Billy Meier Leaping UFO Tree

I know the leaping tree has been discussed before, but I was fiddling with a couple of the photos and found what I thought was a good example of it. Amazing how that tree gets around.

reply to post by Blue Shift


Very nice.
This is why Billy Meier's face is the Hoax bin avatar here.

reply to post by Blue Shift


Yep. Billy Meier is a hoax.

He's got some great philosophies that deserve some respect, plus, he's been doing this gig for some 50 years which also deserves some respect, but, on the alien and UFO front, he's a hoax.

You can even pay him $600 a year to work on his farm. There are certainly over 100 members of FIGU that do so for the privilege of meeting and discussing their organization together at Meier's farm.

It's very Huckleberry Finn, getting all these people to pay him money for the privilege to 'whitewash his fence', work his farm for him. Very nice con job, that deserves some hats off respect.

reply to post by nineix


He deserves respect because he is a master at manipulation to the point of evolving to a master predator in regards to naivete of his prey? Yeah, that deserves much props.

IBHB.

Originally posted by DerbyCityLights
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He deserves respect because he is a master at manipulation to the point of evolving to a master predator in regards to naivete of his prey? Yeah, that deserves much props.

IBHB.

Just say'n, he's got a good con.
People pay him good money to work FOR him, where the typical business model works the other way around where you pay people to work for you.
At over 100 people yearly congregating to his farm for week long scheduled visits at $600 a pop where one of the requirements of visitation is to work his farm, he's got a happy and well stocked rotating work force that brings in a decent revenue on top of any profits or returns made from the products of the farm itself.

I'm not saying this deserves admirable respect, but, respect in in a sense that he's got a con job running that people are completely willingly volunteering their money and labor to the perpetuation of the con job, with a fairly steady, and at times growing reserve of followers that recruit other followers.

It's really quite fascinating.

yeah I know he's a hoax and everything, but I think is a pic of the tree from two different angle and therefor making it appear to move to somewhere else.

Can you clarify what the point you're making is, for those of us ignorant of the 'leaping tree'?

All I see is super-imposed images of the same scene taken from different fixed points, which proves nothing at all.

reply to post by FOXMULDER147


Strange, you didn't get an answer.

Billy Meier has been hijacked by a cult. Randy Winters (even though I believe he makes plenty from it himself) states as much.

I feel sorry for Billy if this is the case.

As Foxmulder above said, it is unclear as to what you are proposing. I can see that,there are 2 different backgrounds in 2 different photos and can also observe the image of the tree changing while transition.

Originally posted by Blue Shift
I know the leaping tree has been discussed before, but I was fiddling with a couple of the photos and found what I thought was a good example of it. Amazing how that tree gets around.

Those are two different trees dude.

Originally posted by SuperSmartGuy

Those are two different trees dude.

Not at all.

Clearly the same potted shrub photographed from the same angle but, as the op points out, placed in a different location. The toy saucer is simply repositioned on its wire attaching it to the plant.

reply to post by torsion


Actually it is clearly the same tree but taken from a different angle. Hence the ocean in the background, and forest to the right of the tree.

I'm still confused by what the OP is suggesting.

It still looks though that this large craft is merely mounted somehow to the tree.

Originally posted by LightAssassin
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Actually it is clearly the same tree but taken from a different angle. Hence the ocean in the background, and forest to the right of the tree.

I'm still confused by what the OP is suggesting.

It still looks though that this large craft is merely mounted somehow to the tree.

edit on 26-10-2011 by LightAssassin because: (no reason given)

I see no evidence that either the tree or the "craft" are large. It's photographed in such a way as to give them no frame of reference. Could just as easily be the same diorama from a different perspective. Not only hoaxable, but HIGHLY hoaxable using techniques of the lowest sophistication. My kid could do better [and has].

Originally posted by SuperSmartGuy

Originally posted by Blue Shift
I know the leaping tree has been discussed before, but I was fiddling with a couple of the photos and found what I thought was a good example of it. Amazing how that tree gets around.

Those are two different trees dude.

Have to agree ... those are 2 different trees.

Yes, you will see an infinite number of "different trees" depending on your viewing angle.




Same height, same width, same trunk, same clump at the crown, same flying saucer model attached...



I'm going with same.

Yes, this tree of Billy Meier's has a habit of finding itself in different locations around the Swiss countryside: billymeierufocase.com...

You can find out more about the Billy Meier UFO Case by clicking the link in my signature.

-Derek

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[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/b7b65514ee30.jpg[/atsimg]

For the "Same Tree" argument to have any meaning, the following points should be fulfilled

1] the imaginary line angle that passes from the camera to the tree with respect to the background(same or different) should be equal or nearly equal
2] we should not find any dissimilarities among the different pictures of the trees.

As you can see from the above image, we find dissimilarities(violet markings 1,2,3) that are strikingly obvious. And when we take time and compare, you will find many. What Dereck shows to be similarities are not even close to being same, as they can be seen clearly as different structures. This clearly is unscientific.

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Its the same tree from different angles man.

reply to post by DerbyCityLights


Do refer again, to my previous post with the picture..There are considerable differences in both the trees. If the trees in the pictures are also the same tree, then we would see the same profile and outline of the tree in all pictures even if the tree is photographed from different angles, which obviously is not the case here. So, the argument "its the same tree" is weak.

Besides, it makes no difference between the arguments that, 'it is the same tree in other Meier' UFO pictures' & 'Same tree cropped and decorated in other pictures'. First argument is no more better than the second argument in validating the claim that its 'a model UFO with a model tree'. If i am missing any connections here, let me know.

The right questions we have to ask here is:
Has any photo analysis been done on the concerned photo ? and
Are they model or real species of trees ?

Any native or a knowledgeable person(experts, scientists, academics) on ecology, forestry, gardening..would be able to answer that.

reply to post by mahigitam


Looks like the same tree to me just from a different perspective. I don't care how you spin it.