Hard Times (and not just in Arkansas...)

Kudos to you! Very Nice Job.

I think you just boosted the cause like a rocket! Thanks so much!

Love the blues. You fit the genre nicely.

I am a lover of Arkansas, I lived there for 9 yrs. It is a majestic state populated by some of the most orignal and loving people.
Those who do not know, most who live there live way below poverty level. I was included in that group, people there choose that life over the hustle and at times harrassment of city life. By the way Star City Arkansas... Love ya MAN!!!!
They are a hardy group of folks though, I doubt they even slowed down while the ground shook under they`re feet. Most probably just shrugged they`re shoulders and went back to the chore at hand.

What I find alarming is many people have talked of what will happen to the Mississippi valley if that fault lets loose. I remember seeing some graphs showing the Gulf of Mexico all the way to the suburbs of Chicago. That is a sobering thaught let alone what it would cost our country in general loss... I.E. fantastic fertile bottom land. Thats right in the middle of our country and worlds bread basket. OUCH.....
OP.... Love it man... keep that sound and let us all hear. Music awakens the soul

That was really good Mike! Love the music and the lyrics as well. Really good music and the singing was better than I thought it would be. I will do my best to share this video as well. Robin has been awful quiet these days but I can only imagine the delight it will give him when he hears it too. Oh...btw .... Arkansas just a small one. Guess they are back in town, huh?

Gasland is an awesome documentary about fracking.....highly recomended but itll make you so angry!

Thank you all for the kind comments. I rushed a bit to get this online because of what's been happening in Oklahoma and also the ongoing quakes around Guy and also Quitman in Arkansas.

Hope you'll all forgive but I'm a bit fuzzy headed right now; last night I broke a tooth or cracked one at least and it's really starting to wear me down. (It's after 11:30 pm here and it's been a lonnnng day.) Anyways, off to the dentist tomorrow morning for drilling and filling. Believe me or not I'm looking forward to it. If you ever broke a tooth down to the bit that hurts I guess you know what I mean.

But back to business: the keyboard player is Ben Paterson of Chicago. I gave him acknowledgement in my YT notes. Just waiting to hear back from him and if he's agreeable I'll add more details and put a linky on YT to his channel. Superb muso and works with some top people in Chicago.

Now, to fracking business: a while back, SunflowerStar put together a special Resource Bibliography thread to provide a ready reference for the links to info, reports, maps and so on that members posted in RobinMarks' Earthquake Swarm in Arkansas Intensifies... thread.

SunflowerStar has been updating the resource file as the thread grows and the latest version is here: RESOURCE BIBLIOGRAPHY THREAD.

EDIT: Please note that in the post immediately above the main Resource post that I've linked, SunflowerStar has provided a summary of what's listed in the resource by category. (End edit.)

This is an excellent resource and provides a ready way to access a huge amount of information that members have found. I strongly recommend adding it to your bookmarks if you have not already done so. I've used it several times myself, because trying to find something in a thread that's now over 280 pages long is not a task many would want to tackle.

Best regards to everyone,

Mike

Originally posted by MamaJ
That was really good Mike! Love the music and the lyrics as well. Really good music and the singing was better than I thought it would be.

I will do my best to share this video as well. Robin has been awful quiet these days but I can only imagine the delight it will give him when he hears it too.

Oh...btw .... Arkansas just a small one. Guess they are back in town, huh?

Mama,

thanks for that... I think!

And Robin? Oh, he's around, I'm pretty sure about that. And I'm pretty sure he's heard it, too. I'd be glad if he'd drop me a U2U, though. Couple of things I'd like to discuss that relate to this thread and some other matters. Some... some Orwellian sorts of issues, I'll put it that way. Lots of those related to fracking.

And yes... to one of the key issues which could be pure frackingwellian rather than Orwellian -- Arkansas had another quake. A small one, but they're all part of the bigger picture:

Magnitude 2.3 - ARKANSAS
2011 November 07 19:57:55 UTC

* Details
* Summary
* Maps
* Scientific & Technical

Earthquake Details

* This event has been reviewed by a seismologist.

