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Originally posted by seabag
reply to post by Domo1
Great video. Ya, I learned a long time ago you can tell what they're gonna do if you just follow the money. I knew Bush was corrupt with his ties to Wall Street, Halliburton, oil companies, etc. I knew Obama was going to follow his lead (plus more) because he had Wall Street plus big union backing. And I discovered earlier this week the big Wall Street money was switching to the Romney camp, so we know what we can expect from him if he gets the win. Getting the money out of politics is the only way we'll ever get real results from our representatives. It's a rigged system.
Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
reply to post by seabag
"Big union backing" - oh. Simply terrifying.
Well, hearten up; the unions are with OWS. From my own all the way to those right-wing nuts in the Teamsters. Obama can keep the bankers, or he can keep the unions. he's not going to be able to hold both very well.
He's going to keep the bankers because - your panic notwithstanding - there's no such thing as "big unions" anymore. Thanks, fellow voter!
Originally posted by NadaCambia
Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
reply to post by seabag
"Big union backing" - oh. Simply terrifying.
Well, hearten up; the unions are with OWS. From my own all the way to those right-wing nuts in the Teamsters. Obama can keep the bankers, or he can keep the unions. he's not going to be able to hold both very well.
He's going to keep the bankers because - your panic notwithstanding - there's no such thing as "big unions" anymore. Thanks, fellow voter!
People hate Unions because they're a Democratizing force and give voice and power to the normal citizen. The people that Unions benefit and are for have been trained to see them as evil though, quite clever on behalf of big government and industry to do that.
... Is that why they go to Church ... So as to check on there're investments maybe
Originally posted by ChloeAUTM
I hate to be the overthinker / paranoid one here but:
What if governments are purely pretending to support the movement and bankers are purely pretending to be angry to fool us into thinking they're moral people?
I have the niggling suspicion that politicians don't have balls like that.
Opinions?
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that IF the PETITION OF GRIEVANCES approved by the 870 Delegates of the NATIONAL GENERAL ASSEMBLY in consultation with the PEOPLE, is not acted upon within a reasonable time and to the satisfaction of the Delegates of the NATIONAL GENERAL ASSEMBLY, said Delegates shall organize a new NON-PARTISAN INDEPENDENT POLITICAL PARTY to run candidates for every available Congressional seat in the mid-term election of 2014 and again in 2016 until all vestiges of the existing corrupt corporatocracy have been removed by the power of the ballot box.
Originally posted by seabag
Yeah, I know unions are now behind OWS. That's another reason I won't support it. OWS will fail soon anyway.
Unions began as a noble concept with good intentions but, like our government, they have become corrupt. Workers unions bankrupt the organizations they work for (look at the UAW). The only people who think they're good are the members who benefit. Meanwhile customers get screwed with higher prices and a crappy product because union entitlements drive up costs and decrease quality and productivity. If unions disappear, and I hope they do, it will be because they were unsustainable to begin with. They collapse under their own weight.