Potential Impact Zone & Time of Asteroid 2005 YU55 Defined On Google Earth and Government Documents

reply to post by camaro68ss


There won't be any "impact zone".
Asteroid 2005 YU55 is not on the same plane as earth's orbit!

See this image:

reply to post by webpirate


I´m not an Expert,but there is one thing that bothers me a little about the "Calculated" Path of YU55.
If that thing comes closer than the Moon,shouldn´t its Path change,at least a little,due to Earths gravitational pull?

I find the Animation of its Path quite odd if that isn´t beeing considered...

Originally posted by tomten
reply to post by camaro68ss

 

There won't be any "impact zone".
Asteroid 2005 YU55 is not on the same plane as earth's orbit!

See this image:

Exactly. Although it does cross the moons orbit, but a good distance behind the moon. Which is why the uncertainty is at a 1.

reply to post by Shenon


It's size is too small for it to have it's own gravitational influence to either the Earth or the moon. Also, it's still pretty far out from both the Earth and Moon to really be pulled in any.

Originally posted by webpirate

Originally posted by tomten
reply to post by camaro68ss

 

There won't be any "impact zone".
Asteroid 2005 YU55 is not on the same plane as earth's orbit!

See this image:

Exactly. Although it does cross the moons orbit, but a good distance behind the moon. Which is why the uncertainty is at a 1.

Naa...
YU55 is passing at a safe distance Above booth Earth and Moon's orbit.

See it like this.
We have a ten story building.
The Earth and the Moon, resides on floor 3 to 5.
And YU55 is passing thru on floor 8.


The uncertanty is just a number of the precision in NASA's calculation.
It is a very small object.
The smaller it is, the harder it is to predict the trajectory accuratly.

My guess on this is that NASA/US gov have some suspicions that YU55 has a slight chance of hitting earth. So they are taking appropriate precautions.

The “TEST” of the national emergency announcement would be a perfect cover if it doesn’t hit, they say it was just a “test”. Nothing to see here and everyone goes about their lives being none the wiser of what “could have been. Sometimes I wonder how many times nuclear war has been barely avoided meanwhile were all continuing on with our unconcerned daily lives…

If it does hit everything is scheduled ahead of time and everyone is in their places so the “test” could easily turn “into” the real deal as we have seen at least twice before…

The reason for this is to be as prepared as possible for an event that is not avoidable without alerting the public and causing possible panic/chaos if indeed the event doesn’t take place.

I think this is a standard ops for government behavior regarding anything that would panic the public. The obvious issues with telling everyone we have an incoming asteroid/comet ensure that we will never be told about an incoming asteroid/comet.

If we tell people we have inc asteroid/comet and nothing happens we still have to deal with the chaos of that “warning”…

reply to post by Shenon

If that thing comes closer than the Moon,shouldn´t its Path change,at least a little,due to Earths gravitational pull?

Valid question, gets asked a lot. Yes, it will be affected, of course. But, only very slightly. Scientists will be interested to see its trajectory after the encounter, because knowing:

A) The mass of the Earth, and Moon, and the extent of their gravitational influence rather precisely;

and,

B) Later observing the resulting changes, however small....they will get a more accurate estimate of asteroid 2005 YU55's mass.


About its near approach.....its velocity is high, and is above the escape velocity of Earth....so, it will have a slight alteration, but remember that gravity decreases by the square of distance (an inverse rule) and the amount of time that the asteroid will be affected is minimal, as it hurries past.

Think of how we use planets for what's called a "gravitational slingshot" maneuver, when we send spacecraft out into the Solar System. Many very deep space missions are planned so the timing is helpful for them.

Say, you want to reach Pluto. You launch from here with the intention of using Jupiter's gravity. Added bonus, you make a close fly-by of Jupiter, and get some pictures too. When the spacecraft is launched, it does not have an engine to constantly give it thrust....it "coasts". Of course, the Sun is "pulling" on it, but its speed is high enough (above the escape velocity of the Sun) to keep going outwards. Aiming to rendezvous with Jupiter, then Jupiter's pull accelerates if, as it falls in...but, it is steered so as to not impact Jupiter, but to "slingshot" around.

