What do you believe E.T.s are?

Just think of the perplexing amount of diversity here on Planet Earth alone!
In the 4.3 billion years since it's incarnation, to the 200,000 years ago since we first left Africa.
10,000 since the Ice age and the first Empire at 5300B.C

Now imagine the 200 billion stars in our Galaxy (13.2billionyrs)
I'd think since 1 out of the 8 planets around Sol (4.5billionyrs) is harbouring such a wide range of life,
then out of the potential 3.2 trillion planets in the galaxy, there must be A LOT of life.
Like, alot. seriously, so much.

Now, what matters is the time they have existed in a state of civilization and the advance acceleration of their technology.

I mean in all honesty, we could be visited yes. They could be on their way, yes.
By all accounts, they HAVE to exist. It would be impossible.

In other words, they can be everything from human-like intelligence, to giant bugs, to giant people, to smart kangaroos ffs. Anything goes out in the universe where the elemental properties are infinitely different and strange!

the universe is huge and way beyond what we can grasp,of course there is other life out there and for all we know they could be closer than we think,100 years ago to say to a scientist we would have internet,phones that u cud see the person while u spoke,microchips that can control things they would have said impossible,now take what we can do now an advance it by a million years or even more,what could we do?impossible to even comprehend.

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I'm sorry, but, I had to come back to this . . .

Yeah you...are not one to attempt to debunk anything. You believe your an alien..and have never provided any proof..except the DNA tests that say you are human just not from the right culture you believe you are from...

Ya know if we were talking about culture, it might be a bit different, but, "culture" has little to do with anything here. What I am referring to is "genetic populations", ya know, a group from the same region with very simular DNA. And, there is a great deal of difference between northern Britian and south-east India, or central Africa. Now, if you can eplain just how a Scottsman gets DNA from south-east India or Africa, and manages to have absolutely no European DNA, please explain.

You are nothing but a human mongrel and you somehow made that into being alien.

I find this statement extreamly offensive, not just to myself, but also to your intelligence and your entire species. Or perhaps I should say; you have managed to "put-down" the Terrestrial Human species far better than any ET ever could.

reply to post by AnthraAndromda


So you're an alien? Please answer my questions.

When did you figure this out and how?
What is the difference from you and us?
Where are you from?
How did you get here?
Do you have any advice to give to us here?
Why are you here?
Are there others like you here?
How many alien races visit earth at this time?
Do you have any knowledge or means of obtaining knowledge that we, humans, do not?
Do you have any personal photos?

Please, if you have time, I would like an answer to all of these questions. This will help me determine whether or not you're legit or just another crackpot.

reply to post by yourmaker

In other words, they can be everything from human-like intelligence, to giant bugs, to giant people, to smart kangaroos ffs. Anything goes out in the universe where the elemental properties are infinitely different and strange!

The diversity in the Universe is indeed great, but not all of those creatures will gain sentience.

I've been told that all species that become capable of venturing frm their home world are preditors, at least in the beginning. I'm also told that all species that become that advanced, tend to evolve toward the Humanoid shape.

Originally posted by AnthraAndromda Now, if you can eplain just how a Scottsman gets DNA from south-east India or Africa, and manages to have absolutely no European DNA, please explain.

2 ways

1) adoption

2) since you get half your DNA from your father, half from your mother, it is likely that you got the half of theirs that isn't European.

There was a famous case in the US of a white married couple that had a black child. After extensive testing it was determined that the child was indeed theirs and that both sides had a portion of black genes from way back, that chose that time to become dominant in the child...

Now if you had Martian or Venusian DNA... you might have something

Originally posted by yourmaker
Anything goes out in the universe where the elemental properties are infinitely different and strange!

But your wrong... elemental properties are NOT infinitely different. There are only 118 elements and those elements obey rules in how they combine. If you mix hydrogen with oxygen, no matter where you are in the Universe, the result will be water

So in an infinite Universe with finite resources you are bound to get repeats

And while we are at it why do people assume silicon based life forms would be made of rock? Silicon makes quartz, hardness 7 and we have all used silicon RUBBER, in fact the elasticity of our skin is due to silicon... while carbon makes diamond, harness 10... and we are not rock creatures

And why do we consider silicon life forms? Because the elements react the same way

Originally posted by AnthraAndromda
reply to post by yourmaker

 

In other words, they can be everything from human-like intelligence, to giant bugs, to giant people, to smart kangaroos ffs. Anything goes out in the universe where the elemental properties are infinitely different and strange!

