OWS is working

OWS is working. ??????

Who in their right mind thinks that these protests will result in money going from the rich and given it to the poor. I mean that is the end result of the wishes of the protest isn't it?

It needs no "ONE SINGLE" message or "ONE SINGLE" leader as it is working JUST FINE now as it is. EVERYONE is the leader, and EVERYONE there[color=cyan] has there OWN message.

A PERFECT system that the HATERS are ridiculing because they are VERY AFRAID of it!!!!

We clearly can see a handful of SNAKES and SHILLS here on the forums who are desperately trying to make it look bad and change it.

They are VERY afraid!!

HOORAY, POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!!!!

reply to post by XPLodER

not everyone has the same point of view, but all are allowed to express thiers and has a right to do so.

The point of a protest is to get across a message. You dont protest abortions when you dont even know whats wrong.

reply to post by TsukiLunar

IS that their ambition?

i am only looking at this from the social standpoint and cannot say what OWS is trying to achive,
i can only speculate that they have achived something,

everyone is talking and debating,
and this helps the democratic process

i have no idea what their ambition is or will be as i am not involved,

all i can say for sure is where i sit,
people are becoming more democratic and more like an acual comunity every day.

so if that was their ambition
OWS is working

xploder

xploder

reply to post by HangTheTraitors

Lots of Snakes and SHILLS here on the forums who are desperately trying to make it look bad and change it.

So, it can only be discussed as long as you agree with it? No criticism allowed either?

Xploder, how do you feel about HangTheTraitors post?

OWS and all of it's siblings, are but the scab on the wound.

It really wont change anything. The festering carrion is too entrenched. Rotting to the core.

This is how it is supposed to be. a global tribe of willing participants in an unwilling game of who's the richest.

Anything else is just a costume party.

reply to post by XPLodER

everyone is talking and debating, and this helps the democratic process

Shouldnt the debating have taken place before the protest? And then those who agreed would have shown up?

At this point, if they come to an "official" message, then a lot of people will feel shafted that their original intention is not a focal point. Will they still support a message they do not believe in?

Originally posted by daggyz
OWS is working. ??????

Who in their right mind thinks that these protests will result in money going from the rich and given it to the poor. I mean that is the end result of the wishes of the protest isn't it?

what makes you think that is what this is all about?

i think this is about real democracy where everybody has a voice,
and it would surprise me if most would not use their voice to make thier point

remember democracy is messey with different voices with different ideas.
all may speak.

only when a true democratic concensus is reached by the people will you realize this is about saving a country and a people from socialism for the rich and capitalism for the poor.

not taking from one for another,
your post is a devicive tactic used by the wall street folks to hide behind the boogie word socialism while protecting their socialist bailouts from the capalists who made money from capitalism and invested it with the socialists who lost it.

this single message has been repeated from day one

xploder

Originally posted by TsukiLunar
reply to post by HangTheTraitors

 

Lots of Snakes and SHILLS here on the forums who are desperately trying to make it look bad and change it.

So, it can only be discussed as long as you agree with it? No criticism allowed either?

Xploder, how do you feel about HangTheTraitors post?

edit on 5-11-2011 by TsukiLunar because: (no reason given)

i am of the opinion that all are allowed to voice their opinion,
and in life you will get those who dont wish to debate,
i say all are allowed to post all are allowed a voice,

even those who disagree with me
even more so to those who dis agreee,
as it is important for all to express their ideas

doent mean i agree or disagree with the post

xploder

Originally posted by TsukiLunar
reply to post by XPLodER

 

not everyone has the same point of view, but all are allowed to express thiers and has a right to do so.

The point of a protest is to get across a message. You dont protest abortions when you dont even know whats wrong.

edit on 5-11-2011 by TsukiLunar because: (no reason given)

i think using abortions as a comparison is the wrong thing to do.

we all know somethings wrong,
not all of us know what that thing is,
by knowing something is wrong and debating everyone about it,
every body gets to hear what is wrong in the opinion of others,

if everyone realizes they are angry for the same reason,
then there will be change

xploder

Originally posted by TsukiLunar
reply to post by XPLodER

 

everyone is talking and debating, and this helps the democratic process

Shouldnt the debating have taken place before the protest? And then those who agreed would have shown up?

At this point, if they come to an "official" message, then a lot of people will feel shafted that their original intention is not a focal point. Will they still support a message they do not believe in?

why?
everyone who protested knew there was something wrong......
they all had a small idea of what was wrong......
when they all got together as a comunity and talked.......
they got a much better idea of what was wrong..........

so at some point the thing that is acually wrong becomes clear to all that participate.
this is happening because people are no longer 1 person behind a computer,
they are one comunity trying to figuar out why it has been allowed to get as "wrong" as it is.

and in my opinon the longer people talk the more defined the "wrong" will be

so be patient and watch a real democracy of the people make a real change.

xploder

nothing will change! come on everything is part of an agenda OWS lets u THINK we have rights and a voice but thats all it is, nobodys listening. The markets WILL crash there WILL be riots and we WILL go WAR thats generally what happens in these situations, buckel up kids

Originally posted by XPLodER

Originally posted by TsukiLunar
reply to post by XPLodER

 

everyone is talking and debating, and this helps the democratic process

Shouldnt the debating have taken place before the protest? And then those who agreed would have shown up?