Asteroid 2005 YU55 will behave in a similar way, by pure natural chance.

Here is a video of the "slingshot" concept (very simplified) depicting the two Voyager spacecraft:



Of course, the gravity wells of Jupiter and Saturn and other gas giants are much deeper than Earth's, and the spacecraft were steered to get quite close to those planets, for the dramatic speed increases and changes in course direction. 2005 YU55 will not by that dramatic a change, as it passes by......

reply to post by tomten


Thanks...That was way better explained in your post than mine!

Originally posted by tomten

Originally posted by webpirate

Originally posted by tomten
reply to post by camaro68ss

 

There won't be any "impact zone".
Asteroid 2005 YU55 is not on the same plane as earth's orbit!

See this image:

Exactly. Although it does cross the moons orbit, but a good distance behind the moon. Which is why the uncertainty is at a 1.

Naa...
YU55 is passing at a safe distance Above booth Earth and Moon's orbit.

See it like this.
We have a ten story building.
The Earth and the Moon, resides on floor 3 to 5.
And YU55 is passing thru on floor 8.


The uncertanty is just a number of the precision in NASA's calculation.
It is a very small object.
The smaller it is, the harder it is to predict the trajectory accuratly.

edit on 2011-11-7 by tomten because: spell fix

and your numbers are based off the numbers provided by the goverment??? just saying. Why would they give you the real number if its going to hit.

reply to post by camaro68ss


How come you believe NASA with regards to the date it's closest to the Earth, but not any of their other information re: trajectory, etc.?

If they're truly a bunch of lying liars who lie, how can you pick and choose when they're fibbing and when they're being legit?

Originally posted by camaro68ss

and your numbers are based off the numbers provided by the goverment??? just saying. Why would they give you the real number if its going to hit.

Because if it does hit they've just set themselves up for the biggest FAIL in the history of the world.

Do you believe they would take that risk? I don't. The ONLY way I believe they would is for an extinction level event where they would have nothing to lose.

But in this present case, they continue to say emphatically that this is not going to hit. If it does hit, and they knew it but withheld it, they're toast.

Originally posted by ColAngus
reply to post by camaro68ss

 

How come you believe NASA with regards to the date it's closest to the Earth, but not any of their other information re: trajectory, etc.?

If they're truly a bunch of lying liars who lie, how can you pick and choose when they're fibbing and when they're being legit?

I never said I belived any of there data. All i did in this thread was point out the coincidence between this asteroid and its date on when it will be here, when we will be doing national broadcasting test and tsunami tests, that can turn to “Live Events” and the man being arrested in Alaska for telling government secrets.

reply to post by camaro68ss


Ok, then what's the point of this thread?

Where's the conspiracy? Pointing out coincidences with information ALL put out there by NASA?

Sorry, I don't get it.

Originally posted by ColAngus
reply to post by camaro68ss

 

Ok, then what's the point of this thread?

Where's the conspiracy? Pointing out coincidences with information ALL put out there by NASA?

Sorry, I don't get it.

edit on 7-11-2011 by ColAngus because: (no reason given)

well let me hold your hand like a small child. the coincidence is the conspiracy

Originally posted by LanternOfDiogenes

Originally posted by camaro68ss
I just find it strange we are having "drills" the same time this is coming around.

I had a Chinook helicopter fly over my house on the west coast yesterday and i dont even live near a base..... strange..??

I live in CA man, though i am a lot closer to a base, however look at the maps of ca, there are four major airbases you will always have some traffic of military grade if you live here... hell I get buzzed by an F18 and a hornet regularly, when I lived in North Nv, we would get buzzed by F16s F4s and both stealth all the time.
Fact is we have upped our monitoring of the coasts, not because of falling rocks, it is a fear op, helicopters, military ones flying low, get your teeth on edge as a civilian, all kinds of questions run through your head,,, its what they want at the moment. Keep your head down, the next disaster is on it's way....

