Veterans with AR15s protecting Occupy Phoenix

I have made some posts on this thread in opposition of J.T. Ready's political beliefs and background, and I still feel that way about what he has done in the past and during his military service.

I will not withdraw any of my previous comments but I will have to give him a BZ for supporting the rights of those protesters in AZ, whether I agree with him in other issues or not.

reply to post by LDragonFire


Well I was from the north and I find racism to be an extremely pathetic and boyish hate. So I'd side with the north. Which would be a good thing considering they won.


My stance now is to make changes to allow an equal playing field for all. In all #ing honesty Americans had this coming. It is truly time that we some of the sufferinv we push on others. At this point I couldn't care less cause we are doomed. Americans will never see right from wrong. They will just try and justify their moronic actions and suffer the repercussions. Hey, like what's going on now!


Also, we didn't over throw a government. Britian is still very much around and was still very much a power after the war. We got them the # of one continent. There is a bit of an over dramatization in some respects to your post.

This is just great and and makes me wonder what will the other occupy movements will do in the US. I live in Tijuana, Mexico, some people tried doing an Occupy Tijuana and the cops came in without any notice and cleaned up the whole area, and put everyone in jail. If somebody would have shown up with a gun everyone (not just the armed person) would have been killed, even kids and women watching, our cops are the worst in the whole planet.

Anyways, this post made my day, finally somebody standing up behind us, not just the people, but the US Vets, that is a lot. I wish one day the borders disappear and we can fight tirany together, Canadians, Americans and Mexicans, fighting together.

In the mean time there is many of us getting ready for when the time comes, because, personally I think it will happen soon, all hell will break loose all over the planet. It will be like in Mad Max, and I'm sure one day we will win these cockroaches.

Americans, you guys started the occupy movement and you have a constitution that if it was fully respected by the authorities it would be the perfect place to live in the world. These guys just prooved that it still lives!! you are the most armed country in the planet, most families own guns and are trained to shoot, that makes you a big threat to these maniacs, you guys have them by the balls!!

Anyways, as soon as the party starts in San Diego, I'll cross the border and join you !

HAve a nice day, my world family

S&F

Originally posted by Sentinel412
reply to post by gamesmaster63

 

There is one thing what you don't understand Mr. Navy. You guys are on the very same side in this war. If you're against the thief Government, you'll be painted as a Nazi by the media. How do I know? Because you Americans did the very same with my country's protesters back in 2006 and 2007. We were the very same peaceful protesters and you guys called us as Nazis every time, when we stood up against our liar government and demanded change. And your media did the very-very same with other protesters from different countries who stood up against this zion-fascist criminals. Now it's your turn, so now, you'll be painted as a Nazi.

Trust me, Mister. Since you've chosen to stand on the side of the protesters, you're a Nazi as well in the eyes of the media and the Government, regardless what you believe or what you think about Nazis. Officially, you're one just as the guy who is protecting the citizens in Phoenix. You're on the same side, you like it or not.

I hope to never see people like him in a position of power or we will have to take another one down.

Check your government. They're full of people like the ones you hate. Zionists are the greatest Nazis and your government is full of them.

edit on 28-10-2011 by Sentinel412 because: (no reason given)

Actually, we are not on the same side, I do not support fascism.

As i said before, believe what you will. What the government believes I am doesn't matter to me, what does is what I believe I am, a Constitutionalist. All I was stating before is that this gentleman has declared himself a Nazi.

I will stand with my brothers and sisters, whether still in uniform or not, to support and defend the Constitution of the United States.

So, basically, although I respect your views and applaud your efforts in your own country, whichever that may be, I will have to disagree with you.

Peace friend.

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Be careful when you cross the border Amigo because you might find JT Ready and his border guards out there kidnapping brown people that are in the US illegally.

Originally posted by Sentinel412

This was in Budapest, Hungary, not in the United States. And here is a reference...

www.reuters.com...