The diversity in the Universe is indeed great, but not all of those creatures will gain sentience.

I've been told that all species that become capable of venturing frm their home world are preditors, at least in the beginning. I'm also told that all species that become that advanced, tend to evolve toward the Humanoid shape.

Okay, but again we're talking about beings that have evolved on a physical realm utilizing physical technology. It makes perfect sense that beings of this nature would be predatorial and/or what you might call malevolent, as are we.

But I'm convinced there is more to this universe than just the physical. So that means there are beings that don't necessarily need any form of technology at all to travel between worlds. Such an entity would not necessarily be predatorial either.

Originally posted by smithjustinb
reply to post by AnthraAndromda

 

So you're an alien? Please answer my questions.

When did you figure this out and how?

I was told when I was 4 1/2 years old, and promptly forgot. But had "feelings" and "suspicions" that eventually grew into a hypothesis. I began to accept all this in the early 90's, and a couple of years ago had soe siple DNA testing done. I thought this would lay the whole issue to rest, but, I don't get so lucky. The testing showed that my Terrestrial parents could not be my "real" parents. My DNA arkers are all wrong. But, it should have provided enough data to assciate me with a known population here n Earth . . . it didn't. In fact, my DNA associates me with no known population. So while it may appear Terrestrial at first glance, closer inspection puts that determination in question.

The problem is that there is not enough data available either from my DNA, or in science. Even if I use "fringe science" there is nothing truly positive, and I get left with a question. So ... I have to rely on personal experience, like multiple trips off-world, and being told, yet again, in the mid 90's that I'm not Terrestrial.

What is the difference from you and us?

Appearently very few. My species is much taller than Terrestrials, about twice. Our DNA seems to be very uch the same, except the "makers" are kind of skewed (I'm told this is typical). There is actually anothercase like this; seemingly Human DNA, but with skewed markers.

Where are you from?

The Andromeda galaxy. Our home world is called "Ta-Mal". I've never been there. But I hear that it is a planet much like Earth, less gravity, slightly different color Sun (tends toward blue rather than yellow), and part of a binary star system.

How did you get here?

Starship. Through wormholes.

Do you have any advice to give to us here?

yes ... DEMAND DISCLOSURE!

Why are you here?

A 60 year old question, and one that I have never received a good answer to. Even now, when more is being disclosed to me, I have no acceptable answer. Though, that could just be me wanting what "I" think is a reasonable answer. The reality is that perhaps Mother is right, I'm not ready to know.

Are there others like you here?

Of my species; my understanding is no. Other, more local, ETs; yes, 1000's

How many alien races visit earth at this time?

1. Orion Geys
2. Regulan Greys
3. Alpha Dracs
4. Pleiadians (not their original home)
5 Lyarans

There is a small number f others, but, they are not associated with either the Grey group nor the Pleiadian group.

Do you have any knowledge or means of obtaining knowledge that we, humans, do not?

Yes, but the data is difficult to get, as the Terrestrial Governments have some awful rules about anything "off-world". But, I do have access to my peoples database, which contains a good deal of local history, and current events.

Do you have any personal photos?

Yes, but for security reasons, I can release that at this time. However, there used to be a partial face photo in another thread. For what its wrth; I lok like a 65 year old "Englishman".

Please, if you have time, I would like an answer to all of these questions. This will help me determine whether or not you're legit or just another crackpot.

Well I hope the answers I gave help, either way. There is a link below that will take you to a whole bunch of "crap" and DNA results. Much of my website will be rewritten between now and the first of next year ... then there will be a bunch of different "Crap" and DNA results.

Peace and understanding

reply to post by zorgon


so star systems in cooler or hotter enviroments and their elemental properties wouldn't react differently?

reply to post by AnthraAndromda


I honestly can't determine anything from your reply. I won't say you are lying, but I won't say you are telling the truth either.

