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His father worked as a plate stripper on offset printers. Originally from Kansas, he had fought for the Republicans in the Spanish Civil War. Anarchists made up one part of the fragile Republican coalition, and for a brief period they controlled Barcelona. “Most people don’t think anarchism is a bad idea. They think it’s insane,” says Graeber. “Yeah, sure it would be great not to have prisons and police and hierarchical structures of authority, but everybody would just start killing each other. That wouldn’t work, right?” Graeber’s father, however, had seen it work. “So it wasn’t insane. I was never brought up to think it was insane.”
Originally posted by jlv70
reply to post by AtticusRye
Thank you for posting that, I had never heard of David Graeber before, what an awesome guy!
One of the things I took away from that article was this little bit about his Father:
His father worked as a plate stripper on offset printers. Originally from Kansas, he had fought for the Republicans in the Spanish Civil War. Anarchists made up one part of the fragile Republican coalition, and for a brief period they controlled Barcelona. “Most people don’t think anarchism is a bad idea. They think it’s insane,” says Graeber. “Yeah, sure it would be great not to have prisons and police and hierarchical structures of authority, but everybody would just start killing each other. That wouldn’t work, right?” Graeber’s father, however, had seen it work. “So it wasn’t insane. I was never brought up to think it was insane.”
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This just shows to me the extent to which we're controlled. The very word anarchists has become the exact opposite of what it really is.
When people act like grown, civilized adults there are no need for hierarchical structures of authority.
Maybe that's why the moochers who stay at the top of our hierarchical structures of authority make damn good and sure we never get to that point.
Originally posted by jlv70
reply to post by AtticusRye
Maybe the serial killer is on the rapists payroll?
Someone needs to call the system for all the crap it's been pulling, and OWS is doing it.
Originally posted by AtticusRye
As an anarchist I support castrating the state by terminating its ability to wage war. It wages war with money. It gets money from taxes.
OWS is screaming for the state to collect more taxes. Every dollar - whether from a prince or pauper - equals one more dead Libyan.
Originally posted by Q:1984A:1776
Originally posted by AtticusRye
As an anarchist I support castrating the state by terminating its ability to wage war. It wages war with money. It gets money from taxes.
OWS is screaming for the state to collect more taxes. Every dollar - whether from a prince or pauper - equals one more dead Libyan.
Damn straight,
I'm truly surprised that more people on ATS don't see the connection between their funding of a government, and the atrocities that it commits. If you pay taxes, you are supporting the war effort, you are supporting the erosion of your freedoms, you are supporting all of the things that you claim to hate about your government. If we all really wanted to have a peaceful revolution, all we would have to do is STOP PAYING INCOME TAX!
OWS doesn't seem to get that point either.
edit on 6-11-2011 by Q:1984A:1776 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by jlv70
I don't see Obama standing in solidarity with the protesters, I see a typical politician tenuously testing the waters for any political gain.
Originally posted by AtticusRye
Creepy looking Dr. David Graeber
Originally posted by Balkan
Originally posted by AtticusRye
Creepy looking Dr. David Graeber
He doesn't look creepy at all to me.
reply to post by AtticusRye
I guess we see what we want to see.
Originally posted by jlv70
reply to post by AtticusRye
I guess we see what we want to see.
You're right on that.
It seems like your problem with OWS is that they're not doing what you want them to do. They're not doing everything I want them to do either. That's life.
reply to post by AtticusRye
The mere existence of OWS - as a corporate-controlled "steam valve" to relieve revolutionary pressure - is an affront. It neuters the possibility of any real movement forming. A real, spontaneous revolutionary movement can't form when the Official State/Corporate-Sanctioned revolutionary movement has sapped all the attention.
Originally posted by jlv70
reply to post by AtticusRye
The mere existence of OWS - as a corporate-controlled "steam valve" to relieve revolutionary pressure - is an affront. It neuters the possibility of any real movement forming. A real, spontaneous revolutionary movement can't form when the Official State/Corporate-Sanctioned revolutionary movement has sapped all the attention.
I see what you're saying there, and you make a good point, but OWS being state sponsored has yet to be seen. Right now, they're the only show in town.