament produce some hyder flare (with some associated CME or not) , it will be for sure a very interesting show to observe and analyse for all scientists and physicists^^

Originally posted by bladebosq
Hmmm... after Elenin, YU55 and then 11/11/11 i thought "Yeah! No more doomsday threads!"... boy was i wrong. But then i realized they have to exist to keep us on our toes, keep us alert and ready for the destruction of the world as we know it! (/end sarcasm). Fear mongering at its finest.

Getting really hard to find something good on ATS between all those OWS and Doomsday threads.
Ahh...I remember a time on ATS where you'd find well constructed ufo threads at least once a week, threads on conspiracies that didn't make outrageous claims with no evidence to back up, some of the most interesting things about cryptozoology.... unfortunately this is getting so rare these days. All you see is "OWS this", "End of the World that", etc. I'm not saying these things shouldn't be discussed, it's just the manner in which they are discussed is getting pretty annoying. (/end rant)

Well back to Skyrim, hope all those bad EM waves don't fry my PC!

pls dont tell me you are only now aware of solar cycle 24

we have been warned by the major scientist around the globe now for years

and this is not a dooms prophecy..

only the unprepared will strive to survive

the rest will do ok..

western style..but ok

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I place the odds of a power grid killing shot within the next 2 years at 60%

this is not hyperbole or fear mongering .

Its common sense based on known science.
And intermingled with a creepy feeling in my stomach.

This is the latest picture of the prominence!

TextThis gigantic prominence graced the Southeastern rim today in its relentless march towards the Earth facing side of the Sun. Solar forums all over the world were buzzing with Sun-stronomers proclaiming that it was the biggest prominence that many of them had ever witnessed. This shot was taken at the Georgia Regional Astronomers Meeting at Agnes Scott College in Atlanta GA with a Lunt LS100 and an Imaging Source DMK21. The Earth was added for scale.

spaceweather.com...)source.




spaceweather.com...)source

Hello again

Diamondsmith , this image you just put in the last post is not taken from the filament we discuss since the beginning of this thread...It's clearly written by Spaceweather's staff :

There haven't been any strong solar flares in days. Nevertheless, some impressive activity is underway on the sun. For one thing, an enormous wall of plasma is towering over the sun's southeastern horizon. Stephen Ramsden of Atlanta, Georgia, took this picture on Nov. 11th

Remarkably, though, this is not the biggest thing. A dark filament of magnetism is winding halfway around the entire sun

From end to end, it stretches more than a million km or about three times the distance between Earth and the Moon. If the filament becomes unstable, as solar filaments are prone to do, it could collapse and hit the stellar surface below, triggering a Hyder flare. No one can say if the eruption of such a sprawling structure would be Earth directed.

This image is taken from a giant proeminence located southeastern on the sun and clearly visible on latest SDO images...Another big phenomen to observe proving that if the sunspots are quiet , solar activity on his surface is clearly increasing^^

I wonder why some data is missing?Maybe they didn't find the (nT) solution



source(www.lmsal.com...

pls dont tell me you are only now aware of solar cycle 24

we have been warned by the major scientist around the globe now for years

i'm aware of solar cycle 24, i'm also aware that power outages were caused by CME's. 1989 in canada, a CME tripped Quebecs power grid. When i say tripped, i don't mean fried. The effects caused by the electromagnetic field, distorted the grids voltage, tripping the safety devices, which took down the grid. 9 hours later the grid was back up again. these safety devices (circuit breakers, voltage relays, etc) probably weren't electronic and thus weren't affected by the CME.

this was in 1989, since then we have much more electronics, which are more sensitive to electromagnetic waves and depending on the devices characteristics (EMI Filter, EMC Shielding) and intensity of the cme COULD be fried. so if a power grid protected by electronic safety devices is hit by CME, these safety devices could malfunction and not shut the grid down properly, which could result in irreparable damage to the power grid.

dont know if its been typed before, but im to intoxicated to read it all sorry

ever wondered if something potentially BIG would happen and all the nuclear plants in the world would be out of control, kabloom bye bye world


peace and love,

pheniks

Spot 1346 M1.6 flare but not facing the Earth....yet!



