This is somthing productive for the OWS'ers to do.

Lately it looks like some of the OWS protests are starting to get violent. Now viloence is the last thing we want to see, because once you've crossed that line its pretty darn hard to go back. Now no one knows if there were violent protestors, violent cops or someone planted to start violence but the situation still stands. There IS viloence going on at the protest.

So for the protestors out there that dont want to see any violence here is alittle somthing you could do to possibly help remind the officers to keep the peace and what they became officers for.

Police Officers Oath of Ethics

You can print this out and have some pages stapled to the back with blank lines on them for the officer to sign and print his name. If the officer is true to his oath he should have absolutly no problem signing it again.


So lets get out there and remind these officers the oath they swore apon when they decided to put that badge on their shirt.


Below is the oath if you dont want to use the link

Ethical oath for police officers
The ethical oath for police officers is taken by all police officers on completion of the Diploma in Police Studies. The oath is normally taken at the Police School in the presence of the National Police Commissioner. Family members, friends, teaching staff and other representatives will also be present.

The ethical oath was introduced at the beginning of 2001.

The oath reads as follows:

Oath concerning the professional ethics of police officers

I DO SOLEMNLY DECLARE UPON MY HONOUR AND CONSCIENCE THAT I WILL ACT AT ALL TIMES TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY AND KNOWLEDGE IN A MANNER BEFITTING A POLICE OFFICER

I WILL PRESERVE THE DIGNITY AND WILL RESPECT THE RIGHTS OF ALL INDIVIDUALS

I WILL DISCHARGE MY DUTIES WITH INTEGRITY AND WILL PROMOTE UNDERSTANDING AND CONCILIATION

I WILL EXERCISE MY AUTHORITY AS A POLICE OFFICER IN THE MANNER INTENDED BY THE LAW

I WILL FAITHFULLY OBEY THE ORDERS OF MY SUPERIORS AND WILL BE READY TO CONFRONT DANGER IN THE LINE OF DUTY

I WILL ACT WITH HONESTY, COURTESY AND REGARD FOR THE WELFARE OF OTHERS, AND WILL ENDEAVOUR TO DEVELOP THE ESPRIT DE CORPS

I WILL ACT JUSTLY AND IMPARTIALLY AND WITH PROPRIETY TOWARDS MY FELLOW OFFICERS

I WILL CONSTANTLY STRIVE TO HONOUR THIS OATH IN MY SERVICE AS A POLICE OFFICER

reply to post by Talltexxxan


You wouldn't want me there then. If I was there peacefully protesting and I got tear gassed and shot at with rubber bullet and flash bangs I would get violent. I don't understand how some members want us to be the obedient sheep the elite want us to be. I hate violence, and it comes with a high price.

You have to do a situation analysis. I have done mine. If you look around with open eyes and see what is going on you will realize peaceful people are being attacked by the people who should protect them.

Every single cop who fired a tear gas canister or a flash bang is a Nazi thug. I don't care if you don't like my label, it is an accurate description. Do not feel pity or defend the cops who brutally attacked these protestors. Yes, I would have become violent to. Those cops there that night were not serving or protecting the people. They were serving and protecting the corrupt system that pays their paychecks.

The problem with toppling this system is that it will leave us with nothing and total anarchy. But it is beyond that point. The world wide sentiment is not a fringe hippie movement. The world's consciousness is changing and many can feel it.

It won't be long before we see police putting down the riot gear and joining the protesters, if they know what's good for them. All the military vets are not going to stand by and watch the cops brutalize the protestors. Once the cops join the protests, the military will be deployed, American troops will also revolt. They will not herd their citizens like cattle. American troops know the corrupt system they work for and are sick of it too.

My guess is that American troops will be deployed to the upcoming wars they have lined up in the Middle East. Due to the lack of troops at home I guess foreign troops will be deployed on U.S. soil. Then SHTF.

reply to post by Corruption Exposed


Agreed that there are alot of bad apples in the police force nowadays but you cant go by the addage 1 bad apple spoils the bunch. And I am in no way condoning the violent actions of these officers, I think its absoltly horrible. Believe me if I were there and got gassed I would be right in the middle throwing those canisters back at them. My point is in hope that we could get some officers to re-sign their oath in the cities that havn't gotten violent yet.

reply to post by Talltexxxan


Sorry about that. I must have misunderstood your initial point. Apologies if my post seemed off topic.

It would be good to remind them of their oaths. It might wake them up a little. Kind of like an epiphany.

So where's the oath for the protestors? Is there one? I didn't think so.

Originally posted by JIMC5499
So where's the oath for the protestors? Is there one? I didn't think so.

Not being rude, but whats your point.
Does their need to be a "protestors oath"

I would think that the citizens oath should be enough

I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God.

