If you could pick just "ONE" E.T picture that convinces you...

Originally posted by canDarian
reply to post by bhornbuckle75

 

True there would of course be varying sizes you would think but then again if they are doing genetic modification which one would assume they would be,most likely they would use a genetic template so basically physically identical,The reason I say taller is that gravity does indeed effect height low gravity worlds would produce significantly taller beings.

Astronauts spending minimal time in zero gravity can grow over 2 inches

I think you're misunderstanding a great many things here....The reason astronauts grow, is because they don't have gravity compressing the discs in their backs...they did not evolve in a weighltess atmosphere, therefore spending time in a weightless enviroment will certainly cause effects....the effects are not genetic though, they are simply what happens when humans that were evolved for a specific gravity, suddenly find themselves in a place of no gravity.

That aside, though...I'm still failing to understand why you are assuming that creatures that have evolved on a planet with less gravity would be tall. There is simply no logical reason to assume this...the only thing one could rightly assume is that creatures on a planet with less gravity could grow a bit taller than they could on earth simply because gravity would not have quite as much of a limiting factor on the size a creature could be and still be capable of pumping blood.....But such creatures would only grow tall if, and only if, there was some genetic advantage for the creature to be taller in the first place. Creatures having evolved on a planet with less gravity (assuming the planet had a biodiversity similar to Earth) would be of all sizes...From animals possibly larger than the Whales of Earth to creatures as small as insects.....I am at a loss to explain your assertion that the intelligent creatures from such a world should be tall...I'm not sure why cloning from a template helps your argument...You're just making the same assumption...That the Aliens would be tall. Why couldn't intelligent aliens evolve from smaller bipeds? The evolution of size on Planet Earth has nothing to do with the gravity of any specific area (which is the same for the most part the world over) but rather has more to do with resources and overall land mass. This is why creatures isolated on small Islands (including Homo floresiensis) generally evolve to be so tiny. There is no reason to assume anything about the size of the landmass that Aliens from another world would have evolved on...Nor is there any reason to make assumptions about the amount of resources they had.

reply to post by Blue Shift


You never know. Whose to say what ET life looks like biped humanoids? Maybe that is where we got the idea for our technology. Never know.

reply to post by Imtor


I didn't see an answer, but maybe I missed it. Here's the detail and a better pic.

With Wave UFO, a sort of gigantic drop fiberglass raised above the ground, Mariko Mori continued his questions about the relationship between the individual and the cosmsos. Wave UFO project was set up after 3 years of research. Its dynamic shape is halfway between a sculpture and a large biomorphic architecture. This work combines art, science, performance, music and architecture in a total work of art. Mariko Mori is involved in the project's Wave UFO new technologies for synthetic graphics and video projections, which help develop the artistic experience at its peak.

Artist Mariko Mori

I was going to say UFO artists need to burn but it's not their fault even a dish where you put your meal can be turned into a flying saucer... Thanks for finding these pics' source. Now what about the 3 grey aliens from the reddish photo is there an original?

Originally posted by this_is_who_we_are

Originally posted by Imtor
reply to post by IsaacKoi

 

Ok that proves it, good job, I suppose the second one goes to the same group since it is similar. Any info about the third one? Though the body of the second 'alien' looks not thin and elongated at all and somehow humanly, makes me think these are masks.

What about these:

Where are they from?

edit on 11-11-2011 by Imtor because: (no reason given)

They are from here:
www.thewatcherfiles.com...

FYI, that source link you provide can be debunked from top to bottom. No kidding. Here's just one example but I'm happy to show others just don't feel like posting a ton of pics right now.

The Dulce Base of New Mexico? Nope those pics are from Stockholm, Sweden's Subway System. That blogger, over on the TheWatcherFiles, is intentionally blurring pics.

Not an alien, just one of ten police polaroids of an object overhead taken in front of witnesses in Puerto Rico, 1980:



case info

If it's a hoax, it was likely perpetrated by whomever built and operated the thing.

I've frequently wondered why UFOs are often described as "cigar-shaped". Though I admit that this one does bear a striking resemblance:

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/3cdf96263c36.jpg[/atsimg].

Originally posted by jerryznv
Ya...permission denied...cannot view the photo....way to check you link before you start a thread OP!!!

Better luck next time!!!

"Wow...no punches pulled there aye?

Typical ATS attitude lately...the bar is slowly going down....imagine that!"

cannot explain these skulls or how they are related, or Not, to us.







The world is not what it seems..

reply to post by truthinfact


Skull reshaping...binding skulls as infants...

link

reply to post by Cosmic911


I can't help but feel like that is the easy way out..


Really some of these strange skulls don't look like they can be explained by modification, only nature.

I say decide for yourself.




Also your article refers to peruvian skulls, i believe the second one of my pictures was found in Egypt

Originally posted by Imtor

Filename: alienskm.jpg

Hey Imtor, thanks for using my pic that I got from the Commander X video. I was going to put in in this thread. Sorry everybody, but this is the most real on this thread.

I will include a picture not released on any forum yet to my knowledge. It's another "Dulce" photo, recently put out by the "best friend" of Thomas Castello.

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(if anybody can help my pic will not post unless I have the extra [img bracketts around it, I posted the problem on the help forums)

Originally posted by truthinfact
reply to post by Cosmic911

 

I can't help but feel like that is the easy way out..


