OWS leading the way to darkness and dictatorship

reply to post by Spiramirabilis


I can cut the sarcasm with a knife from here.

reply to post by projectvxn


do the crimes of the big banks simply vanish?
when there are other crimes to look at?
does the trillions of dollars disappair when someone breaks a different law

i am aking you directly
does the crimes reported by you mean that the bankers are now off the hook?
because by that logic as soon as another crime happens we should forget about the ones you listed?

two wrongs dont make one right

i dont condone any criminal acts of any kind,
so to focus on one crime and to discount another is abviously biased

xploder

reply to post by XPLodER


Are you purposefully ignoring my replies?

Here

Here

Well, this was my first try at posting a thread. I now realize I should have titled it as a Question with ??? question marks... Like I do not know, but read this?!

All I know is that when I found this article about 'how communism' uses subversive tactics, and then seeing how they do it. Looking at what is going on with OWS, and the backers of the movement, then it seemed to me that maybe some of the protesters are being mislead into being used by people they would not like to be serving as tools.

I am not very good at "group think' so these sorts of movements kind of eliminates the individual from the equation, and usually that demands that some authoritarian system is put into place.

The article certainly has some very powerful points to make. Not that the KGB or Russia is involved, but that being lead astray by being 'seduced' to thinking we are 'liberating' people...and really this could get tricky and they could end up in the bad lands...

This was just so we might be aware or at least question it all deeply.

Thanks everyone

reply to post by projectvxn


good you have a sense of humor projectvxn

:-)

just keep feeding me material - and we'll be fine

reply to post by projectvxn


everyone has a voice,
everyone has the right to speek,
everyone is allowed to protest,

to point to one group you dislike and say they should not have a voice because you disagree with them is not democratic.

all people are suffering not just the left right paridime you try to sort people into.
when people are sorted into small groups you can pit them one against another,

you are taking one small group and using them to say the whole group is bad

this is obviously trying to split the group down into smaller chunks so the whole may be labeled by a small group.

this is not about political parties,
so dont try to make it about sociualism vs capitalism
they are boogie words to scare people.

they are all human and all deserve a voice,
so to say that they should have been excluded shows you are know little of a true democracy where ALL are equal.

even if you dont like ther message.
they are allowed to express themselves

and on the other issue,
criminal is criminal,

to try and say that this is OWS is like saying all poliece are criminals

you try to tar all with the same brush.

your inability to allow decent ie others opinions you dont agree with shows that you dont really understand democracy

all have the right to protest, and to say yes you can but no you cant is not democractic

so are you anti democracy?
because it really sounds that way from where i sit

xploder

reply to post by Spiramirabilis



i really liked how you explained your ideas about capitalism and all that... That was really good. I was in agreement with you on just about all of it....very well said, and me too, I am an artist...not so much about politics and economy, but I do like the free market.

and I will vote for Ron Paul... gosh I would love to see how things would go if he got elected. That would so interesting to try.. I think.

Originally posted by Spiramirabilis
reply to post by projectvxn

 

good you have a sense of humor projectvxn

:-)

just keep feeding me material - and we'll be fine

Feeding monkeys is usually not good.

I don't wanna be covered in poo..

I save that for fans.

reply to post by projectvxn


no i am reading your material to see if what you are trying to say comes from you or your links,

i dont agree with one person breaking the law just as i dont agree with many breaking the law,

tell me if you really like the fact the banks have sold america out?
17 trillion dollars of the future labour of your children?

who is the greater evil to you
OWS
or
THE BAILOUT BANKERS
?

xploder

reply to post by XPLodER

everyone has a voice,

Absolutely, no question.

everyone has the right to speek,

Same as above. Absolutely.

everyone is allowed to protest,

No question there.

But let us not confuse these rights for civil disobedience. You have the right to PEACEABLY assemble. Not ignore lawful orders from police, not riots, not to break established laws for civil order.

THAT is my problem with OWS and the way they conduct themselves.

My other problem is the political affiliations. I'm not left leaning enough for this group and I KNOW IT.

so are you anti democracy?

Yes I am. I am, however, pro Constitutional Republic. Democracy is mob rule.

reply to post by projectvxn


so in a republic, in your republic who gets to print money?
who gets to represent in your republic, is it only the rich?

to preseve the republic is to be a protestor.

"what have you given us sir?, a republic maam if you can keep it"

what thretens the republic more?
pieceful protest,
or
trillion dollar bailouts without congresses aproval?

xploder

reply to post by XPLodER

what thretens the republic more? pieceful protest, or trillion dollar bailouts without congresses aproval?

Why is it that you think not being in the bag for OWS means I'm for bailouts and cronyism?

OWS doesn't have a monopoly on these things.

Edit:

Unfortunately congress did approve it. What they didn't do was read the damned bills they passed.

reply to post by projectvxn


so is it congress not reading the bailout legislation before passing it that threatens the republic more?
or the acual movement of money?

from memory they were not given enough time to read it.

so the mecanism for the bailout is that the problem?
or is it simply that the money is now gone?

we can blame the politicians?
we can blame the banks?

or is it that the politicians and the banks conspired to allow cover for the politicans "cover" by not giving them time to read it?

how does this represent anyone but the banks in the republic?
and how does this benifit anyone who is now on the hook for future payments on the trillions?

its easy to see that both work against the republic to bunkrupt it for profit.

i can see how OWS can bunrupt a country by passing legisation that allows the theift of future earning of future generations.

but i can see how bankers and politicans could do this.

i would like to point out that if you beleive the politicans are the problem why are you not protesting them seperatly?

dont join OWS, insteed do something to supply info on the real source threat to your republic, if you do not support OWS but instead want to make a change,
why not protest the politicans?

defend your republic (it is required in a republic that all people defend it)


xploder

reply to post by XPLodER

dont join OWS, insteed do something to supply info on the real source threat to your republic, if you do not support OWS but instead want to make a change, why not protest the politicans?

Indeed.

I would ask the same of OWS. Instead they are screaming about eating the rich and how evil corporations are while they tweet and use facebook.

Meanwhile the people responsible for the bailouts are still in power, and many in OWS will be voting for these people again.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

reply to post by projectvxn


here is a vid i found i hope it helps


to me it explains why it is important to protest
weather OWS or other.....its up to you

xploder

reply to post by projectvxn


Didn't I defeat this claim already of you trying to equate the stances of The Communist party is in line with that of OWS and it is simply not true. You could post this vid a hundred times and the answer will not ever change.

This group does not represent nor speak for OWS!

reply to post by Spiramirabilis


It is for that very reason is why we are not participating in partisan politics and are all about what is best for America as a whole without petty political squabbling and all is has done is nothing for anyone and leads to further bickering and division!

reply to post by projectvxn


TARP program that allowed the bailouts was approved by the 111th Congress and singed into law Oct 05 2008 by 43 so stop blaming Obama for this as you are now dead wrong and continue to be wrong. TARP ended Oct 02 2010!

Continued rehashing of blatant lies and misinformation will warrant you being reported to the staff here as an instigator.

en.wikipedia.org...

Learn something instead of knowing nothing!

Hook, line, sinker, SUNK!

reply to post by Sweetmystery


I'm glad someone else is taking notice. See my sig for more info.

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