Lunar photo-enhancements reveal alien civilization evidence.

Originally posted by dtrock78
While I believe in the existence of ET, I dont believe this theory that's out there concerning the fact we were banned from the moon.

Regardless, the Japanese are heading there soon, so it will put an end to the this one way or the other.

No, I do not believe the astonauts were banned either. How were the beings in the alien craft able to communicate with the astronauts? Would their presence on the rim of the crater have been enough to tell the Apollo team that the moon is already occupied? Personally, I have no idea. What I do know is that after the Apollo 17 mission no more manned missions took place. This was probably due to financial constraints plus the fact that the missions to Mars were being planned.

With reference to the future Japanese mission the question I ask is, will they release the imaging into the public domain?

Anyway, returning to the images, I shall try and find some more images with shapes on the surface that could only have been constructed by a race of beings with advanced intelligence.

The Japanese extensively mapped the Moon recently, and I believe theyve released all footage of their efforts oniline.

This is the best I could do to convert the image from the 16 bits IMG (available here) to a Internet friendly format.



Not much difference between this and the original posted on the first page.

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They did, but I think that they haven't released everything, sometimes they post on their site that something new was added.

You can see it here.

Originally posted by arianna
Without getting off-topic too much, have you ever stopped to consider the possibility that thousands of years ago the civilizations on Mars may have been faced with such a catastrophic situation that the only way out was a mass exodus of people from the planet. The nearest neighbors would be this planet and 'our' moon.

Definitely believe this is a possibility, only it would have been much longer ago than thousands of years. There is a very high probability that Mars was inhabitable a long time ago. My only point was Earth is a relatively short hop from our Moon and has a much more hospitable environment for a long term living arrangement....

Originally posted by arianna

And there lies a possible explanation why architectural shapes and artistic forms can be seen in some of the images of the lunar surface.

Without getting off-topic too much, have you ever stopped to consider the possibility that thousands of years ago the civilizations on Mars may have been faced with such a catastrophic situation that the only way out was a mass exodus of people from the planet. The nearest neighbors would be this planet and 'our' moon. There is evidence of crashed spacecraft on the lunar surface and plent of evidence on this planet to suggest that members of a extraterrestrial civilization could have made it here as well.

Yes, there is a chance that Mars was a habitable Planet (which doesn't mean there was intelligent life) but Mars is pretty much in the condition that it is today for 3 billion years. So this Exodus must logically have occurred prior to the time Mars turned into the barren Planet it is. Therefore, your timeline is way off, unless you claim that the Martians live on the Moon for 3 billion years now. A migration to Earth is also not logical because 3 billion years ago Earth was not the pretty Planet we know, but a hellhole. Not to mention of course the logical flaw of your hypothesis that is the question of why trading one barren Planet (Mars) for another barren "Planet" (Moon).
A nice article on Mars is here, in Astrobiology Magazine The Three Ages Of Mars
But careful, reading some real science could be dangerous to your beliefs.

And please, show me the evidence you claim exists for crashed spacecraft on the Moon. I can't wait to see that.

One factor to consider is that wherever a civilization migrates to they always take aspects of their art and culture with them. In the case of people from Mars their technical and artistic skills would have been carried with them. If the Martian mass exodus theory is seriously considered, it is more than possible that ancient martians may have adapted to the hostile conditions on the Moon and more than possible that their descendants may still be in residence. Some of their species may have arrived on Earth as well.

A mass migration of an advanced race of beings from another planet could possibly explain why during the neolithic period around 3500BC there was an 'explosion' of advanced thinking and intelligent design and construction in many different areas around the world. The ancient stone-age peoples would not have had the advanced intelligence required to create the many megalithic structures that are still in evidence today.

Well...see above...your timeline doesn't fit... plus, the length of time Mars maybe (big maybe) was habitable was by all standards too short to develop a highly advanced civilization that could have mastered space travel.

Please explain why the people of 3500 BC where to dumb to do what they did? Also please explain what happened to the martian space ships etc, since they came here from a dying Planet, they obviously stayed, and with them the space ships. Also, given how advanced they were, why did they build (since as you say the stone age folks didn't) these measly stone structures and not Skyscrapers and start a car factory...why would they turn into stone age people themselves, given all the high tech gear and knowledge they had?

