Video: Truth about Hamas (son of founder speaks)

Mosab Hassan Yousef son of founder speaks about Hamas in Frankfurt. Amazing video tells the truth...

www.youtube.com...

reply to post by CountDrac


I can't watch the video.
A brief description would be appreciated.

Originally posted by CountDrac
Mosab Hassan Yousef son of founder speaks about Hamas in Frankfurt. Amazing video tells the truth...

www.youtube.com...

Tells the truth?


How about a bit more information in your OP? I'm not going to bother with the video. Somehow I dont feel that the son of the founder of Hamas is going to tell us the "truth" about much of, well... anything. Anymore than I would expect our own politicians to do the same....

reply to post by CountDrac


This is old news.

It was reported later on that he did it to gather sympathy for himself and infiltrate Hamas's 'enemies'.

He does really believe in Jesus Christ. Muslims and christians have that much on common even though their version of Christ is just a man when in the Bible and the Quran Christ claims to be God many times (didn't outright say "i am God", but i said "I AM..." many many times).

reply to post by lonewolf19792000

though their version of Christ is just a man when in the Bible and the Quran Christ claims to be God many times (didn't outright say "i am God", but i said "I AM..." many many times).

Jesus said "I am a servant of Allah".

and when God questioned him if he asked to be worshipped he said...
" 'Glory to Thee! Never could I say what I had no right to say..... Never did I say to them anything except what You commanded me to say: 'Worship God, my Lord and your Lord.' "

So.... just where have you been getting your information on Jesus in the Koran? Youtube videos?

Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
reply to post by lonewolf19792000

 

though their version of Christ is just a man when in the Bible and the Quran Christ claims to be God many times (didn't outright say "i am God", but i said "I AM..." many many times).

Jesus said "I am a servant of Allah".

and when God questioned him if he asked to be worshipped he said...
" 'Glory to Thee! Never could I say what I had no right to say..... Never did I say to them anything except what You commanded me to say: 'Worship God, my Lord and your Lord.' "

So.... just where have you been getting your information on Jesus in the Koran? Youtube videos?

Look up in the New Testament (but you wont if youre muslim cuz its considered blasphemy) how many times does Christ say "I AM" phrases. He said "I AM the turth, the way and the life", "I AM the resurrection", " I AM the light of the world".

One of Allah's titles is al'Haq and even in the Quran Christ says the same thing "I AM the truth, the way, and the life).

John 1:1-14 1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2The same was in the beginning with God.
3All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
4In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
5And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
6There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.
7The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.
8He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.
9That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
10He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
11He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
12But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe
on his name:
13Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
14And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.



John 14: 4-5 “‘And you know the way where I am going’. Thomas said to Him, ‘Lord we do not know where You are going, how do we know the way?’ Jesus said to him, ‘I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father, but through Me’

John 14:7 “‘If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; from now on you know Him, and have seen Him’

John 14: 8-9 Philip said to Him, ‘Lord, show us the Father, and it is enough for us’. Jesus said to him, ‘Have I been so long with you, and yet you have not come to know Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; how do you say, ‘‘Show us the Father’’?’”

So you see, even Philip, one of Christ's own disciples couldn't see who he was until Jesus posed that question in such a way as to enable Philip to make the connection. Jesus doesn't come right out and say "i am YHWH", he gives parables and lessons and he leads be being the living example. He is the living Word, and in the beginning the Word was with God and the Word was God. Our creator was walking amoung his people in the flesh and they couldn't see who he was. Jesus Christ is God in person. This was the miracle the Holy Spirit was testifying to.

I just recently came to this realization myself. For over 20 years i didn't know who he was. When the Holy Spirit showed me this summer i literally fell on my face as the ancients had when in his presence.

so he is ex-hamas and turned Christian which leads to one of the biggest mysteries...

why in the world do Christians support Israel??

Originally posted by Thermo Klein
so he is ex-hamas and turned Christian which leads to one of the biggest mysteries...

why in the world do Christians support Israel??

