Would an RBE be the thing to take over from money?

So say if people realise that the rich bastards aint gonna back down and there are always gonna be people who have more money that controls the majority of things, do you think and RBE would be good for the globe. What do you think are the disadvantages?

RBE is just communism glazed over with new-age ideals. I don't even understand how an RBE would work. Like literally. There isn't unlimited resources, so there will always be a scarcity based economy.

Take a look at The Venus Project,
Video below here, This is how an RBE would work, in an RBE, words like COMMUNISM and SOCIALISM do not exists, because they are mere words that have been tainted over the years.

The website

What exactly is RBE?

Originally posted by wavemaker
What exactly is RBE?

Resource Based Economy

Originally posted by mr10k
RBE is just communism glazed over with new-age ideals. I don't even understand how an RBE would work. Like literally. There isn't unlimited resources, so there will always be a scarcity based economy.

There are more than enough resources, its just a few select places squander it all.
If money were not an issue, there would be unlimited resources, we can synthesize anything now, synthetic fuel, building materials, and everything else.

RBE is the only answer. We've been trading a man made comodity(currency of types) for natural resources for too long. Not only does the system currently in place fail, its using something infinite to trade for something finite. It doesnt work. RBE done properly through an appropriate and public government, would not only succeed, we would thrive.

So say if people realise that the rich bastards aint gonna back down and there are always gonna be people who have more money that controls the majority of things

The powerful won't back down, there will always be those who have more money and assets. They will always control the majority.

You also have to consider perpetual resources vs. exhaustibility.

The perpetual resource concept is a complex one because the concept of resource is complex and changes with the advent of new technology, new needs, and to a lesser degree with new economics. On the one hand, a material (and its resources) can enter a time of shortage and become a strategic and critical material (an immediate exhaustibility crisis), those in power will stock-pile the resource. On the other hand a material can go out of use, its resource can proceed to being perpetual if it was not before, and then the resource can become a paleoresource when the material goes almost completely out of use (e.g. resources of arrowhead-grade flint).

Some of the complexities influencing resources of a material include the extent of recyclability, the availability of suitable substitutes for the material in its end-use products, plus some other less important factors.

Bottom line is; even if you start out as a resource based economy, eventually you will end up right back where you are now. It's a natural (human) progression. Those who are powerful will still be powerful and those who are not will still be taken advantage of.

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no becuase comunism is bassed on money, evrey one having equal money equal evreything. In an RBE people dont have equal resorces an island in the pacfic isnt going to be a rich in recorces as the USA or Africa so it is all about globally sharing, and who needs what resorce.

If it was comunism them we would have to split up evrey resource and share it between the population. which would lead to silly things haperning such as people in the middle of the Sahara and Pacific having exotic materials that they never seen before and not know how to use them. such as microscopes and nano carbon fibres and web servers and anything really that they would not need. in a RBE resorces are allocated to people that need them think of a libary ( one that you can rent stuff from for a week, a month, a year, 5 years) but with resorces and objects rather than just books or a few dvds.

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Recycling is a huges part of an RBE and effecient recycling, without money we can build very efcient recyiling machines but becuase they cost so much at the moment we can not afford them, but yes we have to allocate resorces to people that need them. Things like computers, hispeed internet, houses, education, hi speed coftable travel(BTW all these would be free, and to your design), and scientific research would improve to a point where the sky is ony the limit and not the researchers/scientists bank account.

So no, you right there isnt unlimited resorces, but the first point i made about effcient recycling earlier helps contribute agisnt this factor and also my second point is.

the way we recycly isnt really that effcient atall infact it is terrible if you can call it recycling, we need oil to power the power plant to give the recycle centre power to give to the machines to work and they need alot of power, not to mentiond the vehicles that pick them up use deisel or petrol and the vehicles that take them to where they are needed once recycled which can be all over the globe, some things like plastics just go back to china to get made into the same thign they where orginally

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Yeah you are right about stockpilling, but the philspohy of an RBE is not to be too greedy, and to understand that nothing is ever truly yours, yeah you could own it untill you die for your whole lifeand call it yours and all your friends family will know it is yours but after that is it still yours? the person you were, which you yourself and other people which would see you as or define you as, has gone, your dead, you perception of the present time has ended how can you own something if you dont exist in the present anymore?

like i said in the post above things have a libarie ID you can rent them for aslong as you want (the things people want more will get built more often obviously, like fast computers and a good work enviroment) as long as you have a vaild reason that checks out,so say if....

I'm a mechanic and i want to goto this "libary" and borrow 20 littres of enriched uranium there not gonna go "OK here you go", there gonna be like WTF you gonna need that for, can i have a vaild research papers for its use and a lot of personal and comercial references and have an auditor to go and visit it use. obviously im using an extrem material for a very unlikly situation, but i hope you understand my point or its not a free for all on resorces, and stockpilling would be pointless becuase if it is not in use it would need to go back into the libary for other people to use aftwer so many years, since the libarie would need evedence of its use or research for it use.

hope that cleared up you questions!

Take it easy yall!

Originally posted by AzureSky
Take a look at The Venus Project,
Video below here, This is how an RBE would work, in an RBE, words like COMMUNISM and SOCIALISM do not exists, because they are mere words that have been tainted over the years.

The website

all so comunism and socalism are based around a goverment that has a economic structure bassed on money. not resourcems.