Israel is to attack Iran

Israel is to attack Iran

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Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is trying to rally support in his cabinet for an attack on Iran, according to government sources.

The country's defence minister Ehud Barak and the foreign minister Avigdor Lieberman are said to be among those backing a pre-emptive strike to neutralise Iran's nuclear ambitions.

But a narrow majority of ministers currently oppose the move, which could trigger a wave of regional retaliation.

The debate over possible Israeli military action has reached fever pitch in recent days with newspaper leader columns discussing the benefits and dangers

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WOW if the Israeli Government end up with a majority voice on a full and complete pre-emptive attack on Iran, this will be World war 3, for sure. this will alter history permanently.

I don't know about you, but have you started to notice a shift in nation's allegiance recently? Saudi royal family (the only real pure monarchical kingdom worldwide with governing power) seems to be getting tiresome of the U.S and supporting the Palestinians.

NATO this week said they would stay out of syrian affairs, Turkey is becoming a NATO voice/New power for mediation between the near middle east states and has also threatened Israel.

This week UNESCO vote in favour of full UN Palestine membership and the U.S response was to pull all U.S funding from UNESCO.

This says to me this is old news, politically, a pre-emptive attack has been in the wings for a while by the looks of things, some rather obvious, some we're not allowed to know about. There is also something, that's in the wings, as a killswitch if the U.S gets out of hand or directly instigates or purposely inflates attacks against other nation, shall we say.

Osama bin Barak a few times, calls home all U.S troops with a promise before xmas from our current occupation states, U.K follows like a lost puppy but the EU remain skeptical on maneuvers.

Don't believe me, to say Americans will be left jaw dropped is an understatement LOL, but you'll only find out if you fowl up! P.S that's not me threatening, i'm not jewish and i'm not american, it's not even a threat, it's just something that will be revealed under law and oath if the case is needed.


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Announcing and actually DOING are totally different things.

Especially ``when the situation can change at any moment``... like an attack on Iran would mean lots of Iranian-backed attacks on NATO troops in Afghanistan... more weapons in Talibans hands, more men, etc...

Iraq would probably turn into a civil war.

And then when all that happens, all the ``we are withdrawing troops`` is off the table.

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calm down. a minor mistake.

On topic: I've heard this many times but now I see major news publications reporting Britain is readying up for...something. And to me I feel it will be big. Nothing to do but prepare and wait to see what is bound to happen. I wonder how all the strings will play out too. Add in Greece's default and the uprisings going on all over the world and 2012 seems to be ringing it up out there.

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I ain't no Fool! LOL, but yes your right the UK did announce before the U.S, but let's not forget we work practically inside each other's shoes, the UK also has the smaller footprint too, it would be us pulling out first, we have the political might, but not the bite shall we say, these kind of decisions would have been at a NATO roundtable with the UK and US being the governing voice.

We need a war on capitalism, not a war on iran.

The first will actually solve problems, while the second will only make things infinetly worse.

Perhaps the ptb are getting nervous with all these ows protests and are looking for distractions?

Hmmm

Israels time has come ,it is the time for them to reap the death they so deserve.
It is a shame all ISRAELS MUST DIE when it is the ZIONISTS agenda.

Originally posted by Vitchilo
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Announcing and actually DOING are totally different things.

Especially ``when the situation can change at any moment``... like an attack on Iran would mean lots of Iranian-backed attacks on NATO troops in Afghanistan... more weapons in Talibans hands, more men, etc...

Iraq would probably turn into a civil war.

And then when all that happens, all the ``we are withdrawing troops`` is off the table.

This one part caught my attention "more weapons in Talibans hands"
Really?
Seriously,really?

Do some research,they have more than enough already.
Who do you think we have given help/aid/weapons to in Libiya?

Who do you think sold Iraq all those weapons throughout the years?

Who supported and trained the Taliban during the Russian/Afghan war?

Well the U.S of course.
The U.S is the worlds leader when it comes to exporting war.

SO they gotta make sure the other side is at least armed to some degree.

reply to post by mr10k


readying up - is an understatement when you live next door to a n RAF-USAF Base! the bets are on the table and i'm with the "will strike in weeks" group and i'll be cashing in my winnings hehe.

Don't forget we here at ATS have been debating this "conspiracy" for months and now the MSM are getting official heads up that it's likely to happen, that's serious, because the MSM's sponsored mission is majority populous preparation in favour of governmental decisions that may cause outrage but requires justification and public backing.

The oligarch a-holes in power are always about to attack Iran...

When they do, I hope it's a fail of epic proportions... not long term Iraq / Afghanistan profitable fails, but a swift kick in the balls where all their assets get stopped cold.. kinda fail.

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
We need a war on capitalism, not a war on iran.