Today's NOAA Active Regions
Number Location Hale McIntosh Area NSpots Events
11339 N19W91
(916",316") β/β Dso/Dai 0240/0360 03/11 C1.3(10:36)
C2.8(11:01)
/C1.2(06:09)
C5.2(09:18)
C2.6(17:32)
C2.7(18:26)
C1.8(19:42)
C4.2(23:42)
11340 S08W66
(878",-154") α/α Hsx/Hsx 0070/0080 01/01 -
11341 N09W43
(655",117") β/β Dso/Cso 0070/0080 07/07 -
11342 N17W56
(770",258") α/α Hsx/Hsx 0110/0150 01/01 /C4.1(15:54)
11343 N28W34
(480",420") α/α Hsx/Hsx 0070/0120 01/01 -
11344 S17W91
(926",-282") β/β Cso/Esi 0060/0240 03/11 C1.6(08:12)
11345 S24W79
(870",-402") α/β Hsx/Cro 0010/0030 01/03 -
11346 S18E32
(-490",-339") β/β Cso/Cso 0110/0110 03/02 M1.9(12:30)
11347 N08E19
(-313",90") β/β Cro/Cro 0030/0030 03/03 -
11348 N20W78
(892",322") β/- Dso/--- 0060/---- 12/-- M1.2(09:03)
11349 N15W10
(163",205") β/- Bxo/--- 0010/---- 03/-- -
11350 N26E59
(-748",403") β/- Dso/--- 0040/---- 03/-- -
11351 S23E43
(-610",-411") β/- Bxo/--- 0020/---- 05/-- -

source(www.solarmonitor.org...

Hello to all

So this monstruous filament has just erupted yesterday , losing about one quarter of his original size of 1 million kms , as Spaceweather's staff are writing on their site :

For the past few days, astronomers around the world have been monitoring a dark filament of magnetism sprawled more than 1,000,000 kilometers across the face of the sun. Make that 750,000 km. On Nov. 14th the filament snapped and flung a fraction of itself into space. NASA's Solar Dynamics Observatory recorded the action:

The eruption hurled a cloud of plasma into space, but not toward Earth. The only effect on our planet would be to disappoint observers hoping for a longer filament

In the same time the other proeminence southeast of the sun (picture in OP's message at top of this page) seems to be ready to erupt as well , so keep an eye on it!

Meanwhile, a wall of plasma towering over the sun's SE limb is seething with activity and may be poised to erupt as well.

spaceweather.com...

Erupting Filament

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Is that you or am i dreaming?Nooo it's George B.! the war against the sun!

Originally posted by diamondsmith
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Is that you or am i dreaming?Nooo it's George B.! the war against the sun!

No is picture of you in my dream ..

This is how everything begins!! And this time is no joke,believe me!

source(www.lmsal.com...

Hello

And this prominence in the southeast of the sun erupted as well yesterday :

A magnetic prominence dancing along the sun's southeastern limb became unstable on Nov. 15th and slowly erupted. NASA's Solar Dynamics Observatory recorded the event, which unfolded over a period of thirteen hours

The eruption hurled a cloud of plasma (CME) toward Venus. According to a forecast track created by analysts at the Goddard Space Weather Lab, the cloud should reach the second planet on Nov. 17th. Venus has no global magnetic field to protect it from CMEs. The impact will likely strip a small amount of atmosphere from the planet's cloudtops.

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Yes,thanks,but what about the Earth...could there be a big CME from that filament?I think Yes!

Good evening

So now after reading some fresh news on Spaceweather , I think you may be right Diamondsmith^^
This filament has already erupted on November 16th as I posted a few days ago but it's still there with an incredible size of 800000 km and now in front of our dear planet Earth.
Spaceweather's staff now saying it might "fall" on Sun surface (and not ejecting some stuff in space like the first eruption) creating an hyder flare (explained in my post on another page of this thread) and perhaps some big CME Earth-directed...
So just watch out if this "magnetic monster" decide to commit suicide falling on Sun's surface...

It's one of the biggest things in the entire solar system. A dark filament of magnetism measuring more than 800,000 km from end to end is sprawled diagonally across the face of the sun.

If the filament becomes unstable, as solar filaments are prone to do, it could collapse and hit the stellar surface below, triggering a Hyder flare. Indeed, part of the filament already erupted on Nov. 16th, but Earth was not in the line of fire when the twisted lines of magnetism snapped. A similar event today would likely be geoeffective because of the filament's central location on the solar disk.