Because the jews are Christ's kinsmen and because christianity was born from judaism. In Jesus' day there were 3 sects of Judaism the Pharisees, Saduccees and the Essenes, yet only 2 sects are ever mentioned in the New Testament and they are the pharisees and saduccees. The New Testament is written from the perspective of the Essenes because they are the one sect that is never mentioned. Chrisitianity was born from the essenes, their ideologies are so similar and it was the essenes who prophesied the messiah would come 250 years before Jesus was born. The reason we support Israel is because Christ commanded us to preach the gospel to the jews before any others and that is a task we have been doing for 2000 years. We havent given up on them and some jews do accept him as do muslim. You don't have to be a christian to accept Christ as savior, if that were the case there would never have been any christians in the first place.

reply to post by lonewolf19792000

Look up in the New Testament (but you wont if youre muslim cuz its considered blasphemy

Jesus said "I am a servant of Allah"... and explicitly denies that he ever asked to be worshiped.

And no, muslims dont consider looking up the NT as "blasphemy"... they know what they are talking about, with regards to Jesus, because they know whats in the NT... and have a better understanding of the monotheistic culture thats all over the bible.

It appears that its the christians who consider it blasphemous to open up the Koran and read it with an open mind.

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Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
reply to post by lonewolf19792000

 

Look up in the New Testament (but you wont if youre muslim cuz its considered blasphemy

Jesus said "I am a servant of Allah"... and explicitly denies that he ever asked to be worshiped.

And no, muslims dont consider looking up the NT as "blasphemy"... they know what they are talking about, with regards to Jesus, because they know whats in the NT... and have a better understanding of the monotheistic culture thats all over the bible.

It appears that its the christians who consider it blasphemous to open up the Koran and read it with an open mind.

.

What youre not paying attention to is what Christ is saying in his messages. He said "I AM the truth, the life and the way, no one comes to the father but through me" He also says "I AM the resurrection" and "I AM the light of the world. All of these are God's titles. Why would he claim God's titles if he was not God. He even told Philip who he was by posing the question so as to lead Philip to the conclusion of his identity.

Muslims deny the truth that is right in front of their eyes because they do not throw out the crap Muhammad has filled their heads with.

The proof is in the book of Genesis itself and is shown in this link:

www.youtube.com...

Ofcourse i am sure you will deny even this because youre so sure of yourself and what you think you know. You can know the bible from front to back with your mind but if your heart isn't open to the truth the Holy Spirit will not reveal to you the truth. And muslims say christians are wrong!

reply to post by lonewolf19792000

What youre not paying attention to is what Christ is saying in his messages. He said "I AM the truth, the life and the way, no one comes to the father but through me" He also says "I AM the resurrection" and "I AM the light of the world. All of these are God's titles. Why would he claim God's titles if he was not God.

Jesus was simply saying "I am" to construct simple sentences... not as a way to claim himself to be God.

Jesus never said he was God, but christians living after his time somehow made that bizarre conclusion... and are now twisting verses to fit their theology.

Muslims deny the truth that is right in front of their eyes because they do not throw out the crap Muhammad has filled their heads with.

What truth? That Jesus is God, as christians believe? Nope, they deny it because Jesus never said that.

Muslims only deny the falsehoods that was established by those who built christian doctrine.
They are focussed on God, who Mohammad taught them to pray to. They do not see the mesenger as "divine"... Jesus also taught his followers to pray to God alone.*... however christians have turned Jesus into a diety.

* Remember the Lords prayer and the Shema.

Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
reply to post by lonewolf19792000

 

What youre not paying attention to is what Christ is saying in his messages. He said "I AM the truth, the life and the way, no one comes to the father but through me" He also says "I AM the resurrection" and "I AM the light of the world. All of these are God's titles. Why would he claim God's titles if he was not God.

Jesus was simply saying "I am" to construct simple sentences... not as a way to claim himself to be God.

