elppredictions - this guys the real thing!

reply to post by kronix


You lost me at "$20"

reply to post by RP2SticksOfDynamite


no I'm not involved at all with his site, i just wanted to share what i found in a predictions forum, imagine that. this thread was not about me getting scammed or how i chose to spend my money. it was about trying to get it out there that this guy is only doing his world predictions to try and raise awareness about the issues and possibly prevent certain things from happening in the future. i wanted to express that i was very happy with what i got from him and wanted to put it out there for others to find, in case they were looking for a similar experience. so im sorry that everyone thinks this guy scammed me but i know different. if you want to prove him a hoax stop being a puss and maybe give him a try, instead of making fun of me for my choices and interests. like i already said i was more than happy with what he told me.

reply to post by Chamberf=6


if you had a gift like this your telling me you would do it for free, for anyone, anytime? if so i call bull#. he needs to eat just the same as the rest of us, so yeah obviously he charges money.

If he has your email, he can search it through facebook for a start.
Since the 'new' look facebook came in, alot of peoples walls that were set to 'private' are now public.
If you are on Facebook, & have posted statuses or replies regarding your childs vaccination, then this could be how he would hit that.
While I do believe there are genuine physics, I'm sorry ,but I don't believe this guy ,or anyone advertising on the internet is.

Originally posted by kronix
reply to post by Chamberf=6

 

i payed him after he gave me my reading. and only because he was spot on. it never once was about the money to him.

edit on 22-10-2011 by kronix because: spelling

erm, if it was never about the monies, why does he ask for the monies and not return them to you.


HOLY MOLEY PEOPLE!

reply to post by blueorder


I PAYED because I WANTED TO. he did not hound me or even ask for the payment once. i thought i made that clear.

reply to post by jewells


that would be fine if i used facebook in the last 4 months, which i havnt.

Originally posted by kronix
reply to post by blueorder

 

I PAYED because I WANTED TO. he did not hound me or even ask for the payment once. i thought i made that clear.

I never once suggested he hounded you


He clearly advertises this as a business, is my point, you are free to throw your money at whatever hair brained scheme you choose

It's funny how people who write about conspiracy theories and interact with other conspiracy theorists online think that after doing so, they can still face-palm somebody else who's doing the same thing. It's like the most extreme beta virgin male in a club thinking he can make fun of his beta friend, who's also a virgin, for not being very cool in his last interaction with some female he recently tried to talk to.

After reading this I decided to get a reading. It was thirty dollars because that's the deal he has going on now and it lasted for over an hour. He is not perfect or all knowing but I'll be damned if he didn't blow my mind. (not my load, posers)

I've never heard of a psychic scale before but I'll make one and say he's at least an 8.

reply to post by blueorder


If the guy has a service to provide, why should he not utilize that in his life? If he were a baker or an electrician, it would be fine, but psychic abilities should be free, eh? Sound logic? Sorry.

I have asked for a reading as well. His rates are quite reasonable compared to others I've seen online. He has a fair track record and he's still got decent rates. I mean, come on, there's some 20-odd yr old chick on the West Coast there asking $500 to read your Akashic records. His $20 or so is paltry in comparison.

I feel sure the rest of you scoffers drop as much for cable tv every month. Think what you throw into junk food and going to the movies.

This will be interesting at the very least.

reply to post by CosmicEgg


Please let us know how it goes. I also think its pretty silly for people to ridicule this guy if you haven't even tried him.
"hmmm, you say you tried it and you were very happy with it, buuuuuuuut.... No, I'm just still gonna make fun of you because making fun of people who believe in and pay money to psychics is just the sheepish thing to do, sooo, on the bandwagon I go!"

See what the other sheep are doing and follow their lead... Someone up there in front must know what's goin on so why think for myself?!

I believe this unequivocally. If a person charges for their predictive or prophetic gifts, they are by definition a false prophet. I don't care how accurate or precise, if you are that good, you should not charge people. Profiteering, especially under the guise of psychic or prophetic abilities is pure evil. True prophets are chosen and DO NOT use their gifts for personal financial gain at the expense of others. This imaginary construct of money and our arbitrary assignation of value to materials items is what keeps us enslaved. Soon, the genuine prophets will be vindicated, and these two bit swamis who profit off others will be silenced.

I don't believe in humans predicting another person's future.

He could have easily gathered certain information, your age would given out a possible child you may have, it doesn't have to be yours, a "young child". Of course flu shot season is coming.

Lot of psychics generalize things "you will spend increased volume of money"

Each person might take that as its said for them

- Buying a car, House
- Spending in a business
- Accident repairs
- Health spendings
- Trip, Vacation, Party costs

something bound to happen.

Originally posted by mirrormaker326
I believe this unequivocally. If a person charges for their predictive or prophetic gifts, they are by definition a false prophet. I don't care how accurate or precise, if you are that good, you should not charge people. Profiteering, especially under the guise of psychic or prophetic abilities is pure evil. True prophets are chosen and DO NOT use their gifts for personal financial gain at the expense of others. This imaginary construct of money and our arbitrary assignation of value to materials items is what keeps us enslaved. Soon, the genuine prophets will be vindicated, and these two bit swamis who profit off others will be silenced

Common, give it a break!
"by definition false prophets", like from the bible definition, the book that made the Church one of the richest institution in the world, all the while preaching how evil money is?
What's wrong with charging for the services they provide?
These are not "the chosen prophets", and need no recognition from a higher power; they're just gifted people ( or pretend to be). Either you want their services, or you don't.
As for the "true" prophets, for thousands of years now the world is still waiting to see one.