Really some of these strange skulls don't look like they can be explained by modification, only nature.

I say decide for yourself.


Also your article refers to peruvian skulls, i believe the second one of my pictures was found in Egypt

I don't think it matters where the skulls were found, its the point. I agree with you that a lot of the skulls do indeed appear strange...no denying that. And maybe they are something other than what we suspect? I won't deny you that. But nature and biology, has played many a disturbing pathological game with the human species. There are so many rare and not so rare cranial and medical malformations you would be surprised. I don't think its the easy way out at all. Talk to a neonatologist. Body malformations are well documented and backed by medical science...its objective and quantifiable.

Originally posted by greyer
I will include a picture not released on any forum yet to my knowledge. It's another "Dulce" photo, recently put out by the "best friend" of Thomas Castello.

If you found the photo online, can you give a link?

If everyone that is posting a photo could say where they found it, it would massively cut down the amount of time required to look into them.

reply to post by Voldster

Still waiting for that one pic in this thread that will convince me..

About once a week someone comes on here asking for that one photograph to prove or convince them that Aliens exist. Unfortunately they never get their wish. If the single piece of evidence existed then there would be no debate. Some are just not going to believe no matter what evidence is presented. My suggestion is that whether aliens exist is a case of circumstantial evidence. You have to look at the totality of the evidence. After doing so you either believe or you don't. But don't expect anyone on this thread to show a single photograph or piece of evidence to convince you. It just isn't there.

Originally posted by Blue Shift

Originally posted by Xtrozero
Its the picture where ET made his finger glow that did it for me.....

I'll have you know I got cancer from that glowing finger. Turns out it was highly radioactive.

Those little bastards....but hey, it would be a one stop shop for prostate checks and treat the cancer all at once. Even good can come out of an evil little finger....

Originally posted by IsaacKoi
If everyone that is posting a photo could say where they found it, it would massively cut down the amount of time required to look into them.

edit on 12-11-2011 by IsaacKoi because: (no reason given)

When posting those pics, my question was if they belong to some artist, as you can find them basically on any fansite containing 'ufo' in its address along with completely fake images. So thanks those of you who showed me the original pictures, those from which these I posted were modified.

I undererstimated the ability of Photoshop to make a crystal clear picture look old, blurry and as if from the 60s-80s.

And I do not think you really need a link for those specifically because they are like, everywhere.

Originally posted by greyer

Originally posted by Imtor

Filename: alienskm.jpg

Hey Imtor, thanks for using my pic that I got from the Commander X video. I was going to put in in this thread. Sorry everybody, but this is the most real on this thread.

I will include a picture not released on any forum yet to my knowledge. It's another "Dulce" photo, recently put out by the "best friend" of Thomas Castello.

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(if anybody can help my pic will not post unless I have the extra [img bracketts around it, I posted the problem on the help forums)

edit on 12-11-2011 by greyer because: (no reason given)

More real? This one specifically looks to me like Halloween or just prank masks. If you look at the body of the one in the middle it looks like human arms and body, nothing like the long elongated bodies with skinny arms..

The second picture, could be another joke like the ones I posted from 1940s that turned out to be all hoax. Either way, I don't know what's going on it.

An example of 'Dulce base' pictures that looked credible are like here:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Then scroll down a little bit and a guy on another forum exposed the hoaxer:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

I would say this is 'Dulce base' like these here right.,

Originally posted by Shadoefax
I've frequently wondered why UFOs are often described as "cigar-shaped". Though I admit that this one does bear a striking resemblance:

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/3cdf96263c36.jpg[/atsimg].

Heh, that really is a flying cigar right?

As for being cigar shaped, if you have an object with a similar shape to a typical flying-saucer disc, when you look at it on a slight angle from the edges it will appear almost cylindrical with a bulge, giving the appearance of a cigar. I think most of the cigar-shaped sightings are the persons perspective at the time (most possibly a disc).

Either that, or they could be witnessing cylindrical like objects.


(edit) Also:
This picture has always interested me, it does seem rather odd (in fact i remember there being a video somewhere, i just can't remember the location of the recording).


No idea if this was "debunked" as swamp gas (yada, yada)... but it intrigues me because it is unusual, the height of the being for example.

I tend to think alot of "ET" photos, where they appear to resemble the exact same build/height as your average human are hoax' most of the time. Think about it, these beings (if they really are visiting) came from another planet, the gravity would be different as one example... which is why i don't think they would grow in the same way as we do (such as height).

Originally posted by InsideYourMind

Originally posted by Shadoefax
I've frequently wondered why UFOs are often described as "cigar-shaped". Though I admit that this one does bear a striking resemblance:

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/3cdf96263c36.jpg[/atsimg].

Heh, that really is a flying cigar right?

The first thought when hearing the "cigar" description in relation to a "UFO" - particularly in the last decade or two - is the possibility of a solar balloon.


Some "solar balloons" (which can be bought commercially or make from garbage bags) are shown in the videos below.





Solar balloons aren't reported as UFOs with the same frequency as Chinese Lanterns, but are worth knowing about when dealing with reports of "cigar" or "cylinder" shaped UFOs.

They (like Chinese Lanterns) have become increasingly available in various shops in the United Kingdom.

reply to post by Just Chris


This photo was taken back in 1965 in California.




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