Plan C: World War III

Originally posted by SecondAmendmentUser

Originally posted by TechniXcality

Not everything is right on the home front no doubt,

Really?! That is an understatement of Biblical proportions for sure!

however if some country thinks it can attack us or have a military advantage, our government and the people have the power to give an unequivocal red, white, and blue middle finger to those who oppose us. Granted I have not covered all avenues of approach but, America falling cannot happen unless God himself dictates so. Period
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I'd guess your god is Lucifer, maybe....the complete debauchery and degeneration of our nation into a modern day Sodom and Gomorrah, or maybe Babylon....I think it is much worse than that in the US today has morphed my nation into something that I can no longer recognize as the God fearing place it once was, not only that its tyrannical criminal leaders spit in the face of God. The USA has truly become a reprobate country very worthy of God's wrath.

I think this country has fallen already in its heart and mind, so God must dictate it's demise unless their is an eleventh hour awakening by the people to stop mocking Him.

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Im glad we agree, so the underlining judge is God, if no such folly falls upon America and the world, i guess He dosent exist. but if wrath is delt to us than you are right. are you waiting to hear that trumpet by any chance?

I have to say, if your conclusion is that we may soon experience the nuclear annialation of Iran and that is why the US is pulling its troops out of Iraq, then I am doubtful.

Even using high yield strategic nuclear weapons in this theater would not put US troops in Iraq at material risk as these troops would be positioned hundreds of miles upwind from Iranian targets.

And that being said isn't it much more probable that any nuclear weapons use would be lower yield tactical weapons, having no impact on US troops in Iraq, and in such a battlefield scenario, wouldn't having 50,000 US troops in theater prove invaluable.

And as far as Iranian nukes go, it seems like their program is no where near capable of delivering nukes against Israel, and they would be nuts to do so and most likely incapable of deploying nuclear weapons against US troops in Iraq.

Although I subscribe to much of what has been promoted here, something just isn't adding up.

Originally posted by TechniXcality

Im glad we agree, so the underlining judge is God, if no such folly falls upon America and the world, i guess He dosent exist. but if wrath is delt to us than you are right. are you waiting to hear that trumpent by any chance?

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It certainly isn't a matter of "if" that trumpet will sound but "when".

Unless there is a miracle of the awakening of souls here ....we are going to see Judgement Day.


Our God is a loving God, and a jealous and angry God as well.

The US is under the wing of Lucifer and it shows. I think we will all see the angry God come calling very soon.

I have to say considering that God created us in His image I would be damn angry with what I saw from the US, and I would want to eradicate its rebellious lucifer loving heart and mind. I would do so with a vengeance that was only Gods to take.

Originally posted by SecondAmendmentUser

Originally posted by TechniXcality

Im glad we agree, so the underlining judge is God, if no such folly falls upon America and the world, i guess He dosent exist. but if wrath is delt to us than you are right. are you waiting to hear that trumpent by any chance?

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It certainly isn't a matter of "if" that trumpet will sound but "when".

Unless there is a miracle of the awakening of souls here ....we are going to see Judgement Day.


Our God is a loving God, and a jealous and angry God as well.

The US is under the wing of Lucifer and it shows. I think we will all see the angry God come calling very soon.

I have to say considering that God created us in His image I would be damn angry with what I saw from the US, and I would want to eradicate its rebellious lucifer loving heart and mind. I would do so with a vengeance that was only Gods to take.

Good luck i lost my faith long ago, if it sounds you are a lucky bunch. i still feel shame in saying these things, indoctrination runs deep in its victims. I do say this, if communism logical conclusion is tyranny, and capitalisms logical conclusion is tyranny, than what is the solution, other than Gods richeouse kingdom, forgive my missplellings im drunk again.

Originally posted by TechniXcality
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Just curious TechniXcality...so you believe you are your own god? Correct?

Originally posted by SecondAmendmentUser

Originally posted by TechniXcality
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Just curious TechniXcality...so you believe you are your own god? Correct?

ha!, my own God. I belive that meaning is not objective, and that it is subjective if thats what your meaning? Let me elaborate, you belive God gives meaning to each life on this earth, i belive meaning is subjective and changes constantly. We as people define our meaning, nothing else, and to say that something out side of ourselfs dose is to deny free will, which is contradictory to the bible's interpretation

Originally posted by TechniXcality

ha!, my own God. I belive that meaning is not objective, and that it is subjective if thats what your meaning?