I would much rather have a true psychic's abilities/services at my disposal than to sit in judgment of their virtue for charging particularly nominal fees. Having said that, my reading just came in.

He told me things there was simply no way for him to know. There was absolutely no way to know unless he had hacked my email and bugged my home for the past 3 years. Unlikely, says me. So he has my trust. He has proven to me, even to the extent of using specific language that I have used recently. I don't watch tv or listen to radio (not even online) so I haven't adopted it there. I'm not one for picking up language that way anyway. That was a particularly compelling aspect for me.

However, we won't know whether what he has told me will actually be the case until next summer. How could he know what my situation is now? How could he know what I have already done to facilitate its motion in a particular direction? He has seen.

For anyone who thinks I might have given something away in my question to him, it was just this: "What do I need to know right now?" When I read tarot cards, that is the only question I ever ask when reading for myself. What is important will come to the surface. Nothing else is relevant anyway. I gave nothing away there. He had my birthday and my question. Nothing else. He told me a lot though and we'll just have to see about the rest.

Till summer, my friends.

reply to post by WhiteHat


I am in no way defending the avarice and power grabs of organized religions, and I am especially critical of all facets of Christianity. I believe they perpetuate the greed and oppression we are plagued with today. If you have a spiritual gift and you are charging for it, that is morally reprehensible. Most of the time, these "psychics" or "seers" cannot even get the signal clear because they are clouded by their self preservation instinct that evolves into the ultimate blinder, self-adoration or narcissism. If you are charging for these types of services, you limit your ability to develop your gifts further. Money is just the instantiation of fleeting earthly power, it inherently lacks any "real" value. The artificial systems that keep people down are all man-made. They, those who are the "Invisible Hand" have created systems that they claim are objective, but under closer examination they are institutions that perpetuate the enslavement of the common people.

I am not here to fight flesh and blood, but spiritual wickedness in high and low places. -- Bob Marley

Very interesting. His prediction of the injuries to eyes and throats of the protesters is like the webbot prediction of a "beheading" among the OWS people. Damn.... I'll shortcut it and see....

reply to post by blueorder


Why is it that everyone expects Energy Workers to give away their services? Do artists? Musicians? Therapists? Writers? Athletes? Doctors? Lawyers? Even clergy get compensated in most belief systems...

Energy work, divination et al, does not come easy and exacts a pretty big toll on the diviner sometimes. It's a double edged sword. Energetic interaction, especially within the occult realm, demands a sacrifice for efficient "launching". Its getting hard to pay in goats and chickens these days, those many practitioners are willing to trade or barter services. Modern society deals in "green energy" or monetary transfer as a valid energetic exchange between goods and services.

Asking for payment for energetic services is absolutely acceptable.

Originally posted by mirrormaker326
reply to post by WhiteHat

 

I am in no way defending the avarice and power grabs of organized religions, and I am especially critical of all facets of Christianity. I believe they perpetuate the greed and oppression we are plagued with today. If you have a spiritual gift and you are charging for it, that is morally reprehensible. Most of the time, these "psychics" or "seers" cannot even get the signal clear because they are clouded by their self preservation instinct that evolves into the ultimate blinder, self-adoration or narcissism. If you are charging for these types of services, you limit your ability to develop your gifts further. Money is just the instantiation of fleeting earthly power, it inherently lacks any "real" value. The artificial systems that keep people down are all man-made. They, those who are the "Invisible Hand" have created systems that they claim are objective, but under closer examination they are institutions that perpetuate the enslavement of the common people.

I am not here to fight flesh and blood, but spiritual wickedness in high and low places. -- Bob Marley

PS Bob Marley GOT PAYED...I'm just sayin....

reply to post by PapaKrok


I find that people are vastly more invested in the outcomes of their divination when they are compensated. It also keeps those unwilling to do the work from calling every time they need to make a decision regarding which laundry detergent to buy or asking advice on their wardrobe...yea, it happens.

I have therapist associates that charge over a hundred bucks a visit and have, admittedly, less success than I am seeing with many of my clients. Many of my clients are highly paid professionals and most are pretty educated. The service means something to them and they are willing to pay for it. I would not ask a mechanic to fix my car for free, why should someone ask me to read tarot or create a voodoo ceremony for free?

Do you pay your tax prep guy? Your plumber? Your TV repairman? Your stockbroker?
What, exactly, is the difference and what, exactly, obligates the energy worker to give away, free, their talents and time?

This stuff isn't easy. Things can go very, very wrong. Sometime they do and it can be a tough road back to normal. This is a chance every intuitive takes when they touch the infinite. Insanity is just a smidgeon to the left at all times... sometimes a hell of a lot closer. Try dislodging a nasty rider sometime, forgetting to close a circle and waking up paralyzed :0 Occupational hazard I suppose…

The reality, like it or not, is that this fills a very much needed niche in the lives of many people and they are appreciative of its availability. In modern token economies, this is often expressed through the accepted medium of exchange. Sometimes bartering is preferred. But free? I don’t think that is a realistic expectation.