Life's purpose is to make you christian.

To the decent and functional readers of this forum, I apologize for the excessive and irrational language in my recent post, but I have myself now for two years regurlarly been exposed to such a language from invasive evangelists, whose arguments can't stand by themselves, and where said evangelists instead resort to character-attacks (which are ignored by pro-christian biased 'moderators' and where these posts stay intact, without so much as a warning).

Whereas the brilliant former contributor 'Madnessinmysoul' was banned for using the word 'stupid' in some context. The religious sub-forums have become conspiracies in themselves, being 'moderator'-protected outlets for christian fanatism.

I have no intentions of participating, or even being a 'member' of such a forum, but unfortunately it seems impossible to terminate an ATS membership officially. So dramatic as it may appear to be, my only option is to get myself banned, which hopefully will be soon.

(As I have posted almost identical versions of this all over the place, it shouldn't take long, before the complaints start rolling in, leading towards my aim. Invasive evangelists are notorious for their inability to handle criticism or opposition).

Originally posted by ShortMemory
reply to post by Burgo1010

 

I don't need to, Each to their own, Treat others how they treat you ... pretty simple really ... peace

see thats the thing christianity effects everyone, not just the people who believe it..
i bet you dont even properly understand your religion

Yes, how about we all go out and treat christians like their missionairys treat us.

Step one: Grab a (Lets say... hmm... Lets all grab a book of shadows. [If you dont know what that is, look it up])
Step two: Find missionary
Step three: BEAT THEM OVER THE HEAD WITH THE BOOK REPEATEDLY FOR ANYWHERE FROM 1 HOUR TO 20 DAYS.
Step four: Hide the body.

reply to post by etherical waterwave


My dear, there is no advantage in being a Christian. There is advantage in understanding what Jesus said.

Christian is just a label.

Jesus asked you to believe in him - means believe in what he preached.

If you are truthful, honest, and non-violent, you get Jesus's message. Otherwise it is just a lot of noise but no substance.

Originally posted by ShortMemory
reply to post by Burgo1010

 

I don't need to, Each to their own, Treat others how they treat you ... pretty simple really ... peace

see thats the thing Christianity effects everyone, not just the people who believe it..
i bet you dont even properly understand your religion

I understand lord Jesus Christ is very real & saved me, I understand the "religion" was misled from paganism.
Lord Jesus Christ never brought "religion" he brought a new commandment & hope for all ...

Originally posted by bogomil
And yours is still another expression of zombified fanatism, originating from a religious psychosis or sub-standard intelligence.

Oh so scary wooooo
As for your threat to beat me or missionaries over the head for how they treat you ... lol ... you don't know me mate ... keep dreaming
Do you honestly believe I give a crap about your soul ... no ... that's your job not anyone else's although if I saw you in trouble I'd probably help you because I'm a sub intelligent

I was born with a belief in Christ, My mum & dad never preached to me lol ... I lived an hardcore life of booze, drugs, juvenile lockup, was abused as a kid ... I was lost in speed psychosis so I begged the Lord to help me ... He Did ... Don't like that .... TOUGH ....

please delete

Originally posted by Burgo1010

Originally posted by bogomil

Originally posted by Burgo1010

Originally posted by ShortMemory
ive been reading a bit of this thread any i really need to say this
christians you have a serious mental disorder

And yours is still another expression of zombified fanatism, originating from a religious psychosis or sub-standard intelligence.

Oh so scary wooooo

Apparantly you don't understand the difference between trying to be scary and being deliberately insulting (as I've been today). Turning deliberate insultingness into a two-way process, instead of the socalled 'moderator' protected christian privilege of making it a one-way process.

Originally posted by etherical waterwave

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by FugitiveSoul
How can that be when Christ himself didn't want to start Christianity? His goal was to get the Jews back on track, not start a new religion, which would become a bastardization of Judaism and Paganism.

But no one can even prove "mythical biblical Christ".

I don't doubt there was a politico being by the name of Jesus. Its part of actual history of the time.

Jesus is truth, methaphysically it would be a vibration. Hasn't truth never proved something to you?

Pure BS. Nothing in real history supports the "mythical biblical Jesus". NOTHING.

There is real history that supports several men named Jesus at this specific time. And real history supports political events that myths could be built on. Kind of like some of the mythical versions of some of America's frontier men and outlaws Johnny Appleseed being one of them.

Oh - and I was raised Christian. So I don't need a sermon.

reply to post by Annee

Pure BS. Nothing in real history supports the "mythical biblical Jesus". NOTHING. There is real history that supports several men named Jesus at this specific time. And real history supports political events that myths could be built on. Kind of like some of the mythical versions of some of America's frontier men and outlaws Johnny Appleseed being one of them. Oh - and I was raised Christian. So I don't need a sermon.

With history you are reading someones account of said history. It can work both ways. Just saying.

