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Can we just have a thread where we can all pray together?

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posted on Nov, 7 2011 @ 02:25 PM
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Because prayer is just meditation gone retarded.

Because religion is evil.

Because it makes no sense that there is a religious section of ATS outside of 'conspiracies in religion'.

Because there are actual religious and faith-based websites such people can go to to request prayer.



posted on Nov, 7 2011 @ 02:25 PM
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Originally posted by Balkan
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Was I speaking to you?


Is this middle school???? Are you serious?!?

You come to a thread, discussing the placement of the thread in a specific forum, and then have the nerve to respond like a child when your off topic post was addressed??



posted on Nov, 7 2011 @ 02:26 PM
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Originally posted by Garfee
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Because prayer is just meditation gone retarded.

Because religion is evil.

Because it makes no sense that there is a religious section of ATS outside of 'conspiracies in religion'.

Because there are actual religious and faith-based websites such people can go to to request prayer.





Then start your own thread. Stop trolling another mans thread.



posted on Nov, 7 2011 @ 02:27 PM
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How is responding to someone elses remark about this being a prayer request off topic? I couldn't care less if you pray or not. Have any more juvenile insults to throw my way?



posted on Nov, 7 2011 @ 02:27 PM
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Originally posted by Garfee
reply to post by gimme_some_truth
 


Because prayer is just meditation gone retarded.

Because religion is evil.

Because it makes no sense that there is a religious section of ATS outside of 'conspiracies in religion'.

Because there are actual religious and faith-based websites such people can go to to request prayer.





Who is forcing you to pray with the OP? No one. The invitation was put out there to pray... If you don't want to. Don't.

but really. To sit here ridiculing others for their belief is gross. The OP has every right to be here and owes no one a justification for being here.

I wont make fun of your beliefs... Leave others alone for believing what they do.

You don't like the religious forums? Take it up with the STAFF. Not the OP.....


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posted on Nov, 7 2011 @ 02:29 PM
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Exactly. As I replied to them, I have every right to reply to them. If they can't handle my replying, maybe they should stick to blogging.



If they don't want to accept the OP's invitation to pray with them, then don't....

But come on.. To see so many people ridiculing the OP for their belief and posting off topic things about whether the thread should be moved or even exist... It's gross.



posted on Nov, 7 2011 @ 02:30 PM
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Hey, I know exactly how you feel.Seriously, it all comes down to the good fight.
Do you believe you are a good person?
Do you believe that your values are good and live by them?
Do you sway away the best you can from temptations?

I have been really tough times, many times I could have just gave up.
And I know I will fall again, who doesn't. We get back up, fight the good fight till then end...and you win!



posted on Nov, 7 2011 @ 02:33 PM
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Originally posted by Balkan
reply to post by gimme_some_truth
 


Was I speaking to you?


Ask me if I care.


If you can't handle me replying, try blogging.


People are attacking the OP for daring to believe and it is shameful. That is not what ATS is about... People demanding the OP justify their membership? Ridiculing them for believing differently?

Honestly, It's gross. They have every right to believe and for them to be attacked for having their own belief? So much for freedom of religion, I suppose.

Are we not adults? The OP can believe what they want. If you don't want to pray, then don't. But have some decency and quit ridiculing the OP for believing.

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posted on Nov, 7 2011 @ 02:34 PM
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Of course the OP can be at this site, I just have no bloody idea why there has to be a religious or faith-based forum. Considering that, you know, their fake god hates my guts and they use it to keep certain rights from me.

So, suck it.



posted on Nov, 7 2011 @ 02:35 PM
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Why are you explaining your position to me? I didn't ridicule the OP, I only replied to someone else and to your snarky comment you threw my way when I wasn't even responding to you. Beat your chest and roll your eyes all you want, Conan, it makes no difference to me.



posted on Nov, 7 2011 @ 02:36 PM
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Originally posted by Garfee
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Of course the OP can be at this site, I just have no bloody idea why there has to be a religious or faith-based forum. Considering that, you know, their fake god hates my guts and they use it to keep certain rights from me.

So, suck it.


Again, if you don't like the fact that their are religion based forums, take it up with the STAFF. Not the OP.

Are you expecting the OP to be able to do something about that?

As for that last little jab you took... Honestly... Grow up.



posted on Nov, 7 2011 @ 02:37 PM
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Reading comprehension... look into it.



posted on Nov, 7 2011 @ 02:38 PM
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Originally posted by Balkan
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Why are you explaining your position to me? I didn't ridicule the OP, I only replied to someone else and to your snarky comment you threw my way when I wasn't even responding to you. Beat your chest and roll your eyes all you want, Conan, it makes no difference to me.



