BREAKING NEWS: Urgent: Ships BOARDED by Israeli Navy

BREAKING NEWS: Urgent: Ships BOARDED by Israeli Navy

www.intifada-palestine.com

Canadian and Irish ships sailing with Freedom Waves to Gaza have been illegally boarded by the Israeli military in international waters a short while ago.

The Israeli military stated that “Upon arrival of the vessels at the Ashdod port, the activists will be transferred to the custody of the Israel Police and immigration authorities in the Ministry of Interior”.

Freedom Waves to Gaza organizers have been unable to communicate with the ships since soon after the vessels were approached by Israeli warships earlier this afternoon.

The Canadian boat ‘Tahrir’ (Liberation) confirmed

(visit the link for the full news article)

Seriously guys? Boarding ships in international waters bringing supplies to your neighbors? I don't know how reliable this source is but considering past action from the Israel's against this group and their ships I wouldn't put it past them to have done it again. I'm all for protecting your nation but perhaps wait for real threats and don't break the law. I'm tired of stories where Israel is a bully, and they are becoming more and more common. I am beginning to lose any support I once held for Israel.

www.intifada-palestine.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

Well, at least there doesn't seem to be any reported violence, like the last time.

I don't see why anyone would be surprised. After all, we are just days away from an Israeli attack on Iran, which will cause Gaza and Palistine to go crazy.

Crazy days indeed.

this time the inspection went peaceful.

reply to post by Domo1


Does the name of the news source suggest that they may have a bias?

But beyond that, the UN investigated the last time Israel did that. They found that it was perfectly legal although Israel used to much force. There is no reason to think this was illegal.

illegally boarded by the Israeli military in international waters

keywords illegally and international waters. also irish, you don't wanna anger the irish no sir. I can understand why they would want to raid boats from less than reputable countries or whatever, but canada? pull the other leg guys, must be numb cause I don't feel it. the sarcasm I mean, cause they joking right?

When you are about to pulverize Iran and it is public knowledge then I guess the paranoia would be set on ultra high - just saying

reply to post by Domo1


LOL I posted this this afternoon in BAN and got moved to Middle East Issues.

Israeli navy boards Gaza-bound vessels

Not directed towards you OP, no big deal really. I'm just wondering what the difference is.

Cheers.

Really... it must soon be clear that the only terrorists in the middle east at the moment is Israel. I don't see how the US can sit by without having a bad taste in the mouth in light of yet another atrocious act by the hostile Israelis.

They really need to be put in their place, have their nuclear facilities dismantled and be put under administration by some larger entity that is NOT the US.

If we in the west ( I live in Europe ) engage ourselves in yet another illegal war and support the terrorist nation of Israel I will have lost faith completely that we as free people have anything at all to say in regards to how the people WE elected to office really are doing a job to make our lives better.

Stop this war mongering attitude.

Shame on your David Cameron, shame on you Obama and shame on Israel!

Here's a blurb about the source of your "article" (it's really more of a blog):

Intifada Palestine was started as a pro-Palestine blog, only on January 11th, 2009. Almost 2000 articles have been published in the first year alone. This website is managed by a single person trying to satiate a need for truth in a world voraciously devoured by inconsistencies and uncomprehending propaganda and lies against the people of Palestine.

This is from the "About Us" link of the site. I'd say it's safe to say the information on this site is not impartial. I'm not saying Israel is innocent or guilty in this matter, but it is legal for Israel to board ships that approach its coastline and based on the map it looks like they were not in international waters, but were in waters controlled by Israel. We need info from a more reliable source before judging whether they acted improperly.

reply to post by flice


its the illuminati's plan to make ww3 happen exactly as described in revelations, the bible.

most of you already know Im right >=) god I wish I wasn't...

(doubt it all you want but nothing else makes as much sense when you ask the 'why' question for all this..)

Originally posted by Domo1


Seriously guys? Boarding ships in international waters bringing supplies to your neighbors? I don't know how reliable this source is but considering past action from the Israel's against this group and their ships I wouldn't put it past them to have done it again. I'm all for protecting your nation but perhaps wait for real threats and don't break the law. I'm tired of stories where Israel is a bully, and they are becoming more and more common. I am beginning to lose any support I once held for Israel.

www.intifada-palestine.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

With all due respect, it seems as if they are being portrayed as the bully. Israel is a tiny country surrounded by enemies on all sides, and yes, they do have to take the necessary precautions to protect themselves. Perhaps they recieved information that there was indeed a threat aboard the ship. I don't know. It just seems as if the world is going out of its way to make Israel look like a warmonger and bully. And,as a previous poster said, the source is from a pro palestinian site, so most likely it is biased, but then so is all news I suppose. I would like to say, also, that this is just my opinion, and I respect your opinion as well, also, keep up the good work with you other threads as well. Thank you, and peace be to you.