Jesus never said he was God, but christians living after his time somehow made that bizarre conclusion... and are now twisting verses to fit their theology.

Muslims deny the truth that is right in front of their eyes because they do not throw out the crap Muhammad has filled their heads with.

What truth? That Jesus is God, as christians believe? Nope, they deny it because Jesus never said that.

Muslims only deny the falsehoods that was established by those who built christian doctrine.
They are focussed on God, who Mohammad taught them to pray to. They do not see the mesenger as "divine"... Jesus also taught his followers to pray to God alone.*... however christians have turned Jesus into a diety.

* Remember the Lords prayer and the Shema.

Youre totally throwing out the prophecy of Isaiah concerning Immanu'el, youre also throwing out what John the Baptist said about Jesus. There are so very many versus in the bible that allude to the true identity of Christ even the first 10 names in Genesis leave a secret message that God would come in the flesh. All the names from Adam to Noah. Half of the Old testament points directly to Jesus Christ being the messiah and Immanu'el "God in person". I can't make you see it because you do not have an open mind and frankly i'm tired of trying. Jesus really does say he is God, not with direct words but he does in fact allude to it.

John 14: 8-12: Philip said to him, "Lord, show us the Father, and it is enough for us." Jesus said to him, "Have I been with you so long, and you still do not know me, Philip? Whoever has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'? Do you not believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in me? The words that I say to you I do not speak on my own authority, but the Father who dwells in me does his works. Believe me that I am in the Father and the Father is in me, or else believe on account of the works themselves. Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever believes in me will also do the works that I do; and greater works than these will he do, because I am going to the Father."

"I am" sayings of Jesus:
www.answering-islam.org...

Here is an intersting link that explains it in detail far better than I can:

www.onenesspentecostal.com...

John 1:1-10 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome[a] it.
6 There was a man sent from God whose name was John. 7 He came as a witness to testify concerning that light, so that through him all might believe. 8 He himself was not the light; he came only as a witness to the light.

9 The true light that gives light to everyone was coming into the world. 10 He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him.

Jesus Christ is the living Word made flesh. He was there in the beginning! Can you still not see who he is?
Jesus is the Word! How can Jesus be with God in the beginning if God was only One? Because the spirit that was in Christ was YHWH.

John is telling you who Yeshua really is:

John 1:9-10 The true light that gives light to everyone was coming into the world. 10 He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him.

John 8:58 "Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM".

Ok, i am done, if you still don't get this you are beyond any help i can provide.

reply to post by lonewolf19792000

There are so very many versus in the bible that allude to the true identity of Christ even the first 10 names in Genesis leave a secret message that God would come in the flesh. All the names from Adam to Noah. Half of the Old testament points directly to Jesus Christ being the messiah and Immanu'el "God in person".

What you see as "secret messages" are just constructs of people reading things into whats actually there.

If you are convinced that the bible teaches that Jesus is actually God, its your call.
Be warned... The very concept of God coming to the earth in the flesh is IDENTICAL to what the hindus believe.

Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
reply to post by lonewolf19792000

 

There are so very many versus in the bible that allude to the true identity of Christ even the first 10 names in Genesis leave a secret message that God would come in the flesh. All the names from Adam to Noah. Half of the Old testament points directly to Jesus Christ being the messiah and Immanu'el "God in person".

What you see as "secret messages" are just constructs of people reading things into whats actually there.

If you are convinced that the bible teaches that Jesus is actually God, its your call.
Be warned... The very concept of God coming to the earth in the flesh is IDENTICAL to what the hindus believe.

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Hebrews 1:1-12 In the past God spoke to our ancestors through the prophets at many times and in various ways, 2 but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom also he made the universe. 3 The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word. After he had provided purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven. 4 So he became as much superior to the angels as the name he has inherited is superior to theirs.
The Son Superior to Angels

5 For to which of the angels did God ever say,
“You are my Son;
today I have become your Father”?

Or again,

“I will be his Father,
and he will be my Son”?