Magnitude 2.3
Date-Time

* Monday, November 07, 2011 at 19:57:55 UTC
* Monday, November 07, 2011 at 01:57:55 PM at epicenter
* Time of Earthquake in other Time Zones

Location 35.366°N, 92.256°W
Depth 3.8 km (2.4 miles)
Region ARKANSAS
Distances

* 4 km (2 miles) WSW (243°) from Quitman, AR
* 8 km (5 miles) ENE (57°) from Guy, AR
* 14 km (9 miles) E (90°) from Damascus, AR
* 36 km (22 miles) NNE (30°) from Conway, AR
* 70 km (44 miles) N (6°) from Little Rock, AR
* 404 km (251 miles) SSW (207°) from St. Louis, MO

Location Uncertainty horizontal +/- 0.9 km (0.6 miles); depth +/- 1.6 km (1.0 miles)
Parameters NST= 10, Nph= 16, Dmin=5 km, Rmss=0.1 sec, Gp=137°,
M-type=duration magnitude (Md), Version=A
Source

* Cooperative New Madrid Seismic Network

Event ID nm110711a

Source: USGS

A couple of miles from Quitman, and five miles from Guy. Those quakes aren't going away. Not for a while. Let's just hope they don't get bigger.

Mike

reply to post by JustMike


I think Robin had a breakdown. Didn't you read his last post? Seems he has some crazy idea in his head. He thinks he's been watched. I think he's actually waiting for the CIA to take him out to dinner. The mind does some strange things when it's stressed. I suppose he's coping the only way he knows how. I'd say he was fractured.

You're right. Arkansas is waking back up again. Curious thing though, you almost forget the day before the Oklahoma 4.7M, Arkansas had a small swarm.

Don't keep your questions a secret. What are you thinking?

reply to post by gatherer

Great to have your comments and support. I grew up in the country and Arkansas and the regions round there are among the places I'd love to visit if I ever get the chance to go to the US.

Meanwhile, here's another one I wrote a few days ago (on the tram while going to work...) I think you all can guess what song it's based on.

Frackers Don't Care About Us

What you got-ta see is it
Don't mat-ter where you're stay-in'
Garbage in -- garbage out
Every-body's pay-ing

All I gotta say is those frackers don't care about us
Yeah, all I wanna say is those frackers don't care about us

Frackers coming in and
Tox-i-cal-ly dril-ling
Outta sight, underhand
It's not just the ground they're killing

All I gotta say is those frackers don't care about us
Yeah, all I wanna say is those frackers don't care about us

It's gotta be so clear that
Fracking is stu-pid
If ya wanna fall in love you
Don't go killing cu-pid

All I gotta say is those frackers don't care about us
Yeah, all I wanna say is those frackers don't care about us

Wouldn't it be smart to
Find a better answer
Not wait til it's too late and
Babies all have cancer

All I gotta say is those frackers don't care about us
Yeah, all I wanna say is those frackers don't care about us

All we gotta say is those frackers don't care about us
Yeah, all we wanna say is those frackers don't care about us
Yeah, all we wanna say is those frackers don't care about us!

Mike

reply to post by ericblair4891

Hello Eric,

yes, I read Robin's last post and replied to it -- and that reply eventually lead to this thread as I'd made a promise -- and this (thread) is the promise. Well, the song is anyway.

I found Robin's last post as I was concerned about Arkansas and the fracking. AR and other places, too. Wanted to say so, to say that some of us are still awake and watching. As I said there,

You were right about the fracking and that's what matters.

And it still matters.

Forgive me. It's around 1 am here and my concentration is wavering.

Back in that last post of Robin's, he talked of the Arkansas quakes and also Memphis. Earlier today, I was pondering this and also the Oklahoma quakes along with the prior swarm in AR and looking at Google Earth after I'd plugged in the yellow cyber-pins to mark various spaces, I noticed something. True, it could have no meaning but sometimes we might even get signs that we have to interpret. So I posted what I noticed on the "Experiment" thread and rather than linky to that, I'll drop the relevant Google Earth image in here as a thumbnail so people can click on it without the annoying need to scroll:


Strange, isn't it? Draw a line from the latest and largest Oklahoma quakes to touch on Guy and run the line on and (with acknowledgement that curvature is not being taken into account), the line goes straight into Memphis.