Can you offer a reasonable explanation?

I have found an image which includes many objects. Image no. AS17-23086 (Apollo 17)

A very large object is resting on the rim of the crater. Is this object part of a crashed spacecraft?

In this image some of the areas of interest have been circled.



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Here is the view without markings.



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Here is the full view of the above image. Image no.AS17-23085.

The image has been slightly enhanced and the color saturation increased.

Look carefully into this image as there are some amazing sights to observe.



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reply to post by arianna

A very large object is resting on the rim of the crater. Is this object part of a crashed spacecraft?

Nope.

Exposed rock outcroppings.


In case this has not yet been pointed out.....the image from Apollo 17 is from film magazine #150. It was taken from Lunar orbit, so this was at minimum of 126 km (**) above the surface. Keep that altitude in mind, in order to judge the scale of what you are viewing, there.

Also, here is the original image:

www.lpi.usra.edu...

As you see, its time of exposure was during Orbit 29:

....Revolution: 29
Latitude / Longitude: 2.8° N / 113.6° E
Lens Focal Length: 80 mm....

(**) Note:

Camera Altitude: 126 km

.....

....Sun Elevation: 67°
Mission Activity: REV 29....

Anyone who is interested may access more recent Lunar photos, from the LRO camera archives as example. Here are the Latitude/Longitude coordinates:

Latitude / Longitude: 2.8° N / 113.6° E

Originally posted by arianna
Some members seem concerned that the enhancement procedure has degraded the image.

Here is the main image without any shadow-enhancement.

No softening or sharpening has been applied only adjustments made to the brightness and contrast.

Direct link: i985.photobucket.com...

You are correct sir~!! I found something that caught my eye as to be 'unnatural' .. at first I was like, "ok .. i see 'trails' and i've seen this picture multiple time on ATS so....what about them"

As i've learned to just observe what is there, i kept following the 'trails' to their end over and over, when i realized the trails aren't natural.. in the fact that ..

there are exact spaces between each of the trails ..or near exact distance between the 'marks' on the trail..even in 1/6th gravity of earth, the exactness of the trails are not natural to me..

why would bolders even be rolling on the moons surface ?? and all in one direction??

Originally posted by Komodo
why would bolder even be rolling on the moons surface ??

Rocks are blown away from impact events (asteroid impacts). Some rocks will roll farther and faster if they are rolling downhill.

There is no erosion on the moon, so some of these trails could be millions (perhaps even billions) of years old.

reply to post by ProudBird


well.. you see what you want to see but I see a very BLACK exact rectangle on the 'out cropping' .. that is NOT natural ..

Originally posted by Soylent Green Is People

Originally posted by Komodo
why would bolder even be rolling on the moons surface ??

Rocks are blown away from impact events (asteroid impacts). Some rocks will roll farther and faster if they are rolling downhill.

There is no erosion on the moon, so some of these trails could be millions (perhaps even billions) of years old.

there are exact spaces between each of the trails ..or near exact distance between the 'marks' on the trail..even in 1/6th gravity of earth,

why are ALL of them the same .. ??

reply to post by Komodo


Do you mean in this heavily altered, heavily artificially colorized image?:

i985.photobucket.com...

About middle, slightly to left of center? The prominent *blob* thing? I see a long, dark nearly rectangular feature, a play on light and shadow on a perfectly normal geologic (well.. "selenologic", since it's the Moon) feature.

Guess a little detail re: this image is still being overlooked, as well. The scale of what we are looking at. The camera, using an 80mm lens focal length, was at an altitude of 126 kilometers over the surface.

An 80 mm lens has a bit of "tele-photo" enhancing capability, but isn't much "longer" than the standard 50 - 55 mm lens that gives a camera image about the same "look" as the unaided Human eye. Anyone who has ever owned an SLR camera will understand this aspect of photography.

SO, from an orbital height of 126 km.....judging by the relative size, it is far, far too large to be anything except a feature of the Moon's surface. Compare to similar photos taken of Earth, from orbit. Features on Earth that we are familiar with, because we can walk up to them and touch them, if we want to.