6 And again, when God brings his firstborn into the world, he says,

“Let all God’s angels worship him.”

7 In speaking of the angels he says,

“He makes his angels spirits,
and his servants flames of fire.”

8 But about the Son he says,

“Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever;
a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.
9 You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness;
therefore God, your God, has set you above your companions
by anointing you with the oil of joy.”

10 He also says, “In the beginning, Lord, you laid the foundations of the earth,
and the heavens are the work of your hands.
11 They will perish, but you remain;
they will all wear out like a garment.
12 You will roll them up like a robe;
like a garment they will be changed.
But you remain the same,
and your years will never end.”

Still dont see it? Still don't see where the Father addresses the Son as God and where the Son is to be worshipped and where the Son made the earth and the heavens?

Until you stop seeing with your eyes and start seeing with your heart youre going to miss out on the greatest gift ever given to us by God. Literally every book is laden with proofs of Christ's divinity and in him being our creator. Again, the Word is our creator and the Word is YHWH.

reply to post by sk0rpi0n

Be warned... The very concept of God coming to the earth in the flesh is IDENTICAL to what the hindus believe

And why cannot God come to earth in person? Did he not create the earth in the first place? Did he not walk with Adam in the cool of the day? Did he not show Adam the garden and tell him of the things he could eat and not eat and make him the govenor of all the beasts of the earth and birds in the air?

By you saying that God cannot come here in person you are admitting that God isn't as all powerful as he claims he is. The very idea is ludicrous. You don't even know where your faith originates from. The abrahamic faiths all originated from the Sumerians and the Enuma Elish that speaks of Enoch, for Enoch was a Sumerian as was Noah. Is this not the goal of ATS? To deny ignorance? Be enlightened. Bet you didn't know that God Almighty once had a different name. That name was Ahuramazda of the Sumerians semitic peoples. Yes, our religions originated from a multitheistic religion called Zoarastrianism.

reply to post by lonewolf19792000

You don't even know where your faith originates from. The abrahamic faiths all originated from the Sumerians and the Enuma Elish that speaks of Enoch, for Enoch was a Sumerian as was Noah. Is this not the goal of ATS? To deny ignorance? Be enlightened. Bet you didn't know that God Almighty once had a different name. That name was Ahuramazda of the Sumerians semitic peoples. Yes, our religions originated from a multitheistic religion called Zoarastrianism.

The Abrahamic faiths originates in God worshippers living waaaaaaaayyyyyy before any religion or book you mentioned existed. eg- Abel, as recorded in the bible. So, no... I dont agree with you that Abrahamic faiths originated from the Sumerians just because they wrote their book first.

In fact the Sumerians, like everybody else, got their concepts of God from the original monotheistic culture that was prevalent all over the world. The idol worship and rituals came much later. In other words, all religions have the same starting point... the Old Testament is just ONE record of this "starting point"... the Enuma Elish is another.

And you are wrong about God "once" having a different name....and that Ahura Mazda is semitic.
The one God was always known by many names across different cultures. Ahura Mazda is just ONE of them...Ahura Mazdia is concept of Zoroastrianism, which is NOT semitic in origin. en.wikipedia.org...

I believe the one God communicated with people all over the world.

reply to post by lonewolf19792000

And why cannot God come to earth in person? Did he not create the earth in the first place? Did he not walk with Adam in the cool of the day? Did he not show Adam the garden and tell him of the things he could eat and not eat and make him the govenor of all the beasts of the earth and birds in the air?

Exactly God did all of that. God also made all the angels, Jesus, and inspired all the other prophets. God works through them. So...

a) I dont see a reason why God has to personally come down to take care of business by himself. Which is why I believe religions that teach he will do so, are wrong in that aspect.
b) God never said that He Himself will come down to earth as a man.

I believe the only time we will ever directly see/hear our maker, is after we die and our souls leave our bodies.