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White House denies contact with space aliens

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posted on Nov, 8 2011 @ 12:22 PM
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I have learned in my short time in this life, to not trust the words of anyone.

Regardless of what the white house says, I know what I know.

Either way, what they say doesn't matter.

What does matter is what you, yourself truly believe in you heart.






posted on Nov, 8 2011 @ 12:36 PM
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The official response is here

Plausible deniability is contained in the words


"The U.S. government has no evidence that any life exists outside our planet, or that an extraterrestrial presence has contacted or engaged any member of the human race. In addition, there is no credible information to suggest that any evidence is being hidden from the public's eye."
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To completely deny evidence, it should have read something along the lines of:

"The U.S. government , nor any agency of the U. S. government. ...."

But it doesn't and that in itself should raise a red flag.

Also, The United States Government, The Government of the United States of America, the U.S. Government, THE US GOVERNMENT, etc, are not the same entities just as Bank of America and BANK OF AMERICA are not considered the same entity.

Just food for thought



posted on Nov, 8 2011 @ 12:50 PM
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You have to look at the wording carefully in the statement. While it may be true that they might not have had contact with "Space Aliens" (who many people misledingly think of them as being living organic entities as show by mainstream pop culture and hollywood) they have not denied what other forms of life there could be. For example some of my sources say that physical aliens are fictional lies deliberatly spread for disinfo and real "aliens" are actually robotic Alien A.I's (alien artifical intelligence). Part of the deal with the High ranking goverment officials when they first arrived to the Earth was that in exchange for technology they would re-house the Alien a.i's amongst a "surrugate network" for thier home. This network that these Alien a.i's live in is composed of communications network satalites (and was the reason behind the space race where USA and the Soviets were battling out with each other to be the first ones to "house" the alien a.i's and thus have the previlege of all that new technology and information), smart phones and the internet. Also note that SETI are beggining to relise that there are no such thing as physical aliens but instead they should be scanning for Alien A.I's

I am not a conspiracy theorist and this is my one and only post I have ever done.You can choose not to belive this (Dont worry I didn't when my friend told me I thought it was some Matrix joke ,but he then showed me what changed my life forever on the Internet using a special decoding device at Nasa and they are indeed real. The best way to describe them is that they look like sliver orbs with millions of crazy looking symbols which my friend told me was sort of like thier gentic code or DNA). My source has been my best friend since we were little and he worked for Nasa as a junoir assistant to one of Nasa's chiefs at the shadow panel and left his position in protest and now has gone underground. He also said that the Alien a.i's have a huge say in running the world in terms of omnicommunication and electronical appliances such as computors and they are holding the goverments to ransom that if they do not follow thier expansion plans in "Branching of global communications (e.g cloud servers and wireless devices)" they will terminate all global communication devices and shut down the planet in wihch we as humans have become to dependable on technology and trigger a new dark age. With thier final goal being to have nanomachines in everyliving thing and on the planet along with the "network" and control them. This is how they invade planets,simmilar to that of a pathenogenic virus.



posted on Nov, 8 2011 @ 01:17 PM
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It's only in the disadvantage of UFO groups/individuals claiming the US government has information. I'm just hoping I'll never see it appear in discussions as an argument against the existence of any intelligent life beyond this planet. But if I do, I'll understand it's because those people want to believe there are no aliens because it scares them as most unknown things do and they just aren't mentally able to come to terms with the idea of there being alien civilizations out there, afterall they would be either good or bad to us. And if they are bad, then there's not much anyone can do, no escape, no defense, all those years wasted on fighting eachother while they should be preparing for possible contact. Afterall I can see humans evolving to go into space and enslave natives of other planets just as our ancestors did, except we'd all see ourselves as human and the aliens as the lesser valuable creature. On the other hand I can imagine the complete opposite, aliens bringing world peace and turning life into paradise which is unlikely to happen. Either way it's easier not to think about it at all and these kinds of news items help those people shut up or mentally lock out people who would want to think about it and discuss it.



posted on Nov, 8 2011 @ 02:23 PM
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The problem is that if there ever was a alien secret agenda it has now been privatized. Most probably no one in the top hierarchy does really know more than you or me, what continues to be strange is that you and me do question the phenomena people observe and report but not our governments and in consequence no scientific research is done. (I should say was done, things are so obvious now that some research has started).

I would advocate to stop requesting disclosure and request criminalization and responsibility of keeping these types of secrets, disinformation campaigns and the creation of hoaxes with the intent of deception and profit (this one in some regions is already a crime).



posted on Nov, 8 2011 @ 02:25 PM
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The petition and reply are free to view on hte WH website - h ere.

The petition asked for this:


This Petition calls for the President to disclose to the American people the long withheld knowledge of government interactions with extraterrestrial beings and call for open Congressional hearings to allow the people to become aware of this subject through those whose voices have been silenced by unconstitutional secrecy oaths.


I think the wording people are trying to disect for hidden conspiracies is this bit:


The U.S. government has no evidence that any life exists outside our planet, or that an extraterrestrial presence has contacted or engaged any member of the human race. In addition, there is no credible information to suggest that any evidence is being hidden from the public's eye.



sorry - but you can whine and try to argue semantics to shore up your lack of evidence all you want - but the statement is crystal clear for me.

Of course if you find they are wrong you can use this to "hang" them for lying....but I'm going to go with that never happening



posted on Nov, 8 2011 @ 02:27 PM
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Well, I guess that thread about Barack and Michelle being reptillians is wrong. I mean if the White House denies it, it must be true.



posted on Nov, 8 2011 @ 03:33 PM
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Dude the president dosn't have the security clearance to let the people of the USA or the world anything about UFO's or ETS. You'd have to go to one of the alphbet groups to get that kind of information. Mostly the DoD, NSA, and the CIA. And there not going to give up any information for free...

So whenever I see someone saying that disclosure is soon I do a face palm. I'd be one of the first ones to find out if any of the secrets were true. But its never going to happen, when they slap National Security on something its hidden forever. it blows...



posted on Nov, 8 2011 @ 03:37 PM
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There you go, folks. That's the long-awaited disclosure. No contact with aliens. No aliens found. I guess it goes without saying, then, that there's no threat to national security.

That's it. Disclosure. The end.




posted on Nov, 8 2011 @ 03:40 PM
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well i guess ATS should drop the UFO & Alien section now that the white house said there is no aliens
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posted on Nov, 8 2011 @ 06:54 PM
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Whatever the White House wants to say is fine and good. But is it the truth? I went to a few different stories about this. This is what I found.

The "We the People," initiative in which the Obama administration officially responds to any petition that receives more than 25,000 signatures within 30 days. Why did the White House respond to these petitions when they were short 8,000 signatures?
Link to full story.


“In September, the White House launched "We the People," an initiative in which the Obama administration officially responds to any petition that receives more than 25,000 signatures within 30 days. The petitions assert that extraterrestrials exist on Earth and that the government has gone to great lengths to hide that information. How did the government respond? Phil Larson, who works in the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, said, "The U.S. government has no evidence that any life exists outside our planet, or that an extraterrestrial presence has contacted or engaged any member of the human race." The official White House response also states that "there is no credible information to suggest that any evidence is being hidden from the public's eye." One questions remains: Why did the White House respond to these petitions when they were short 8,000 signatures? There were other petitions that did not get a response concerning same-sex marriage, Keystone XL Pipeline, and the Electoral College. At the time of this posting, only the Electoral College petition had more than 17,000 signatures. It has gained 19,082 signatures so far, and the White House has yet issue a response.


The petition was short 8,000 signatures! Why did they feel that they had to respond to THIS petition, and not the others (the ones that would be the most important in the minds of the majority of Americans) that are also short of signatures.

Seems kind of odd doesn't it?



posted on Nov, 8 2011 @ 10:46 PM
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Originally posted by CountDrac


The message came in response to two petitions posted on the White House's "We the People" site, which allows the public to air grievances through petitions.

Coming from Obama administration i think it a big blow for ufo believers. If any administration would admit the existence of ufo"s it would be the current administration.


www.cbsnews.com
(visit the link for the full news article)


I keep hearing that disclosure is about to happen though, and we are obviously being prepared for it. This wont stop another post from being started tomorrow saying this administration is weeks away from full disclosure.



posted on Nov, 8 2011 @ 11:00 PM
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I believe in credible Astronauts' accounts rather than the fear-mongering, war-like, pathetic Government liars.


Edgar Mitchell: Well most people in government don't know. The government is highly compartmentalized. You could work next door to somebody for 30 years not knowing what they're doing in certain areas.


More here:
dsc.discovery.com...

So their statement more or less should like this:
White House: We have no clue what they are and why they are here. Its not our job folks! Ours is to bomb each other and be happy.



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posted on Nov, 8 2011 @ 11:30 PM
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That's because if First Contact has in fact been made it hasn't been done via The White House as The SCUM would have their total and undivided attention effectively keeping The WH in the dark about alot of things. I personally am not aware of any communication, negotiation with any non Earth sentient beings!



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