These guys are not Nazis, regardless how Reuters and CNN claims. These guys are similar to your National Guard. And as far as I see CNN removed all the articles regarding October 23, 2006 and Reuters also removed everything prior 2007.

edit on 28-10-2011 by Sentinel412 because: (no reason given)

Some of us learned long ago not to trust what the MSM says about anything without other verification.

I have never thought that Hungarians were Nazis. I have always believed they were a proud and independent people.

Originally posted by FOXMULDER147
It's cool what they're doing but if the crap hit the fan these guys would be dead in 30 seconds. They're massively outnumbered, so in reality their guns are little more than props...

Wrong. Those are veterans with combat experience. Cops are just little piggies trying to look tough, once it hits, the piggies will run and the veterans will stay.

And just they TRY to kill veterans unprovoked... They do that, they won't make it home alive.

Originally posted by Oriion

2) No I know peole will say that they are not breaking the law. Again as stated, the problem is they are protesting on PRIVATE grounds (city property) that have laws regulating their uses. If these people find a private venue (ie, permission from a business or residence to hold their pretest) to voice their concerns, police can't legally do anything to deter them.

I will leave the rest of your post to stand unchallenged, but this one can't.
The protesters are not protesting on private grounds, city property is public property held by the city for it's citizens.

Originally posted by TKDRL
reply to post by Oriion

 

Hate to burst your bubble, but they are protesting on public property, not private property.... City property is paid for by us, how anyone can think that is private property is beyond me....

How does one throw challenge to the 1% without also challenging the government that passes law that aid the 1% in raping everyone? It seems to me the two should logically go hand in hand, no?

Yes, our freedoms are being eroded, especially by people that seem to think that rights are only for people they like. You see a lot of people that on one hand will yell about free speech, unless it happens to be something they do not wish to hear personally. Then they yell that those people should be silenced, take the god hates fags guys for example. Lots of people wish those guys to be silenced, including a lot of people here that are usually all for rights by people they like. Rights are for everyone, even people you find personally reprehensible.

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How true, as a staunch supporter of our Constitutional rights, I do not want any one silenced. If I don't like what they are saying, I don't listen or I walk away. I only react if they pursue me and violate my right to not listen, and I never react violently unless violence is offered first.

Originally posted by LDragonFire


After we declared our independence from Great Britain in 1776 we the United States didn't experience any wide spread turmoil until the civil war in 1860. You asked for a example of a government being overthrown by lethal force that isn't still in turmoil. I gave you two clear examples of what you say is impossible.

Sorry DragonFire, I have to point out a few things here:

1798-1800 Franco-American Naval War United States vs. France
1801-1805; 1815 Barbary Wars United States vs. Morocco, Algiers, Tunis, and Tripoli
1812-1815 War of 1812 United States vs. Great Britain
1813-1814 Creek War United States vs. Creek Indians
1836 War of Texas Independence Texas vs. Mexico
1846-1848 Mexican-American War United States vs. Mexico

And then all the wars of the last century. Although I hate to back crohny in almost anything, when he's right, he's right. We have spent almost our entire history involved in war and turmoil.

Judging by what he said in the interview JT has turned over a new leaf. Good on him!

Originally posted by Evolutionsend
Judging by what he said in the interview JT has turned over a new leaf. Good on him!

By reading some of his latest quotations it would appear he is as hateful and deluded as ever.

In His Own Words
“This is a white, European homeland. That’s how it should be preserved if we want to keep it clean, safe, and pure.”
— Ready speaking at a National Socialist Movement rally in Oct. 24, 2009

“The jew [sic] itself knows it is a parasite. I have had them admit as much to me and laugh in my face… But a parasite cannot carry on in its parasitic nature if it is exposed for what it really is. Their whole house of cards comes tumbling down for all to see. Like in 1933 Germany. Just because it has two legs, does not change its nature any less than a six-legged parasite stops sucking blood. There have been many pogroms when the host people stops being victims of these vampires. Another pogrom is approaching.”
— New Saxon blog posting, May 8, 2010

“This is the minuteman project on steroids. We’ve got people with assault weapons. We will use lawful, deadly force when appropriate.”
— KOLD News 13, June 21, 2010

J.T. Ready

Personally, if I found myself rationalizing the virtue of a hate monger because I agreed with their other viewpoints, I would take that as a strong caution that I may want to reevaluate some of my own beliefs.

