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The jet flies into the building, all the way down to the tail, without slowing down.
This has been proved by calculating the frame rates it takes for the jet to fly through the air, and the frame rate it takes for the jet to fly into the buildings, which are the same.
Originally posted by ProudBird
reply to post by septic
This is a lie:
The jet flies into the building, all the way down to the tail, without slowing down.
There is always some deceleration, but the time scale is too brief for the naked eye to interpret.
This has been proved by calculating the frame rates it takes for the jet to fly through the air, and the frame rate it takes for the jet to fly into the buildings, which are the same.
Another lie. The only way for these fantasies to have an semblance of anything, is to lie...openly and bluntly lie....and hope that you are not called out on the lies.
When measuring the distance the image of the jet travels between frames, it has been proved the jet cut into the building all the way to the tippy tip of the tail at the same speed it traveled through the air.
Originally posted by septic
reply to post by Varemia
Since you can't scrutinize the evidence and come up with a better explanation, can you find someone who can? Gather pteridine and go expert hunting.
That you disagree with the conclusions is evident, but if you can't debate my points, you lose.
Originally posted by ProudBird
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This is wrong:
When measuring the distance the image of the jet travels between frames, it has been proved the jet cut into the building all the way to the tippy tip of the tail at the same speed it traveled through the air.
There is a video examining this very topic, I have seen it on YouTube. Why not go hunting for it?
Your theory rides on the plane being impossible.
Originally posted by septic
reply to post by Varemia
Your theory rides on the plane being impossible.
If you must know, my "theory" is simply an attempt to explain the damage to columns 145-152, and it does not "ride" on the plane being impossible, it is derived from the acknowledgement that the plane was impossible.
That's exactly the same thing. You looked at the damage, said "A plane is impossible," and now deny that any evidence that supports a plane is fake. That's bad science, front and center.
Originally posted by septic
reply to post by Varemia
Your theory rides on the plane being impossible.
If you must know, my "theory" is simply an attempt to explain the damage to columns 145-152, and it does not "ride" on the plane being impossible, it is derived from the acknowledgement that the plane was impossible.
Originally posted by Varemia
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www.flickr.com...
See that close-up? That's the very end of the wing. Now, think about how much mass will be behind that. Also consider that regardless of where it is on the plane, it has all the momentum from the entire mass as a unit. It is still going 500 mph, and that is a really high speed. High speed means high force, exponentially. 250^2 is 62,500. 500^2 is 250,000. Do you comprehend how much more energy that is? That's almost four times as much. Apply that to the mass of the wing part that is impacting. I don't see how it could NOT go through.
Originally posted by Varemia
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A little thing about the spear analogy. It is completely unrelated. You see, a tree has way more mass than the spear, and usually a spear is wider than the tree. So, when you try to throw it longways at high speed, the momentum of the object as a whole will try to continue forward, the middle will be stopped by the energy absorption of the tree, but the sides will keep going and cause the spear to snap in half.
With the tower, the wings are thicker than the steel.
They have more mass, especially in the parts where jet fuel is held.
Going 500 mph as I've repeatedly explained, gives the wings and the rest of the plane ridiculous amounts of force and momentum.
The structure inside the wings is angled such that while it shreds and pushes on the steel and such, it will not maintain a straight trajectory. It will hit with angled results from the inside of the plane. See, the parts of a plane may be lightweight, but they are meant to stick together, so when it impacts and shreds, the parts are still pulling on each-other, especially in the wings, where there is carbon fiber and other materials meant to be able to flex and resist the damaging forces of wind and water in the air at high speeds.
I'm not sure how you imagine the tower wall can be so strong.
Prove it. I'm tired of you sidestepping every request that's made of you. Prove that the freaking steel was thicker than the plane wing. Prove that it had the energy absorption capabilities necessary to dissipate the force of the mass of the wings' impact. Prove anything!
Originally posted by Varemia
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You're lying and sidestepping the question again. I will persist. Answer the question. Prove that the steel had enough energy absorption capabilities to resist the plane impact. I will not let up, and every post after this will be requesting it without fail. You can try to distract by making nonsense claims or attacking my character, but I'm tired of your crap. Prove your theory or get the hell off this site.
Originally posted by septic
No, you just asked me to "prove anything", and I gave you an example, and if you weren't being deceitful, that should give you pause.
I'm not side stepping anything, I think anyone suffering through this thread can see that.
This is just one telephone pole. Make it a square steel box with sharp edges, multiply it by a couple dozen, and laterally support them with four-foot wide plates of steel, and brace them with trusses and a four-inch thick concrete floor, a center core, and another couple dozen beyond that, all tied together with structural steel, welds and bolts.and then speed up the plane to 500 MPH. What would happen?
If you need more proof than that, I give up. You're beyond reach.