Originally posted by JIMC5499
So where's the oath for the protestors? Is there one? I didn't think so.

Why would the protestors need an oath? Protesting is not a job that they are getting paid for, meanwhile the police are doing a job and they have certain guidelines to follow including their oath. Once the officers start violating their oaths then it's fair game.

I guess my point is there is a huge difference between protesters causing a minor public disturbance in the form of a peaceful protest against a very corrupt system versus a bunch of policemen violating their oaths and teargasing people and much more.

There seems to be a lot of different opinions on this whole situation. It is interesting to hear everyone's point of view.

That will do little good, because the police remember their oath.

There is a large group of OWS even here on ATS advocating violence. Within this group there is another large group advocating violence against police.

Originally posted by Talltexxxan
I would think that the citizens oath should be enough

I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God.

I agree. I wonder how many of these protestors even know what this is?

Heres the OWS oath.

I agree that Sh#% is F&*%'ed up.
I will abide by no laws and declare it peaceable assembly.
By doing so I declare that I have constitutional rights to piss on the sidewalk, obstruct pedestrians, camp out in parks etc.
I will guard against tyranny with tyranny.
I will fight crime with crime.

Hard to tell the good guys from the bad guys these days...and that's exactly how some like it.

The crowd should kick anybody's butt who does anything that will bring retaliation on everyone. Police the streets themselves.

The whole deal smells from the beginning and a lot of folk are getting totally pwned. Acorn & the like stirs it up in the first place and then the same instigators who pull their strings send in the provocateurs.

ITEOTWAWKI...and I feel fine.

Originally posted by JIMC5499

Originally posted by Talltexxxan
I would think that the citizens oath should be enough

I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God.

I agree. I wonder how many of these protestors even know what this is?

My guess would be probley not many.



But like Currupt said. The police are there doing a job and are getting paid. The protestors are doing their job as US citizens but are not getting paid to do it. I guess the issue is who's getting paid to do what.

Originally posted by thehoneycomb
Heres the OWS oath.

I agree that Sh#% is F&*%'ed up.
I will abide by no laws and declare it peaceable assembly.
By doing so I declare that I have constitutional rights to piss on the sidewalk, obstruct pedestrians, camp out in parks etc.
I will guard against tyranny with tyranny.
I will fight crime with crime.

Im pretty sure you've been watching too much MSM bud.
I went to the Houston OWS. And I didnt see anything of the sorts going on.
So your saying that if certain people do certain things then thats what the whole is doing?

Hmmmm.... sounds alot like stereotyping my friend. And we all know that as some fall into their stereotypes, but the majority couldnt be further from.

tisk.... tisk... tisk

reply to post by Talltexxxan


No I've been talking to OWSers on this forum.

Not grouping you all as a whole, it only takes one.

I do applaud you in your effort though. You seem more educated then most.

reply to post by thehoneycomb


Well Im pretty sure that you started grouping as a whole when you put up your OWS'ers oath, impliying that is what ALL people in the OWS movement abide by.

So which one is it? Do you think that every person at these locations is a violent anarchist that likes to piss in public view? Im sorry sir but your " OWS'ers oath" couldnt be further from the way the educated protestor feels.

The OWS'ers you've been talking to must have been a bunch of ignorant adolecents that truly have no clue what the movement is about and are just looking for a reason to be a$$holes.

reply to post by Talltexxxan


I see the OWS movement as instigators pointing fingers at the wrong people.
I see no coherent cause or message. I see a largely uneducated stance and a large criminal element within the group.

I see a group that has been endorsed by nazi's, socialists, communists, democrats and labor unions the world over.

What do you see?

reply to post by thehoneycomb


agreed,

But then again any group wants to get their name attached to somthing that is getting woldwide attention. Granted that there is not a whole lot of direction with the movement but thats okay, because atleast they are getting noticed. And if people start to take notice, then maybe, just maybe they will turn off MSM for a minute and do some research of their own. Thats how I found ATS. So if little ole me can find a community that I can learn and discuss important topics with, then so can everyone else.

reply to post by Talltexxxan


Loose morals and ethics.

It is no wonder they are getting noticed and said endorsements.

Originally posted by thehoneycomb
reply to post by Talltexxxan

 

Loose morals and ethics.

It is no wonder they are getting noticed and said endorsements.

Well bud, Im not going to keep repeating what I've previously said in prior posts. So it seems like your main gripe is that there are some "less than ethical" people in the OWS crowd. So I will refer you to my first post after the OP.

One question for ya though? Have you actually been to one of the meets?
If not, then you really shouldnt judge a book by a MSM cover.

reply to post by Talltexxxan


I typically don't wish to associate myself with things I do not agree with.