Malaysian states plot laws against gays

TWO Malaysian states are considering passing laws that could punish gay Muslims and gay rights supporters with prison sentences, a regional minister said today.

"Homosexuality is against Islam. Men should look for women, not men. So that's why we don't want to follow this activity promoted by Western countries," Mohamad Ali Rustam, chief minister of southern Malacca state said.

The politician is a member of Prime Minister Najib Razak's ruling United Malays National Organisation party, which had announced plans in September to expand civil liberties and break with the country's authoritarian past.

"People are talking about human rights, but this is not right ... It's our duty (to stop it) but we cannot take action because there is no law," Mohamad Ali Rustam said.

Homosexuality remains a taboo subject in Muslim-majority Malaysia, where sodomy is punishable by up to 20 years in prison, and the mooted new proposition comes shortly after police banned an annual gay rights festival.

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While I am not a fan of the LGBT movement myself, I think this goes too far. One can understand that homosexuality is against Islam, but to actively prosecute and jail people based on their sexual orientation just seems wrong.

Thoughts?

Who cares?

It comes down to personal issues. If you're gay, straight, asian, black, white, amish, blue, purple, off white, grey, muslim, green, brown, yellow, jewish, indian....

Who cares? Stop caring.

We are all alive, its time we realized that life is here.

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Atleast these guys are open about it unlike western nations who try and ignore it.

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I agree. I am a Christian and know that homosexuality is a spiritual and therefore also a mental disease: Twenty three years as a hairstylist working with gays and lesbians has convinced me of this . But I would never condone the earthly punishment of it(I have my own sins also); judgement is not for me to pass.

I agree, i think homosexuality is wrong. Humans were not made for this... theres a reason for the opposite sex.

Originally posted by ghost33
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I agree. I am a Christian and know that homosexuality is a spiritual and therefore also a mental disease: Twenty three years as a hairstylist working with gays and lesbians has convinced me of this . But I would never condone the earthly punishment of it(I have my own sins also); judgement is not for me to pass.

By your logic religion is a mental and spiritual disease; which it is. Homosexuality is not however, its observable throughout nature.

Originally posted by ghost33
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I agree. I am a Christian and know that homosexuality is a spiritual and therefore also a mental disease.

You know this? After that post I'm surprised you even know how to tie your shoelaces, goof.

OP thanks for posting, unfortunately a lot of countries don't allow people to make the choices that make them happy, that includes being with someone of the same sex and there it that case there is no right or wrong. When it's about love there is no right or wrong.

Originally posted by ghost33
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I agree. I am a Christian and know that homosexuality is a spiritual and therefore also a mental disease: Twenty three years as a hairstylist working with gays and lesbians has convinced me of this . But I would never condone the earthly punishment of it(I have my own sins also); judgement is not for me to pass.

Ghost33 I'm gonna have to see some receipts because being a hairdresser and hearing about 3 people's life stories and pairing that up with religion makes you an incredibly biased and unfit candidate to make statements about the origin of homosexuality. I'm happy to say i've had a very fulfilling childhood though.

Originally posted by GLaDOS
I agree, i think homosexuality is wrong. Humans were not made for this... theres a reason for the opposite sex.

To the above poster, I am a 21 year old moroccan-dutch guy and comments like that disappoint me. It shows a certain level of ignorance that you're not even aware of.

At the end of the day it's all about what's in your head and how you choose to perceive a different situation, it's not up to the LGBT community to change close-mindedness, it's not our responsibility. All I got is love for y'all and hope my fellow humans abroad get the chains loosened in the next decade.

peace

And ? Your point is ? Western countries also enact repressive laws against homosexuals and discriminate against them.

Clean up your own yard before worrying about your neighbors yard..

Until people realise its idiotic to discriminate regardless of reason there will always be busybodies who try to dictate to everyone else how to live.. Doesnt matter where you go in the world.. Idiocy is everywhere..

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So would you rather Western countries followed suit and jailed people for being gay? Gay people living in the West are far better off than those living in countries such as Malaysia.

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The point is that Gay people living in the West should stop moaning about their alleged "lack of rights" and realise how lucky they are compared to Gay people living in countries such as Malaysia, Iran or Saudi Arabia.

Originally posted by Dark Ghost
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The point is that Gay people living in the West should stop moaning about their alleged "lack of rights" and realise how lucky they are compared to Gay people living in countries such as Malaysia, Iran or Saudi Arabia.

I guess it's lucky then that it's not illegal to be a bigoted idiot. If that is ever outlawed many would find themselves in the the same boat.

Jailing people who are only gay rights supporters? Wow. But why hasn't there been a gay led movement against Islam? Or against countries imposing Sharia?

Originally posted by mangojuice
OP thanks for posting, unfortunately a lot of countries don't allow people to make the choices that make them happy, .... When it's about love there is no right or wrong.

That same argument is made by guys who want to marry their cousin.

Or guys who want to sleep with the neighbor's wife---after all, when it's about love "there is no right or wrong."



Fail.