Isn't that strange?

But now I really should try to get some sleep. Some other matters are a bit complex and I'd have to source links and so forth to explain them, perhaps. So I'll bid you and everyone goodnight and hope your day will stay peaceful.

And Robin: thank you.

Mike

I betcha he's got an answer. I think the CIA should take him out to dinner. Or the Chinese. Whomever gets there first. Maybe he thinks the CIA is taking a gamble and they want to keep in his enviroment. Maybe they think his lab suits him But they're taking a risk that things will become completely unravelled. Like a coiled spring. Ever wind up one of those suckers only to have to let go just as you almost had it in place. Boing.

How can they expect him to think when he's come unglued?
Robin probably doesn't like what he would write. I don't think he like some of his more extreme statements. Afterall, wasn't he trying to stay focused and stick to the facts. And the future is not a fact. Yet.

I imagine he thinks he's scarring people. Maybe needlessly. Afterall, aren't we supposed to reassured that all is good, all is natural. It's a fault afterall. I imagine he feels like little Regan McNiel. Standing there. Possessed. Peeing on the floor. And saying scary things. Like...

Who would want to be a manical chicken little running around screaming?

Like you wrote in that song.

Arkansas' got beauty
All those towns and hills so green
But when those quakes start up again
It's enough to make you scream


I bet if Robin was writing right now, he'd be screaming. Anmarie said he's up a pole. I bet she's half right.

Me. Sorry, for thinking I know what I'm talking about.
I'm just some dude with a made up name. It's not my real name.
You can call me Winston if you want.

reply to post by JustMike


I don't know if anyone posted it yet...another in ok 11/7/11...have been glue to live seismic monitor.

reply to post by ericblair4891

Hi Eric/Winston,

when I wrote that song, I was trying to imagine myself in the situation of people like Susan Frey, who were having their houses shaken day after day and night after night, and even though I have only experienced very slight quakes where I live, just having the glasses in the kitchen cabinets start rattling and ringing all on their own was enough to set my nerves on edge.

If I had to suffer what Susan and others have been going through in a place that used to be so quiet, I'd probably be screaming.

Sometimes we need to run around like chicken little. Letting emotions out is good for our own sanity or whatever we have left of it. And when we do have a message and it's real and it's about something that's not going away, it's worth screaming a bit if we have to.

Scaring people? Sometimes that's the only way to get a reaction. Perhaps not by scaring, but by shocking or shaking people out of their complacency. I'm not talking about people like Susan or Robin or you or the others who are passionate about this, but the ones who seem to think that nothing can ever happen to them purely on the basis that it never has before. They don't know the history of their own region, even.

Chicken little screamed that the sky was falling. People are living in places where the ground could soon be falling. While the first is unreal, the second has happened before and the actions of some frackers could hasten its return.

When actions are taken by people who care for nothing but their own ever-growing bank balances, someone has to warn the people who could one day feel the effects of their fracking heartlessness.

And that's why I did that song. If just one person becomes more aware of what has been and what might be, and through that has a better chance of living through whatever may come, then it's worth putting my plain old face and voice out there for all to see.

And besides, when you sing blues, people need to see your feelings.

Mike

reply to post by timetothink

They could continue to get aftershocks for some days yet. That one you posted -- a mag 4.7 -- was pretty much on the cards. It's fairly common to get an aftershock that's within around 1 mag of the main shock. Hopefully, however, that might be the last bigger one. It often works that way.

The problem is that we have very little to go on for Oklahoma. Saturday's magnitude 5.6 was the biggest OK quake ever recorded by seismographs in the whole state and it's been half a century since the last one even near that size. So, as we lack the vast quantities of data we have for regions like SoCal, for example, we can only go on what's typically known to happen elsewhere. Oklahoma's way of doing things could be a little different. So, it's a wait and see situation.