Originally posted by jhill76
reply to post by Annee

 

Pure BS. Nothing in real history supports the "mythical biblical Jesus". NOTHING. There is real history that supports several men named Jesus at this specific time. And real history supports political events that myths could be built on. Kind of like some of the mythical versions of some of America's frontier men and outlaws Johnny Appleseed being one of them. Oh - and I was raised Christian. So I don't need a sermon.

With history you are reading someones account of said history. It can work both ways. Just saying.

I was in a 60 year quest to find god - to find truth. End result Atheist.

Sorry - - don't have a bibliography of 60 years worth of information. There were record keepers.

And NO - - "the victor writes history does not apply". The ongoing search to prove Jesus - continues today - - still with zero results.

I suppose it is a personal choice to believe or not. Can you see what one says or not? I don't know where you guys came from to say all the things you said. Everybody is just angry. Truth you cannot see, but truth exists. When you are spiritual you are a christian. There is only one spirituality. I think it's just best to let people be but I didn't invite you to this thread. You just came here doing your thing. Where I live .. I don't know. Spirituality is personal and where one grew in is hard to explain. It just makes you who you are. It's personal.

Is religion so forced in the U.S.? You can't push one to believe. It's just the experience. All I want to say is that when you experience it you just automatically wish for others to feel good too and hope for all misery in the world to end, and it will.

I just want us to come to a collective comprehension that what is meant with christianity is spirituality. One said that christianity and spirituality are two different things? I think the average american is too Box-minded. All things should get blended together. A morther has things in comment with a politician and a farmer has things in common with someone who chops wood. Judgemental, that is the word. You accuse! There is no unity or the unity there is is illusionary. Just fix it, Jesus. Live!..

I know you just want to run naked across the street without being arrested. To go loose. Things are strange nowadays. Just keep yourself healthy. Says me, the one smoking sigarettes.

I don't know. Peace.

We just should be left alone doing what each of us does and we will get it eventualy. Then there seems to be a choice. Will I believe? Maybe there are just too many who crossed the line already and don't want to go back no more. Crying helps

.. a belgian believer.... we aren't faggets.

Topic of this thread was: Life's purpose is to become a christian. Think about it. Thx!

Originally posted by etherical waterwave
We just should be left alone doing what each of us does and we will get it eventualy.

Topic of this thread was: Life's purpose is to become a christian. Think about it. Thx!

If Christians in the USA would just go about their business and leave everyone alone - - that would be great. But they keep insisting on being involved in politics and denying rights of others.

If Christians anywhere would just go about their business - - but part of Christianity is spreading the word. So that's not going to happen.

One's Life Purpose is defined by the individual - - - whether they believe in Christ or not.

Originally posted by etherical waterwave
Every day offers the opportunity to become spiritual. It begins already at very young age. We are spiritualy introduced to believe in Jesus. Life then on makes you a believe and makes you out your belief.

I mean that spirituality is offered in life. One doesn't have to read the bible to become a christian. If christianity only was possible reading the bible then it would had nothing to do with life. Jesus 'lives'. Jesus is the way, the truth and the life. Jesus you run across in your life.

Spiritualy you are formed in the life!!

The bible is a nice tool for study but what the bible tells you come across in your life.

Life's purpose is to make you christian.

Um, i hate to break this to you because you were on a roll but, Jesus is the Living Word, the bible made flesh as described by John the Baptist. if you do not follow the law (the bible), then you do not follow Jesus Christ. If you do not obey the bible, then you cannot hope on your best day to claim to love Jesus Christ or you make a liar of yourself. You must obey the laws of the bible because Jesus Christ is God in person, you may not have to pay the price for sin any longer but it is still his will for you to obey his law so that you do not degenerate into lawlessness.

Matthew 5:17 "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them"

Matthew 24:35 "Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words shall not pass away.”

John 14:15 "If you love Me, you will keep My commandments".

You will never know the Lord's commandments if you do not read the bible. Reading the bible is a must to know his will.

I dont post twice on the same thread, because i dont beleive in beating a dead horse...having said that, this is my second post on this thread

It's soooo obvious that many of you have no idea what you are talking about in regards to theology and the christian texts. Even though it is your individual interputations of the texts, to sit there and make the ignorant statements that I have been seeing is very disheartening...

To defend your arguement by saying, well science cant prove "God", well maybe you should look at just how much Science truly cant explain. Geometry and Classical Physics, that's about it....and even Classical Physics is full of lack of understandings on why and how.

I'm under the assumption that many of you still regards "God" was being singular, and a He at that.....
Well, what happened to the Trinity
What happened to El Elyon not being Elohim, before abraham and his son deemed him so
What happened with King Josiah, deutoronomy, the 2nd Isiah, the council of ephesus, chalcedon, how about the entire 16th century....
Where are the texts derived from, and what under lying premise is there, what are the mathematical application of the texts, how does it describe the evolution of social structures?