Had to dig for it on MSNBC.com.

They report it as having been boarded after crossing out of international waters. Either way it's disgusting. This crazy world we live in just brings you to your knees sometimes. Humans starving humans killing humans etc...this planet is big enough to accomdate us all and then some.

One thing I have learned about wars like this, both sides are bias and it's hard to know who to trust.

Israel has committed crimes against Palestine, for sure.
But Palestine has committed crimes against Israel as well.

So it's a tit-for-tat type cycle of retaliation and violence. I genuinely don't want to take either side.

But since this story is obviously taking a heavy anti-Israel stance, I will play devil's advocate just to get a secondary opposing view out there. I do not mind speculating the variables involved here.

What if Israel genuinely believes that these ships could be carrying rockets or other weapons of this nature to create even more bloodshed? Can you envision their point of view too?

Also, Palestine is still seeking legitimate recognition as a sovereign state in the UN aren't they? If that is the case, than wouldn't Israel consider Gaza and the West Bank to technically be territories under their jurisdiction to some extent (at least militarily) ?

Look I know Israel has the long-end of the stick. They have almost every advantage except media portrayals, which almost always tend to favor the Palestinians point of view. I am aware of that.

I am in no way condoning the actions of either side in this war, just trying to give multiple alternative perspectives for people to consider and ponder.

It's a real mess, sure, and honestly I favor a two-state solution of some sort. But if you want the Israeli side of the story which is almost never in the media, Netanyahu claims they have been trying to offer peace and resolutions to the Palestinians several times and they won't even come to the table and negotiate. (That's his point of view).
Also consider the claims Netanyahu makes about Hamas.

We need to be wary to just focus on one side of this messed up situation because there more sides to this than that. Hell there are many many sides with many beliefs and many perspectives. We must consider everything in order to attempt to build a better understanding of this highly complex situation.

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Just a helpfull fact - It has never been anything different

those canadians are brave.

the canadian government is so spineless and lack the courage and loyality to protect it's citizens, israel could line them all up and blow their heads off and the most they'd do is issue a statement apologizing to israel for having to shoot canadians.

whatever you say about americans, at least you're loyal to each other.... but when it comes to israel it's like bizarro world.

Seriously guys? Boarding ships in international waters bringing supplies to your neighbors?

The thing is that the neighbors have a bit of a quarrel going on. One side fires rockets (that killed and wounded Israelis just this week) and the other shells/bombs and blockades. Speaking about blockade - this is the reason for boarding.
Not sure that blockade is beneficial since it might strengthen radicals in the long run, however it is legal. And i am very glad that nobody was harmed, unlike in Marmara fiasco.

reply to post by Domo1


O K , let me take a crack at this one.

A band of thugs board a ship in international waters and it is call piracy. The world screams bloody-murder and the US Navy sends in a crack SEAL team to take them out.

Now a contengent of a military, sent in by the government of a nation with no defined boarders, boards a ship in international waters. The U N investigates and, even thought they have killed citizens from a foriegn country, says that everything is O K.

Now, once again, this event has been repeated, this time now one was killed. So will it be better this or even the next time be better still ?

It would seem one groups piracy is another groups, "That a way boys!"

I'm sorry, can someone clarify? Are THESE the 'starving people' Israel is now guilty of blocking desperately needed aid from??

Large Shopping Mall opens in Gaza City

Israel has declared a blockade for that stretch of coast line. Any nation can bring an action before the UN and Sec Council to do something about the blockade existing, but the UN DID find in it's report and investigation on the ship boarding that turned to violence that Israel did nothing wrong, outside of some poor tactical planning on how it was conducted.

That report and other statements from Israel (never disputed by others in any credible way) indicate these ships can dock in Israel and anything not on the ban list (which also isn't largely disputed by anyone on items listed) can be taken right on into Gaza from there. I guess Israel has found just a few too many actual arms shipments being snuck into Gaza to allow for unchecked shiploads at this point....and I can't really blame them on that specific point.

reply to post by Domo1


It was a peaceful, routine, security check to ensure that no weapons were being smuggled into Gaza, because the aid ships purposely veered into territory to challenge Israel's legal blockade.

The difference this time around is that the Israeli naval officers weren't greeted by metal pipe wielding animals on board the ships.