I live within a few miles of Langley AIr Force Base here in Virginia. I guess I should tell the 1st fighter Wing that I am on to what they are doing every morning at 8:00 and its not training. Those nasty b-tids

reply to post by camaro68ss


If I didn't know better, NASA is just messing with you guys.

No need to be condescending, though I'll take that as an invitation to do the same once this week is over and NOTHING of note happens.

reply to post by tomten


Well your analogy is a little off. Say we have a 10 story building and the earth is on the first floor and the moon is on the 10 floor. This will hit about the 8th floor.

reply to post by Sly1one


I'll say it again. NASA and our govt do not control the skies. There are astromomers all over the planet that would let this kitty out of the bag before NASA could say Meow Mix. They are not all in NASA's pocket.

Sigh... I just posted in a thread regarding this Intel Hub article. How many people reading it and repeating it as if it's fact actually read the source material (or in most cases, the lack of) for most of the claims. Since there is yet another thread about this, I will just repeat my post from this thread. It also contains references to this page, which is linked from the OP's first link.

I think the best part of the articles was this.

This article is based on circumstantial evidence as well as some obvious conspiracy theory. The Intel Hub refuses to censor itself by only covering topics that are 100% confirmed so we have decided to make a conspiracy theory category.

There is clearly a lot of imagination required to tie all these loose "events" into a doomsday scenario, and it is severly lacking in any factual substance and logical thought processes. I will attempt to analyse parts of it for those who don't want to read past the dramatic headlines. Let's start with this.

Google Earth now shows a large red X over the projected potential impact zone.

The page linked uses this ATS thread as a "partial source". The page claims that this red x is the projected impact point of YU55, even though the thread claims that this is the impact point of comet ELENIN, not YU55. The thread also erroneously claims YU55 will pass within "200-300km" of Earthe, when it is acually over 300,000km.

Regardless, the red x has been adequately explained on another ATS thread. Basically, this was an error in a NASA kml file (it is for Mars, not Earth), that tries to show a jpeg that isn't there, so leaves a red x instead. I find it quite odd that some people will not trust NASA when they say there is very little chance of an impact, but will happily believe something produced by NASA if it is somehow tied with a doomsday theory. Carrying on.

The page then remarks on the tsunami drills set on Nov 9th, that "FEMA has openly said may not be a test" with a link to this video. The video clearly states that this is just a test, without ever hinting that it is anything other than a test! I think this must be one of the parts that is "obvious conspiracy theory", or in other words, unfounded or disingenuous claims. But they can get away with it, as barely anyone reading these articles bothers to check the sources.

The page links to the other page linked above titled "Bio-Weapon On Civilian Populace As Doomsday Event Looms?". This page ties together a loose series of events starting with this, "the U.S. government just ordered 44 million doses of the Anthrax vaccine at the cost of over a billion dollars of taxpayer money. There are over 300 million people in America… who will get the 44 million doses?". This is an attempt to claim that the government would try to poison the whole population instead of deal with a disaster. A claim I find highly dubious, but you are welcome to believe whatever you want to believe.

At various times the article refers to the comet Elenin, even claiming that we will encounter it's debris trail on November 9th. Yet again, this is another fabrication with no factual backing whatsoever. But as we all know, as of late, a good doomsday theory should throw in Elenin somewhere, regardless of the truth. Criticism is placed on MSM for not mentioning Elenin as much as Halleys Comet, even though there is a good reason for this. Halleys comet is is the only short-period comet that is clearly visible to the naked eye, and Elenin was not. In fact, Elenin is no more.

Other "events" include a movie due to come out on 11/11/11, after the supposed impact, and movements of the army within the US. I apologise for such a large post, but I believe many points had to be raised regarding the validity of claims that would otherwise have been accepted as fact. I do not fear the upcoming PacWave11 tests, and am glad that my country, New Zealand, is taking part. We are always at risk of tsunamis (and earthquakes, volcanoes, tornadoes etc), and it pays to always be prepared for such events. But spreading false information,whilst constantly asking for donations, is IMO disingenuous and does little to help prepare for genuine concerns.