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Maybe I should say you believe you are your own master?

I'm not being judgemental, just curious.

Love your breakdown and theory here, but this really scares me. Would America go into WW3 just to generate a good economy (if the war was won) in the short time while adding on more debt? I sure hope not.. life is just too complicated :/

Originally posted by SecondAmendmentUser

Originally posted by TechniXcality

ha!, my own God. I belive that meaning is not objective, and that it is subjective if thats what your meaning?

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Maybe I should say you believe you are your own master?

I'm not being judgemental, just curious.

Read edit in above post. Look i think the curious searching of God comes from mans want of meaning, it's actually quiet simple. We look at a pattern and we apply meaning, thats how we observe the world how we know that i am me and you are you. However when we philosophically try to define our selves as purpousful beings because God says we are, we become caught in a contradiction. That our free will is defined by our choices not by and objective meaning(in this case God). So if indeed there is a god then we have no free will.

Originally posted by SecondAmendmentUser

Originally posted by TechniXcality

ha!, my own God. I belive that meaning is not objective, and that it is subjective if thats what your meaning?

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Maybe I should say you believe you are your own master?

I'm not being judgemental, just curious.

Talk to me on u2u, we are derailing this thread, id love to talk to you about this here, ask me whatver you want

Originally posted by BLKMJK
Nothing, and I mean NOTHING usually shakes me up on this site. But I must admit, your presentation gave me a disgusting sinking feeling in my stomach. You sir may be on to something.Well done. One more thought, the way you laid it out makes it appear unavoidable. Thank you for ruining my sleep tonight...

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Good point, and thanks for the hard work Red!
And Magic, c'mon... you know we'd all rather lose
a little sleep and be informed than be rudely awakened
later.
It's why we're here instead of reading the Hollywood Tonight page.
For my end of it-- the more the elites are covering for themselves,
ironically the more transparent it's becoming to everyone. But how
close to that "Samson Option" would we have to get before the info
tipping point made it impossible for them to hit the button without
getting snapshootered?
I hope things actually do degrade a bit more just for the sake of
more exposure of the real perps to a lot more people recently awakened.
My worst fear is their great sense of timing. Just when y'all thought it was unsafe

heres my relationship with God, obivoulsy not ment to be in the song, but subjectivly this is how i feel.

www.youtube.com...

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Also many countries in Europe especially west Europe have military exercises planned and going on before the end of this year.
For example my country The United Netherlands had an exercise with 15000 troops in clear day light in urban regions. They even practiced an attack on a public air port with helicopters.

However I think it's pointless. We sold all of our tanks and mobile brigades. We only have a little group of marines, some battle ships and around 10 jet fighters and bombers.

It's quite clear we will not stand a chance however the attention our governments are spending on these exercises is enough proof for me that they know more than they let out as the last time these exercises were done was in the height of the cold war.
Especially in times were there isn't money for anything.

reply to post by TheRedneck


Posting again just so it doesn't get lost;

How soon do you see this conflict playing out? I personally feel like we're on the verge of something but another part of me feels like they're going to drag on these issues for some time, possibly for decades (they're already doing such a good job with all the fear mongering and subliminal messages). It seems like the war is inevitable, which is a shame because it doesn't have to be that way. Unfortunately, the people in power can't seem to see it.

reply to post by concernedcitizen519


I don't think it's specifically the people leading our nations but the people behind them that together make decisions.
The local governments taking only their own nation in consideration. This is also why the Euro is failing.
We are allies but our governments talk with each other as if they are enemies. Simply because no one wants to share.
There is a lot of greed and this greed will bring us to the brink of destruction and annihilation.
We should truly unite with a common goal. However I think like Kennedy said that this will only be possible when we face an alien treat.

We could skip all that but that's the problem with greed people don't see through it easily.

reply to post by TheRedneck

The biggest thing to notice is that new bullet points in the psychological war are being pumped daily into the global public mind by Israel, Washington, and Saudi Arabia.