Here, for example:



Just found on the Web....obviously, the Middle East, Sinai Peninsula. I presume from the ISS or a Space Shuttle mission, perhaps someone can look it up to get exact details. But, point is....at most, maybe twice the orbital height from the Earth's surface as that Apollo 17 image is taken from.

Just, for perspective of scale. Also, in the Apollo 17 photo, we know its location, so the craters shown can be identified with a little research, and then their sizes known......also for comparison. You will find that the prominent craters viewable from that height are many kilometers in diameter........

reply to post by arianna


Arianna, that's one of the problems with "Believers", making grandiose and authoritative statements - "A very large object..." with either not understanding basic science or just flat out ignoring it.

ProudBird pointed out the minimum information required to make any statement about the size of an object on a photograph. Distance, Lens, Angle, etc.... without this information, you're merely guessing, and this guess is of course biased by what you want to believe. Well, ProudBird pointed you to the required information, let's see if you can come up with the Math and calculate the size of the "object" (if it is an object)...then we'll talk.

On the other subject: For Astronauts being under the watch of menacing Aliens, that warned them to get the he** out, the Apollo 17 crew was quite a happy bunch:
Apollo 17 Singing Astronauts

And again...6 Moonlandings and no interstellar war... and for the n-th time: NASA had its budget cut, so their choice was to keep going with the planned Apollo 18/19/20 missions OR develop the Space Shuttle and Skylab.

Originally posted by Komodo

Originally posted by Soylent Green Is People

Originally posted by Komodo
why would bolder even be rolling on the moons surface ??

Rocks are blown away from impact events (asteroid impacts). Some rocks will roll farther and faster if they are rolling downhill.

There is no erosion on the moon, so some of these trails could be millions (perhaps even billions) of years old.

there are exact spaces between each of the trails ..or near exact distance between the 'marks' on the trail..even in 1/6th gravity of earth,

why are ALL of them the same .. ??

edit on 3-11-2011 by Komodo because: (no reason given)

but the power of observation should NOT be ignored.. what you see is what is there PERIOD.. even Armap reposted the OP pic in slightly different format and said it was NOT really different than the OP

objects or not.. the OP was the 'boulders' and the 'trails' they were making..

to which, so far, there are NO answer to my already asked question ..

there are exact spaces between each of the trails ..or near exact distance between the 'marks' on the trail..even in 1/6th gravity of earth, why are ALL of them the same .. ??

reply to post by nv4711

And again...6 Moonlandings and no interstellar war... and for the n-th time: NASA had its budget cut, so their choice was to keep going with the planned Apollo 18/19/20 missions OR develop the Space Shuttle and Skylab.

interesting you mentioned this.. because the OP never did suggest anything of the sorts.......even went on to say .. they were merely an observation.. and would agree he would be wrong if they indeed were a natural occurrence..however, we haven't come to any conclusion as such ..

I am very grateful for the input that has been posted by members.

Thank you Proudbird for your references relating to the Apollo image. I have so much documentation associated with my research over the years that I could not lay my hands on the relevant documentation at the time.

The large object seen on the rim of the crater could well be a natural formation but personally I do not think it is. The diameter of the crater is a vast distance across so if the object was a crashed spacecraft it would have been a huge machine which I assume could be possible for a very advanced and intelligent race of beings. There is another image of a craft on the lunar surface which I believe was spotted on an overflight by the Apollo 17 crew.

The other item of interest in the images is what would appear to be a very tall tower which seems to be placed in the middle of some large constructions. I will post a crop to highlight this particular object.

Keep in mind the scale at which you are viewing this object from. If someone has the time, it would be interesting to figure out. I'm guessing it is several miles in length.

In terms of the these lines, which Ive stated previously are geomorphic stress fractures, I've found another example for you. I'm willing to bet, there is a large impact crater on the moon fairly close to where these "lines'.

Below is another example of stress fractures on Ganymede. Notice the top right of the drawing.

Here is a crop of the original image in two different widths. (300 and 600 pixels)

The 'trails' can be seen running through the image but now they would appear to be something else.

What is your opinion about what can be observed in the view?