At this point, if they come to an "official" message, then a lot of people will feel shafted that their original intention is not a focal point. Will they still support a message they do not believe in?

why?
everyone who protested knew there was something wrong......
they all had a small idea of what was wrong......
when they all got together as a comunity and talked.......
they got a much better idea of what was wrong..........

so at some point the thing that is acually wrong becomes clear to all that participate.
this is happening because people are no longer 1 person behind a computer,
they are one comunity trying to figuar out why it has been allowed to get as "wrong" as it is.

and in my opinon the longer people talk the more defined the "wrong" will be

so be patient and watch a real democracy of the people make a real change.

xploder

I dont know about that.

I guess we will wait and see. Nice talking.

Originally posted by Ha`la`tha
OWS and all of it's siblings, are but the scab on the wound.

It really wont change anything. The festering carrion is too entrenched. Rotting to the core.

This is how it is supposed to be. a global tribe of willing participants in an unwilling game of who's the richest.

Anything else is just a costume party.

when greed becomes unbridled,
it is no longer something people look at and say,
well done,

it becomes disgusting to the humble,
and the greed of a few start to look like out right evil,
not capalism

the banks got too greedy and forgot one important point,
the average human has a heart and compasion for one another,
they want others to do as good as them,

xploder

Originally posted by XPLodER
reply to post by Puppet27Master

 

it is only when people are debating and talking as a comunity that the issues raise themselves
by this i mean that people simply debating the issues as a comunity,
the issues will become clear to all involved.

debate by nature creates change

xploder

This is how I see it as well.

I see the movement as a question mark, which creates debate and investigation from all sides.

This must have the TPTB and the media trembling.

How are they able to attack the message and divide and conquer if there isn't one yet?

reply to post by XPLodER


Hey, I thought of a nice question for you. Please dont dodge it.

If you absolutely had too decide on the message(Like you alone are a tie breaker) what would it be?

reply to post by jacobe001


yes
people are talking about things that matter,
not dancing with the stars
this is how a country defines what is wrong
open debate away from moneyed interests

xploder

Originally posted by TsukiLunar
reply to post by XPLodER

 

Hey, I thought of a nice question for you. Please dont dodge it.

If you absolutely had too decide on the message(Like you alone are a tie breaker) what would it be?

only on the theretical grounds that every person in the world had cast their vote for what the message is and the only remaining vote was to be cast by me to break a tie,

i would say that the "social contract" between the people with the real power (the 99%)
and the 1% has been broken with corruption of political office and wall street bankers.

i would say that the people do not want to force a change, but thanks to the people who have been entrusted with the prosperity of the many (the 1%)
who have willingly broken the age old contract between the people and their representitives,
and at the point there is no "social justice" for the 99% that 1% are no longer entusted with our society.

that people are more important than banks,
that to big to fail is socialism with funds for education and health paid to banks for comodity bets and dirivitives
that destroy the social fabric of a nation.

i would say that the people are now far more able to represent themselves and no longer need the 1% to keep social order as they are now the ones destabilizing it.

in short the monopoly of money supply and demand only favours those who are allowed to create money,
at the moment that is the 1% and they are using the creation of money to destroy savings through inflation.

the answer is to nationalise the fed and give the people the ability to profit of the fruit of their labour by creating money from wealth not debt.

the answer is to make it illegal to offer money or kick backs to anyone in the political office.
THIS IS A CRIME IN MY COUNTRY
why is it not in yours?

the answer is for people to realize that the social contract of looking after us has been ripped up by those in power (1%) and we are the 99%
so regaurdless if you want change or not it will come,
question is,
where will you be while the future of your country is being bailed out to the banks

remember this line,
from the full faith and credit of the people of the united states of america

this means the money the federal reserve creates is from the labour of your work,
and they use this to steel the labour of your work.

the excuse that the fed has to be indipendant
is the fed acting in the favour of the people whos future labour backs this money?
or in the banks that this money gets deposited in by the people?

i suggest a pirate party who has the job of fighting for the 99%
not to jion a corrupt system,
but to epose the system from the inside

xploder

reply to post by XPLodER


Now sum that up and slap it on a sign for me.

reply to post by BULLETINYOURHEAD


That's why we better start exercising our 2nd Amendment Right to protect our freedom of speech and assembly. We all know where this is headed so better get ready and be prepared.