Here are some of the key bullet points:

#1: "Iran aimed to assassinate an American ally on American soil."
#2: "America and Israel must act or the regime will grow bolder."
#3: "The Iranian government is crazy. It does not want peace. It has been at war with America since 1979."
#4: "Israel has no choice but to defend itself and prevent a nuclear holocaust."
#5: "President Obama cannot chicken out and allow Iran to take control of Iraq, murder American allies, and kill American troops."

source: disquietreservations.blogspot.com...

the zionists and neocons are still exerting pressures and creating friction around Eurasia & middle-east...

Originally posted by CaDreamer
reply to post by nightbringr

 

antisemitism? really? from a Jew? (yes i am racially "Jewish" The Rothschilds named themselves..didnt know they where Jewish as i did no research into their religion...please tell me where in my post did i mention anything even remotely antisemitic...

also if i am wrong please present evidence that proves it unless of course your point here is to derail the thread into a argument over Antisemitism

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No. As i stated in my last post, i may have overreacted when i heard the name Rothchild being blamed for our woes. I have seen thread after thread derailed by the simple mention of their name, and it quickly becomes a "zionist" bashing thread.

I say that your thread is good, good sensible data about what is going on.

However, there are a few things I think you left out.

The one and only TRUE enemy that the US is working against, is Europe. Remember the saying, "keep your friends close, but your enemies closer". Europe is historically where all the inventions, and every breakthrough has been made. Since Greece and Rome, to Germany and England ... from mathematics, to industry.

If the United States and Israel wish to have an Empire of their own, they need to make sure that Europe will not EVER rise again.

Taking a look at the chess board, you have seen rightly that oil is a key element. Oil is what makes the industry run, and what makes the wheels turn. But, if you also look at the prises of oil, you will find that prises of oil in Europe exceeds any price, anywhere else on the planet. China has prices at 1/3rd of Europe. So does the US, or maybe even less than that.

But Europe is being trumped by one card ... the nazi card. We "supposedly" murdered millions of Jews, and this card is making it very difficult for Europe to mount any military action. So, the battlefield is the Economy ... and is taking parts in 3rd world nations.

I've mentioned this before, and I'll mention it again. Consider the Yougoslavia war, a long time ago, the US had a swede "Carl Bildt" do their bidding on doing negotions between the parties in the civil war. He did such a good job, that after wards he got an oil deal, with Lundin Oil Co. and was working there for years. Accordingly, this man who is now the foreign minister sweden, took part in "ethnical cleansing" of black africans in Sudan, to remove them off the oil fields. This job, as an oil CEO, was his payment for the treason against eastern Europe, during the Yougoslavia conflict.

During the Iraq war, Russians planted and investigated the accuracy of American missiles, and tested their own GPS disturbance apparatus, that saved their ass during a raid. The Russian military has took over an ionized project that allows them stealth, by ionizing the aircraft. Russians had their own submarines during the Iraq conflict, in the gulf, to monitor what was occurring.

We're not going to fight a war ...

The Chinese are not enemies of the US. And I seriously doubt that Iran is. It is a sleight of hand, move, to have people expect the war to begin there. While it will not. The uprising and unrest in the world, is mostly an anti-Europe rally.

China has it's currency anchored to the US dollar. It's doing this, because in reality, it is a close ally of the US. China is one of the biggest "capitalist" nations the world has ever known. When the chinese burry their dead, or when they visit their relatives ... they burn "money" on their graves, to symbolise giving their relatives money on the other side. They don't give packages with gifts on Christmas, or toys to children. They give "hong bau" which is a red envelope, with money in it. All their world is about, is money ... and nothing else. Which is why it's anchored to the US dollar, and why China and US are playing the "Good guy"/"Bad guy" game against the rest of the world.

Between them, they profit.