I am explaining my position to you because as a member of this site, I have every right to do so. Is that a problem? Well, again, if you don't like people talking to you, then maybe you should not be on a forum.

My comment is snarky? How dare I stand up for the OP's right to believe in God.





posted on Nov, 7 2011 @ 02:38 PM
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Originally posted by theRhenn

Originally posted by Doomsday 2029
THERE IS A REASON FOR EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!


I don't care who your God is.... there is a reason for everything!!!!!

NOTHING JUST HAPPENS!!!!!



I'm sorry Doom. I cant believe everything happens for a reason. Once I believed this, but I just cant see so much misery being that is just supposed to happen. I ponder this because so many Christians who believe with all their heart and soul, even those that look and never find the answer, have lost so much that I personaly feel, not all of them deserve. I simply cant feel that people have to go through so much hell on earth to have paradise in the end. I cant prove one way or the other, and yes, perhaps I feel I've just fallen out of grace, but so many unsanswered questions and so much suffering, I just cant see it as something that must take place. How is that fair to Christians?


I'm not denying that you are right, and cant say that you're wrong. I just cant find this in my own life and the lives I've seen. So many prayers unanswered, so many rich churches and preachers, yet their flock starves, looses their homes and remain in poverty. Sure, they may have more worth in their faith, but so many who believe find it really hard to get by each day and faith will fail for many. I've heard people say, "if your prayers arnt answered, then it's not God's plan for you". What happen to free will? Is this perhaps the reason? Due to the free will of others, many will not find their own happyness...

Anyways, doom. Nice thread. I'm sorry I cannot find the light in your words. Perhaps my soul is just too cloudy from the life I lived. (shrugs) Yet I still search... as wearysome as it seems. As lost as I've become.. I search still.




At times.... I feel the same way you do.

I just want people to understand that we're all in this together....


Life is Short.... LIve it while you can....


I lost my job.... I lost my marriage.... But I'm still alive..... and I believe in God.


And I pray to to God....


ya know what.... Jesus is a tough subject.... My goal in this thread is not to convert people to Christianity....
but rather inspire people that there is a God, and that there is a Devil.


Maybe the biggest enemy you'll ever face in your lifetime is yourself.



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posted on Nov, 7 2011 @ 02:39 PM
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Originally posted by Balkan
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Reading comprehension... look into it.



Insults are the last resort of a desperate man.



If you have a problem with me standing up for the OP's right to believe in a god... Tough.

Oh and for the record, I am a writer for a living... Nice attempt at an off topic attack though.


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posted on Nov, 7 2011 @ 02:39 PM
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Well I guess I have the OP and people like you to thank for turning this website into what it is today.

Maybe I'll go to jesus.com and start a thread about JFK.



posted on Nov, 7 2011 @ 02:41 PM
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Originally posted by Garfee
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Well I guess I have the OP and people like you to thank for turning this website into what it is today.

Maybe I'll go to jesus.com and start a thread about JFK.




People like me?


I have said many times in this thread I don't believe in God.

If you can't handle these forums either don't go into them and participate, or maybe mention it to the staff.... Attacking the OP is not going to help anything and you know it.

Honestly, grow up.
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posted on Nov, 7 2011 @ 02:41 PM
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Originally posted by gimme_some_truth
I am explaining my position to you because as a member of this site, I have every right to do so. Is that a problem? Well, again, if you don't like people talking to you, then maybe you should not be on a forum.

My comment is snarky? How dare I stand up for the OP's right to believe in God.



Self-projection. Google it. You might learn something about yourself.



posted on Nov, 7 2011 @ 02:43 PM
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If you can't handle religious discussions Don't post. Simple really.

I don't even believe in God. I will defend any ones right to believe in a God.

If you don't like it, feel free to report me.


Again, the OP has every right to believe as they do. This thread has every right to exist. If the mods want to move it, they will.

So, let me know when you want to get back on topic. I will be happy to discuss the topic at hand with you.


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posted on Nov, 7 2011 @ 02:48 PM
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You support them mate, that makes you part of it.

These people think I am a filthy sinner just for existing so no, I do no accept that they should be allowed to have a stake in every, single corner of the internet. The same forum to preach their god's eternal love and also their horror at everything that isn't covered in a doily and prostrating itself in front of christian alter.

Their crap is all over the new topics page sometimes.

Sorry that the fact I have had a absolute gutsfull of their rubbish offends your sense of freedom to speak one's mind but they do all the time and it's hardly very nice to hear.



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