STOP WITH YOUR SUBJECTIVE IGNORANT STATEMENTS, and try to understand the initiative, motives, and the evolution of Judiasm, Christianity, and Islam

I rarely describe any group of people, for the recognition of the individual is of most importance
Having said that, YOU PEOPLE are in a rude awakening in the near future as to the purpose, justifications, and true understanding of the texts as all these "occult" groups that everyone is scared of are using these texts as their Playbook.

Prophecy is sooo incredibly easy to me, and i dont see how much of you dont share this same ability, for I am nothing special...but rather just a construct of the universe and being the fruits of the tree of life.

Stop sitting there, and demonizing eachother over lack of understandings. I suggest that many of you take a cold hard look in the mirror, do some deep thinking about who you are, and why you are here....

Your purpose is not to become a Christian, your purpose is not to even have ever heard the word Christ....

Your purpose is to evolve, both biologically and consciously.... This is the key to sustaining our species, in which will allow for all of us to experience freedom and happiness. Yes you are at liberty to make all these statements, but you are not at liberty to be a false witness...
What i'm saying is pretty much rendered useless, for everyone is being intentionaly(or just a product of time) being taught these lessons through being witness to the intentional use of archetypal roles in events, and providing a social structure in which will ultimately mold the next 1000 years, which YES starts very soon.

So, yall better buckle up... If you think the world sucks now, then wait a couple months.... and if you havent not done some self reflecting and gained a better understanding of the world that surrounds us, you will ultimately not be able to cope with the reality of situation, you will most likely contribute to actions of a extremist fashion in violence.... and it's very possible that your life will be at a loss.

to make it simple, learn to evolve.... you wonder why there are no Neanderthals around, BECAUSE THEY DIDNT EVOLVE - LEARN FROM HISTORY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Here's some helpful information in which might expand your comprehensions of the texts

They are almost ALL FIGURATIVE AND METAPHORIC, and they are dependent on context

Earth does not mean Earth
Quake does not mean Quake
Beast does not mean Beast
Water or Waters is NOT A DIRECT REFERENCE TO WATERS
even the word STONE does not mean STONE

many of the texts were written during a time in which there was a limited vocabulary and the texts had to be comprehendable by the mass', there for in todays terms they are not and where not ever to be taken in literal terms....

cmon people, do some research....then provide arguement, for the sake of arguements

In cognitive linguistics, the invariance principle is a simple attempt to explain similarities and differences between how an idea is understood in "ordinary" usage, and how it is understood when used as a conceptual metaphor.

Kövecses (2002: 102) provides the following examples based on the semantics of the English verb to give.
She gave him a book. (source language)
Based on the metaphor CAUSATION IS TRANSFER we get:
(a) She gave him a kiss. (b) She gave him a headache.
However, the metaphor does not work in exactly the same way in each case, as seen in:
(b') She gave him a headache, and he still has it. (a') *She gave him a kiss, and he still has it.
The invariance principle offers the hypothesis that metaphor only maps components of meaning from the source language that remain coherent in the target context. The components of meaning that remain coherent in the target context retain their "basic structure" in some sense, so this is a form of invariance.

George Lakoff and Mark Turner originated the idea under the name invariance hypothesis, later revising and renaming it as the invariance principle. Lakoff (1993: 215) gives the invariance principle as: "Metaphorical mappings preserve the cognitive topology (that is, the image-schema structure) of the source domain, in a way consistent with the inherent structure of the target domain".

reply to post by MESSAGEFROMTHESTARS


Hell, for all we know the "bible" could actually be a guide on how to pickle cucumbers.

Your never sure with translations.

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by etherical waterwave
We just should be left alone doing what each of us does and we will get it eventualy.

Topic of this thread was: Life's purpose is to become a christian. Think about it. Thx!

If Christians in the USA would just go about their business and leave everyone alone - - that would be great. But they keep insisting on being involved in politics and denying rights of others.

If Christians anywhere would just go about their business - - but part of Christianity is spreading the word. So that's not going to happen.

One's Life Purpose is defined by the individual - - - whether they believe in Christ or not.

If we had real Christians in Politics then we wouldn't be having these problems. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Christ against the tax collectors?

Originally posted by etherical waterwave
reply to post by ParaNormality

 

There is only one God who is allknowing.

Then which is it? Is it Jesus? Or is it the Father?

Jesus?

?


HOW COME HE DIDN'T KNOW WHEN THE HOUR IS THEN? Him being "Allknowing" and all ...

Originally posted by sHuRuLuNi

Originally posted by etherical waterwave
reply to post by ParaNormality

 

There is only one God who is allknowing.

Then which is it? Is it Jesus? Or is it the Father?

Jesus?

?


HOW COME HE DIDN'T KNOW WHEN THE HOUR IS THEN? Him being "Allknowing" and all ...

The father, son (Jesus) and the holy spirit are all one being.
And he DID know when the hour was, he just didn't say. Why, IDK.

reply to post by RealTruthSeeker

If we had real Christians in Politics then we wouldn't be having these problems. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Christ against the tax collectors?

the last real christian in power was hitler