Mike

Fracking Causes Earthquakes-Confirmed by Gas Company

www.politicolnews.com...

Link to the pdf mentioned in the article about Oklahoma. www.ogs.ou.edu/pubsscanned/openfile/OF1_2011.pdf

Maybe one of you could pop in here with some better info.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Oh,and BTW ,Mike,that was an awesome song!!!!
Kudos to you!

reply to post by JustMike


Hello Mike and everyone,

This is my first post… that I dedicate specifically to Mike for his video ... I was very touched by the lyrics and the piano accompaniment ...

A real treat for me, to listen and listen again ...

Especially since I was totally stunned when I heard the documentary "Gasland" ... Even if I live in Quebec and English is not my first language, I feel that your video communicates in all languages for us to share ... a reality that goes beyond the mentality of people who are not yet aware!

Congratulations Mike and I'm monitoring your video to my contacts ... while adding the documentary "Gasland"!

Thank you for sharing! S&F

Surya ☼

PS : Sorry for my poor English translation (thank you google;-) because I wanted first to express the feelings of my heart ♥… to Robin & cie !

reply to post by kdog1982

Hi kdog,

thanks for your support. Much appreciated! About your other post referring to that thread, it seemed to be rolloing along when I dropped in there and I wasn't in the best of moods at the time so I didn't comment on anything.

Sometimes I need to bite my tongue, you see. I get riled by what some people post on occasion. Like that member who scoffed at the "fracking causing quakes" concept and argued that fracking wells only go a few hundred metres deep and so they couldn't cause quakes... I mean, what's the point of trying to argue with someone who spouts that kind of nonsense, when even the companies that do the drilling publish data to show they drill many times deeper than that? Those companies even argue that they can't affect the water table because the fracking is done well below it! (They seem to ignore the fact that cracks don't always spread horizontally and water tables vary in depth and so for those reasons and others, water tables do get affected but that's another story.)

So, rather than rain down links and quotes on that member I just kept quiet as I felt that I'd likely wind up saying some things that would not be very polite.

Mike

reply to post by surya13

Hello Surya,

thank you so much for posting! I am very glad that you liked the video. But please, I must say that the piano playing was done by Ben Paterson and not by me. I just used his excellent music to sing to.

And Surya, your English is very easy to read and understand. Unfortunately I do not speak French (only English and Czech) but I know that it not easy to write in another language. But let me just say -- from Robin, Susan, all of us who are concerned about this problem:

Je tiens à vous exprimer notre gratitude pour votre gentillesse. **

Mike
**I wish to express our gratitude for your kindness.

reply to post by JustMike

Thanks for responding.
Not worth the battle ,in my mind.

I understand.
That is where I was at and I also thought it was not worth it.

But,I want to add some stuff I found,in case this hasn't been brought up.

Tremors seem to be extremely sensitive to minute stress changes," said Roland Bürgmann, UC Berkeley professor of earth and planetary science. "Seismic waves from the other side of the planet triggered tremors on the Cascadia subduction zone off the coast of Washington state after the Sumatra earthquake last year, while the Denali earthquake in 2002 triggered tremors on a number of faults in California. Now we also see that tides -- the daily lunar and solar tides -- very strongly modulate tremors."

www.sciencedaily.com...

"Large tides have a significant effect in triggering earthquakes," said Elizabeth Cochran, a UCLA graduate student in Earth and space sciences and lead author of the Science paper. "The earthquakes would have happened anyway, but they can be pushed sooner or later by the stress fluctuations of the tides." "Scientists have long suspected the tides played a role, but no one has been able to prove that for earthquakes worldwide until now," said John Vidale, UCLA professor of Earth and space sciences, interim director of UCLA's Institute of Geophysics and Planetary Physics, and co-author of the paper. "Earthquakes have shown such clear correlations in only a few special settings, such as just below the sea-floor or near volcanoes."

www.sciencedaily.com...