Where did this sudden fear of germs come from?.

Hi people!, i want this to be a questionable judgement as to why so many people actually fear non threatening germs that our immune systems can handle... i see Lysol commercials where they sell those "no pump" soap dispensers where you place your hand underneath it and it automatically gives you any amount of soap you need... and they say its good for your health and it helps to make a better and healthy environment.

Two flaws with this.

1). In a completely sterile environment your immune system gets weaker and you are more vulnerable to less dangerous viruses.

2). Your immune system was specifically designed to fight off billions of germs a day and even viruses.

I'm not saying have a bad hygiene... im saying its a little insane to be obsessed with germs WAY to much and anti-bacterial soaps dont help at all.. in fact i think they may mutate germs into antibiotic resistant bacteria.
Here is an article where it clearly states that anti-bacterial soaps may mutate bacteria and threaten your life or your families life.

www.thehomeopathiccollege.org... -offer-no-added-protection-from-bacteria.html
(link is too long)

It's not a "glorified article" as many of you claim... its through many testings done by independent governmental laboratories to determine if a product is essentially safe or fits the requirements of a specific standard.
Here is a video as well (its kind of old)

reply to post by ApplesOnFire


I guess the philosophy behind why people use a lot of soap and antiseptics is, "better be safe than sorry," despite an adequate immune system to fight off infection.

reply to post by Unvarnished


Well they think what they want....ill just stick with the results

My take on the 'sudden fear' is that isn't so much that the fear isn't unjustified. It's that folks need that fear to even take into consideration that they really, really follow basic hygiene at times. (Cold /flu seasonal, much less doctor/hospital visits or if you like, the mall, sporting events etc.)

Its not like society goes out of its way to make sure kids much less adults actually follow good basic hygiene practices. Seriously how many times do you see the signs that read, "Employees must wash hands...?"

'Statistically' speaking the world is over-due for an all out epidemic, we've just been lucky as heck.

M.

reply to post by Moshpet


3rd world countries mostly never use anti-bacterial soap or for that matter NO soap at all, where is your outbreak?

okay yes the swine flu was a close call but we managed to avoid it, but i dont think it started with people not washing their hands.

I think this is great evidence to show the power of advertising and corporations making their product fill a 'need'. A need that they create and scare us into believing.
I've never worried about this stuff and I never get sick.
I think this obsession with cleanliness will actually have very large effects on generations to come.
If you look at kids being born today; many conditions are in record numbers:
-allergies
-asthma
-disease
-low immune deficiency

People never look at the long term and let me tell you this will have a huge impact.
Our resilience to germs is what shaped us into the animals we are today. We don't have strong stomach acids like some animals, or some other tricky defence system.

Our immune system is about cure not prevention. Which means trying to prevent something is pointless.

reply to post by ApplesOnFire

At the risk of sounding like a horrible mother.. This is why I let my babies get dirty, why instead of boiling a dropped binky, I just brush the dirt off and pop it back in baby :p, why my house is clean but not sanitized daily, why I let my kids eat dirt (ok, not really, but I think my 2 year old has pica) and never boil water for their formula.

They rarely get sick, and when they do, its a real bad bug. But they fight it off and it rarely keeps them down longer than a day.

Im not an avid handwasher either. After bathroom and after I touch raw chkn, yes. Lol. But if me or my kids use a public bathroom.. No! I bet their butts are cleaner than the faucet! Public bathrooms scare me.


Also, hand sanitizer if drunk by a child can get them.. Well drunk!

We are not "nasty", I just dont freak out over every little thing.

And how is it "cross contamination" if I cut veggies with the same knife, on the same surface the meat just touched if its all going in the same pot

Originally posted by showintail

And how is it "cross contamination" if I cut veggies with the same knife, on the same surface the meat just touched if its all going in the same pot

If the veggies are to be cooked in with the meat, there is no issue.

It's when you, say, cut up a chicken breast, and then use the same knife to cut up an apple that you eat raw.

I'd have to agree with the OP, this over-cleanliness is likely leading to a decrease in our immune system. I, like the previous poster, will wash my hands after the bathroom or after handling raw meat, but other than that, I don't wash my hands all that often.

I'm more worried about getting chemicals and what not on my hands than germs. I vary rarely get sick, btw.

Drug companies...Big Pharma.

They have been inventing new illnesses since they realized they could make cures for them.

Many foods we eat have all the bacteria removed...that includes all the good bacteria. This means out immune systems are more open to attack. Then a company comes along with a plant extract that they sell you to make you better...for HUGE profits.

Germs are a money making scam. All this cleanliness actually does you more harm than good.
If there were no antibacterial cleaning products there would be far less ill people.

You have to get ill to become immune....by removing every trace of anything slightly bad we are destroying many years of evolution....for MONEY

reply to post by James1982


Yes, I do know real cross contamination. I had someone freak out once, when I was making stew, lmao.

Chemicals are more worrisome for me also, I swear my hands smell like cleaners even after I wash my hands repeatedly, yuck!

reply to post by WakeUpRiseUp


I agree with you 110% on this

Originally posted by ApplesOnFire
reply to post by Moshpet

 

3rd world countries mostly never use anti-bacterial soap or for that matter NO soap at all, where is your outbreak?

okay yes the swine flu was a close call but we managed to avoid it, but i dont think it started with people not washing their hands.

Here is the WHO's Disease Outbreak by year link www.who.int...

Currently I'm betting we're going to see something pop up like the Horse viri going around in Australia making the jump to humans as well. But hey, it does not take a 3rd world country for a bug to make the jump to humans and kill in large amounts.

M.

Originally posted by ApplesOnFire
reply to post by WakeUpRiseUp

 

I agree with you 110% on this

Its a sad state of affairs. I wish people could get over their sense of being to important or special to live happily and not worry about these things.
Its a sign of the times.

reply to post by showintail


Thank god I thought I was the only mother to think that way. I

reply to post by stinavamp


Well as long as you also stay away from "Ajax" Alternative powder bleach and Anti bacterials, you will be fine

The amount of products for keeping clean these days!! so mind boggling!

ya probably better of keeping dirty, safes the hassle and money.

na..

these antibacterial products wasn't around in the olden days.

If the fear is real..

"how the heck did we survive this long? specialist say "germs are more worse today!

how is this true?

we were rite dirty bast-ards back in the stone age, we didn't even where cloths and we didn't have fridge freezers.

Lack of knowledge? Closing ourselves indoor? Stories of the balck plague, the native americans, and the swine flu?

I am going to begin taking vitamin D3. I've heard good things.

Peace

reply to post by ImmortalThought


I dont know what vitamin D3 does but what ever makes you happy.. lol and what you said is true about people lacking the knowledge to understand this..

is humanity doomed by 2100? YEAH if we keep up the ignorance we will sentence our grand children to a 1000 years of hell and misery

reply to post by ApplesOnFire

reply to post by ImmortalThought


thanks for the vid i will check it out now =)

EDIT

wow very accurate info... i do drink alot of natural juices which contain Vitamin D or D3 and i never really questioned what it actually does...but to see that it REALLY works better than vaccines, it makes me happier that i never took a vaccine since 10 years ago.