The first will actually solve problems, while the second will only make things infinetly worse.

Perhaps the ptb are getting nervous with all these ows protests and are looking for distractions?

Hmmm

Show me one way fighting Capitalism will help ANYTHING. Keep in mind destroying capitalism will mean destroying business, which will mean destroying institutions (like science and education fields that recieve donations from these businesses), which will in turn destroy many jobs, which in turn will leave us in an even DEEPER hole we are in now. People don't really think these "War on Capitalism" things too far do they?

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i totally agree, that destroying capitalism kills business and therefore kills national growth, you DO need big corps but not so big that if they collapse it kills the nations economy!

Originally posted by technologicalsingularity
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readying up - is an understatement when you live next door to a n RAF-USAF Base! the bets are on the table and i'm with the "will strike in weeks" group and i'll be cashing in my winnings hehe.

Don't forget we here at ATS have been debating this "conspiracy" for months and now the MSM are getting official heads up that it's likely to happen, that's serious, because the MSM's sponsored mission is majority populous preparation in favour of governmental decisions that may cause outrage but requires justification and public backing.

It is a conspiracy and why would it require justification and public backing? The government isn't run by the people; it is run by blood thirsty bankers, private security contractors and various restructuring firms. Money talks and bs walks.

Why the hell would anyone listen to "the peope"? And who are "the people"? In fact who is "the government"?

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Who pulled it's troops out of Iraq first. The UK or The US?

Originally posted by mr10k

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
We need a war on capitalism, not a war on iran.

The first will actually solve problems, while the second will only make things infinetly worse.

Perhaps the ptb are getting nervous with all these ows protests and are looking for distractions?

Hmmm

Show me one way fighting Capitalism will help ANYTHING. Keep in mind destroying capitalism will mean destroying business, which will mean destroying institutions (like science and education fields that recieve donations from these businesses), which will in turn destroy many jobs, which in turn will leave us in an even DEEPER hole we are in now. People don't really think these "War on Capitalism" things too far do they?

I bet I know more than you do. What do you know other than making wild assumptions?

How did communism survive in russia for 80 years? Oh that is a toughie, huh.....

Originally posted by madjetxe
Israels time has come ,it is the time for them to reap the death they so deserve.
It is a shame all ISRAELS MUST DIE when it is the ZIONISTS agenda.

'

Everyone deserves death. Even you, even me, even the next man and so forth. You shouldn't be so eager to see anyone die. If this war happens it wont be the zionists that die but the innocent men, women and children that they use as meat shields. If you want to win a war without killing the innocent you take down their government, not the innocent people who have no real power. Go for the head of the snake, that is how you spare the innocent.

Too many warmongers in this world that are too eager to see blood drench the ground and the screams of the dying. No wonder the messiah has to come back to keep all humanity from destroying themselves. I am ashamed of what we have wrought.

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personally i dont think its a conspiracy any longer, yes the banking elite do own the world or most of, what is happening is a shift in banking power and removing it from Israel. War does make short term profits, but ultimately will bankrupt a nation and Russia, Iran, china, N.Korea and Pakistan are loking to remove U.S power completely in my opinion by stretching the nations economy to beyond repair, by causing the US/Israel to spend themselfs into doom, The US will have no money left and Israel will have no banking power.

like i said it's a shift on several positions.

While I agree with you that something is in the works, the position you take implying the marginalization of the U.S. in the region (as in the Saudis pulling away and Turkey stepping forward) isn't really on the mark. The Saudis would see their branch of Islam (differing from Iran's) take the entire region so I think they would back a U.S. play. I also think they would be the power that would arrange for the rest of the Islamic states to leave Israel alone. Especially after that situation that either happened or was floated with Iran trying to arrange the assasination of Saudi U.S. based officials.

I do think the end game is coming soon though.
Hopefully NOT to a "theatre" near me.

Calling a person a fool is not cool for this reason

Anyhow, Israel has been itching to attack Iran for quite some time now
Same with U.S.

One thing that is interesting to mention is "Operation Opera"

Trita Parsi, in the book Treacherous Alliance: The Secret Dealings of Israel, Iran, and the United States, writes that a senior Israeli official met with a representative of the Khomeini regime in France one month prior to the Israeli attack.[47] The source of the assertion is Ari Ben-Menashe, a former Israeli government employee. At the alleged meeting, the Iranians explained details of their 1980 attack on the site, and agreed to let Israeli planes land at an Iranian airfield in Tabriz in the case of an emergency.

en.wikipedia.org...

And today the tables have SOMEWHAT turned

This in no way shape or form means you should support this initiative, Iran should have every right to have nuclear capabilities just as the non-signatory Israel has, Israel has about what... 300 warheads?

All I am saying is because of who you ally with!