My main problem is that you are failing to provide a photo of yourself. This, to me, indicates deception, but perhaps you are worried about your safety, which is somewhat understandable.

So, can you send me a photo in confidence? I assure you, and you have my word, that if you do, I won't tell anyone that you did. The only thing that it will do if you do send a photo is allow us to have a more trusting relationship whereby we can communicate within trusting parameters and work cooperatively together. If you cannot provide a photo, then, really, you have nothing left to offer me. Either way, I'm a man of my word, and if you do upload a photo and send it as a private message, whether I think its a photo of an alien or not, I will not disclose the fact that you did. That is my word.

Originally posted by Pimander

Originally posted by smithjustinb
Do you believe they come or have come to Earth?

No, I know they have. How I know is classified.

They are probably a mixture of the possibilities you list. One you didn't list is that some may be advanced species from Earth's past. They may have left due to a catastrophe but some have returned or been hidden from view.

I agree with all of this...
My knoeledge is also classified.

My caveat is...do not assume that 'all' contact, is benevolent.

Akushla

Originally posted by akushla99

Originally posted by Pimander

Originally posted by smithjustinb
Do you believe they come or have come to Earth?

No, I know they have. How I know is classified.

They are probably a mixture of the possibilities you list. One you didn't list is that some may be advanced species from Earth's past. They may have left due to a catastrophe but some have returned or been hidden from view.

I agree with all of this...
My knoeledge is also classified.

My caveat is...do not assume that 'all' contact, is benevolent.

Akushla

Is all of your knowledge classified? Can you answer any one of the who, what, where, when, why, or how questions?

This thread was created for the purpose of helping me cope with my situation in an objective way. Can you offer any information that will help me personally?

Originally posted by zorgon

Originally posted by AnthraAndromda Now, if you can eplain just how a Scottsman gets DNA from south-east India or Africa, and manages to have absolutely no European DNA, please explain.

2 ways

1) adoption

Yes, that is the most obivous, however, already thought of and checked. no adoption.

2) since you get half your DNA from your father, half from your mother, it is likely that you got the half of theirs that isn't European.

Again, yes, that would seem a likely source, however, the markers tested don't neccessarily follow those general rules. For instance, Y-DNA only comes from father, and only males have it. And, it is passed "intact" for the most part (can mutate on about 7000 - 10000 year intervals). My Y-DNA is most closely related to either Central Africa, or south-east India (Haplogroups A and F). Terrestrial Father has an unbroken Y-DNA line reaching back to sometime in the 1300's (Scotland). I have been unable to track terrestrial mother back more than 150 years or so, but, she seems solidly "English".

The MtDNA (mother) hasn't been tested as yet, but, based on autosomal DNA predictions, she is clearly of south-eastern / east-central Indian descent.

And, as I've already stated; there is absolutely no indication of Eurpean populationsdescent appearing in my DNA data.

Actually, these are two of the first things I checked on. They were a dead end.

There was a famous case in the US of a white married couple that had a black child. After extensive testing it was determined that the child was indeed theirs and that both sides had a portion of black genes from way back, that chose that time to become dominant in the child...

I'm quite sure this happens frequently, however, the lineage and links to the "alternate" population will be in the persons DNA. In my case it quite simply isn't.

Now if you had Martian or Venusian DNA... you might have something

edit on 31-10-2011 by zorgon because: (no reason given)

So ... ahhhh ...just how would we know if the DNA was Martian / Venusian?

Thats the problem with trying to use DNA, Terrestrial science simly doesn't know of anything other than Terrestrial.

Originally posted by smithjustinb

Originally posted by akushla99

Originally posted by Pimander

Originally posted by smithjustinb
Do you believe they come or have come to Earth?

No, I know they have. How I know is classified.

They are probably a mixture of the possibilities you list. One you didn't list is that some may be advanced species from Earth's past. They may have left due to a catastrophe but some have returned or been hidden from view.

I agree with all of this...
My knoeledge is also classified.

My caveat is...do not assume that 'all' contact, is benevolent.

Akushla

Is all of your knowledge classified? Can you answer any one of the who, what, where, when, why, or how questions?

This thread was created for the purpose of helping me cope with my situation in an objective way. Can you offer any information that will help me personally?

Who?
A) various (as in multitudes)

What?
A) primarily non-material, but able to corporealise.

Where?
A) anywhere and everywhere (given that materiality prompts location)

When?
A) time is not a function of non-materiality.

Why?
A) different and sometimes conflicting agendas/i(?!)

How?
A) ain't technology great!

Akushla

Originally posted by smithjustinb

Originally posted by AnthraAndromda

The diversity in the Universe is indeed great, but not all of those creatures will gain sentience.

I've been told that all species that become capable of venturing frm their home world are preditors, at least in the beginning. I'm also told that all species that become that advanced, tend to evolve toward the Humanoid shape.

Okay, but again we're talking about beings that have evolved on a physical realm utilizing physical technology. It makes perfect sense that beings of this nature would be predatorial and/or what you might call malevolent, as are we.

But I'm convinced there is more to this universe than just the physical. So that means there are beings that don't necessarily need any form of technology at all to travel between worlds. Such an entity would not necessarily be predatorial either.

I have been a student of Western Ceremonial Magick for the past 40 years or so. In this system we are taught that there are multiple "planes" of existance, and, that each of these planes has its own unique orders of being. These "beings" should not be considered "extraterrestrial", as they are extra-planer and transcend the idea of "terrestrial". And, yes, these entities will be quite strange, especially to the uninitiated. And they can be rather dangerous as well, so, interact with extreme caution.

Originally posted by AnthraAndromda

Originally posted by smithjustinb

Originally posted by AnthraAndromda

The diversity in the Universe is indeed great, but not all of those creatures will gain sentience.

I've been told that all species that become capable of venturing frm their home world are preditors, at least in the beginning. I'm also told that all species that become that advanced, tend to evolve toward the Humanoid shape.

Okay, but again we're talking about beings that have evolved on a physical realm utilizing physical technology. It makes perfect sense that beings of this nature would be predatorial and/or what you might call malevolent, as are we.

But I'm convinced there is more to this universe than just the physical. So that means there are beings that don't necessarily need any form of technology at all to travel between worlds. Such an entity would not necessarily be predatorial either.

I have been a student of Western Ceremonial Magick for the past 40 years or so. In this system we are taught that there are multiple "planes" of existance, and, that each of these planes has its own unique orders of being. These "beings" should not be considered "extraterrestrial", as they are extra-planer and transcend the idea of "terrestrial". And, yes, these entities will be quite strange, especially to the uninitiated. And they can be rather dangerous as well, so, interact with extreme caution.

Dangerous...indeed!
The Bardo Thodol, for one, describes many 'thought-forms' encountered on a terminal journey.

ET's are not part of Majick...but, the Majick 'tradition' correlates with ET's.
Discs are not the imagination.
Greys are not the imagination.

...but, thought-forms are the imagination pending actuality. Satan...anyone?!

What processes would a 'higher' evolved entity utilise to manifest, but your own? Pixies, fairies, spring heeled Jacks, Mothmen...etc
The form is irrelevant.

Merry Meet
Akushla

Originally posted by AnthraAndromda
So ... ahhhh ...just how would we know if the DNA was Martian / Venusian?

Check with the NAVY's database

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Thats the problem with trying to use DNA, Terrestrial science simply doesn't know of anything other than Terrestrial.

That you are aware of... yes

WOW..this guy or gal is so full of it...

Is anyone on here taking him/her seriously...I mean C'mon..his/her proof is he/she has eastern DNA...human eastern DNA..

So I guess that makes a lot of people aliens. I said it before your are just another person who is boring and wishes so much to be different...guess what your not.

Think rationally..for a minute...if there was anything alien about you...the government would have you locked up and studied...but they don't.

Originally posted by kerazeesicko
WOW

..this guy or gal is so full of it...

Is anyone on here taking him/her seriously...I mean C'mon..his/her proof is he/she has eastern DNA...human eastern DNA..

So I guess that makes a lot of people aliens. I said it before your are just another person who is boring and wishes so much to be different...guess what your not.

Think rationally..for a minute...if there was anything alien about you...the government would have you locked up and studied...but they don't.

...and you are definitely assured, that you are not being studied?

Akushla