Just a thought...

reply to post by gamesmaster63

Originally posted by RealAmerican23
reply to post by Blundo

 

I JUST FIGURED THIS OUT AND HAD TO CREATE AN ATS ACCOUNT IMMEDIATELY TO LET PEOPLE KNOW WTF IS GOING ON!!!! THE WHOLE REASON OBAMA IS BRINGING THE TROOPS FROM IRAQ BACK HOME IS SO THAT THEY CAN RELEASE THEM INTO AMERICA TO PATROL US(MARTIAL LAW!!!!). ALL THE TROOPS ARE PROBABLY IN A CRAZY STATE OF MIND RIGHT NOW FROM ALL THE FIGHTING THEY HAVE BEEN DOING IN THE WAR. AND ARE NOT GOING TO THINK ABOUT QUESTIONING THE GOVERNMENTS MOTIVES, THEY ARE GOING TO TELL THE TROOPS THAT THE ONES PROTESTING AND QUESTIONING THE GOVERNMENT ARE UNAMERICAN AND TERRORIST, THIS # IS SERIOUS!!!!!!!


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Ummm but you forgot one thing. Obama and his whole crew support the OWS crowd, whereas they declared the peaceful and tidy Tea Party dangerous to the Homeland. I think they really meant the Tea Party was a danger to the socialist welfare State they are setting up.

Wow!, well In my case It wouldn't be illegal, but thanks for the tip... So this guy is like a Minute Man?

Great, lie and make up police brutality in other cities so then one area of the US actually gives police an excuse to be prepared to use force to keep people in check.

Great job veterans, well done.

*slow clap*

Originally posted by molovino
Wow!, well In my case It wouldn't be illegal, but thanks for the tip... So this guy is like a Minute Man?

Ya, He's kind of like a minuteman. I admire the minutemen, really I do. I believe they are doing what they think is right. I may not agree with their methods or words, I do enjoy seeing people exercising their rights.

As someone mentioned above, it appears that he has turned a new leaf. I can not sense any hate in his words in the video.

Originally posted by Blundo

Wow, Amazing but yet terrifying at the same time.

I wonder what a police officer would do if he was confronted by them? Especially if they are only armed with rubber bullets and tear gas.

edit on 27-10-2011 by Blundo because: (no reason given)

If they are doing so, they will be shot, watch and see. How totally dumb.

Originally posted by Drunkenparrot

Did you miss these parts of the thread...?

JT is a bottom feeder.

Originally posted by NoNameBrand
reply to post by Drunkenparrot

 

You literally beat me to posting this by less than a minute. After even a quick search there is a lot of info on this guy. Do people not do research themselves anymore?

just listen to some guy on a YT video like it is gospel???

And they call us sheeple!

Yeah.. you're point? All I had said was that he knew his stuff, and that's referring to the discussion in the video about constitutional rights and our monetary system. Was what he said in the video regarding those things not correct? It was..

And as to the comment from "NoNameBrand".. why would I feel a need to research? Is this JT fellow saying anything in the video at all that I didn't already know? No..

"Hmm there's a big guy on youtube speaking known facts about our constitution and the federal reserve.. better go see what his story is!". Having said that.. I'm glad that you did, just don't give anybody who didn't a hard time

Originally posted by UnaChispa


As someone mentioned above, it appears that he has turned a new leaf. I can not sense any hate in his words in the video.

How about this, can you feel any hate in his goosestep?



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