Unlike us Europeans, which have some sort of a mental problem with morals ... most other countries don't. The US does not have a problem with going abroad, and killing millions of people, and planting radioactive sickness, that kill infants, and make children born malformed. Nor does the US have much problems with torture, sodomizing others. The Geneve convention, which was formed between the warring parties of Europe, during WWI and WWII, because they needed to have rules, even in war. Rules, that denied the germans the ability to use chemical weapons in WWII, because they already used them in WWI. That put a total stop to any usage of nuclear weapons, despite fictional accusations that they were producing these. And even though they are accused of murdering millions of jews, the fact that peole aren't allowed to "talk" about this occurrence or even argue about it, or debate it ... most certainly casts a shadow over the deed. Because cencorship is always put up, for the purpose of hiding the truth ... and not to protect it. The truth does not need protecting, only fiction does.

This geneve convention, does not apply to the US/China or Israel ... it only applies to Europe.

So, all in all ... Europe is not going to war ... and neither are the chinese, because they are the major producer of all goods, in America ... and the world. All the technology you have, has been outsourced to India or China. Whatever you have, computer or nuclear weapons ... the probability of the parts in these are produced in China, is 99.9%.

The Germans lost WWIII, because they didn't have access to oil. It wasn't American cleverness, but Hitlers stupidity and treason against Germany, that allowed the allies to hold this trump card, and ensure that Germany lost the war. Amongst germans, Hitler was always referred to, as well as Göring, as the little jewish traitor. Those were their nicknames.

The searching for an alternative energy source, was not fruitful, sabotaged or bought out.

What is occurring is a war, between Euro and Dollar. But the Euro zone has no "balls" to support it. It has no weapons, it has no army ... and most of all, it has no brains. People like "Carl Bildt" are not brains, they're spineless cowards who consort with the enemy. The enemy being those who "control" the oil, because eventually that has and will, bring down Europe to it's knees.

Therefore the Euro zone is losing the war. Because it didn't follow suit, in trying to produce a subsidiary energy source for the oil. For decades there were voice, loud voices, to produce hydrogen energy. The germans had been trying to do this, ever since WWI. And even engines were produced, that could use these, but all these inventions are/were bought and "burried" by the US.

European leaders, are spineless ... they are trying to be "good guys". They won't act, or make choices, because if their choices are against US/Israel interrests. Then the US will respond with the nazi card, and European leaders are afraid of being burried by their population. And in return, the European population is so dormant and stupid, that it will rather believe an American propaganda about how "evil" they are, rather than stand up for their ancestors and believe in themselves.

Europe is decedent ... but it still has eastern European rulers, who are a little bit more shrewed and have a little bit of a spine in their back. But without France, which about 10 years ago, was a serious actor in the world chess board, those actors will have to draw their cards back.

There will be no war ... I'm sorry. Because in reality, we need one ... we, as us here in Europe, need strong leaders who are willing to go head on with the US/Israel/China.

But it's not going to happen ... because European leaders, although playing this chess game. Are playing this chess game, half trying and half defending ... and you can't win that way. They are playing safe ... and as such, will lose.

Originally posted by kimsie

Originally posted by TheRedneck
reply to post by kimsie

Not much time this morning, but I have to ask what you know about Venezuela in prophesy?

TheRedneck

Dear Red Neck, There is no prophecy. There is only logic.

And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.
-- Zechariah 12:3

Read more: Jerusalem: The burdensome stone www.wnd.com...

--Witness as well the prophecies about Israel's offspring going into Egypt for 400 years then being delivered.
--Witness the prophecies about the Babylonian exile to occur and to end--which happend precisely as prophesied.

Then there's the many prophecies about Jesus the Christ, The Messiah coming first as a suffering servant and later as the conquering King. The first many dozens of prophecies were fulfilled to the letter.

Here's a listing of 100 prophecies fulfilled by Jesus:

100prophecies.org...

Here's a compilation of a purported 9 wars of the END TIMES from Biblical prophecies:

www.lamblion.com...

And here's a future prophecy about Damascus that anyone can take to the bank.

The news headlines indicate it could be just around the corner:

Isaiah 17:1
[ Proclamation Against Syria and Israel ] The burden against Damascus. “ Behold, Damascus will cease from being a city, And it will be a ruinous heap.
Isaiah 17:1-3 (in Context) Isaiah 17 (Whole Chapter)








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A prophecy yet to be fulfilled that WILL BE fulfilled to the letter: