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Oh jeeeze. Im a bit overwhelmed. I have decided after reading through the posts here and some of the links provided(awesome) that I would like a manual model, and probably the slim, analog shape, atleast to start with.
I have no idea what brand though. I have been looking at a few vendors, prices are all relatively the same for starter kits. I think one of the 510s would be right for me. But what brand? I am a bit confused here still as well. Is it a Joye 510? Or is that one of the brands? I have seen Yeti Joye 510s, and then other Joye 510s.

Does anyone recommend any certain brand of 510 that they like? And this vanilla-cinnamon flavor mentioned, any links to vendors that sell that. Sounds great.
Thank you.

Originally posted by smashdem
Oh jeeeze. Im a bit overwhelmed. I have decided after reading through the posts here and some of the links provided(awesome) that I would like a manual model, and probably the slim, analog shape, atleast to start with.
I have no idea what brand though. I have been looking at a few vendors, prices are all relatively the same for starter kits. I think one of the 510s would be right for me. But what brand? I am a bit confused here still as well. Is it a Joye 510? Or is that one of the brands? I have seen Yeti Joye 510s, and then other Joye 510s.

Does anyone recommend any certain brand of 510 that they like? And this vanilla-cinnamon flavor mentioned, any links to vendors that sell that. Sounds great.
Thank you.

edit on 2-11-2011 by smashdem because: grammar

I'll PM you that i replied to this.. sorry it took so long to get an answer for you, I only just saw this.

Joye is a popular brand and was one of the first e-cigs to come out. Because of that, people commonly say " it's a Joye style e-cig" Some people will have their own brands and still call it a Joye because it's similar in style to the Joye. Joye has become a general catch term for that style of e-cig as well as a brand in itself. Joye makes the popular Ego kit. I use the Riva batteries (kit) because it was 35 dollars for the kit at Liberty Flights. It's is a 510 type thread, as is the Joye a 510 type thread. The Riva is a Joye Ego clone you see. It comes with two Joye brand 510 atomizers. The 510 thread type has pretty much become the standard for the most popular e-cigs. Spend some time looking around the e-cig forum and ask questions, read the e-liquid sub forums and look at the suppliers page. You'll find tons of info.

No worries man, the reply was pretty quick I think. Thanks for the clarification!

A couple of things I would say to people looking to get into vaping:

Number one, don't get ripped off. If you are buying a standard "mini" e-cig, the ones that look pretty much like regular cigarettes, NEVER EVER pay more than $50 for EVERYTHING, that means for well under $50 you can get two batteries, a charger, a number of cartomizers, or two atomizers and a number of cartridges. There are tons of horribly overpriced kits out there, they are a straight up rip-off and should be avoided. The 510 is pretty much the standard for entry level e-cigs, and a complete kit for the highest quality brand can be had for 30 bucks.

Number two, which kind of goes along the lines of not getting ripped off, is don't bother buying the pre-filled carts and cartos. They are another waste of money. Buy bottles of e-juice and re-fill them.

The third thing I would suggest, is to take it easy. Don't expect to pick up an e-cig and then never touch another cigarette. While e-cigs are pretty close to the experience of a real cigarette, they aren't identical, and most people take some time and self control to get to the point where they quit smoking and only vape. Start off with cutting down to 3-4 cigarettes a day in addition to vaping whenever you feel like it. Cigarettes contain MAOIs which are antidepressants, e-juice does not. You will not get the boost of emotion and pleasure you get with a normal cigarette, but you will get the nicotine, which makes things easier.

Fourth, go to www.e-cigarette-forum.com... and read for however many hours you have a day, every day. There are so many different types, brands, and styles of e-cigs that you really need to do a lot of research to find what is best for YOU. ECF is the best forum on the web for this, by a long shot. Most people have a "sweet spot" where they find a perfect combo of battery, atty/carto, and juice that works the best for them. You will have to shell out some cash, and you will have to experiment to find yours.

Personally I'd suggest using cartomizers over atomizers and carts. Attys burn out just like cartos, but attys are more expensive and don't work as well, in my opinion. You have the option of dripping when you use attys, which is using a drip tip (just a hollow tube basically) in place of the cartridge, and then using a bottle of juice, you just drip a couple drops straight onto the atty. While it works great, I find it to be a hassle, and I stick with nothing but cartomizers these days. Back in the day cartomizers had issues with a burnt taste, none of the quality cartos out now have this problem.

As far as the e-cig vs. real cig math, don't even bother. Just know that the continued purchase of juice is far cheaper than the continued purchase of cigarettes. The difference in nicotine strength, difference is how each person takes a hit, voltage difference, atty/carto difference, all of these variables make it impossible to say "xx amount of juice equals xx amount of cigarettes" Just vape until you feel like you don't need to vape anymore, then stop. Don't worry about trying to figure out what equals your regular cigarette.

In my opinion, the "minis" (ones that look like regular cigs) are a waste of time and money. Their battery life is terrible, they don't hold much juice, and just don't perform as well as the larger units. The batteries don't last very long either, before they need to be replaced.

The eGo, or one of its many clones, is the best budget entry into the vaping world. For $50 you can get two 900mAh batteries (comapred to the 150-300 mAh batteries the minis have) 4-5 cartos, charger, and a nice case. The performance on these units is excellent, and they are 510s so most of the cartos and attys on the market will work with them. You can get the mega dual coil cartos that look great on the eGo batts, and they hold a TON of juice, and produce ridiculous amounts of vapor and throat hit.

Then you can step up to the mods, which use user replaceable batteries, usually have a higher, or variable voltage. You can get them with pretty much any threads, which means you can use pretty much any attys or cartos out there. These are usually a bit more expensive, but most will last you a lifetime.

I know there are several people here with a lot of knowledge of vaping, and I know quite a bit myself, so if anyone has specific questions feel free to ask here and I'm sure someone will answer!

Hmm. I bought a No. 7 kit and e liquid bottle of vanilla for around $100 dollars here at the smoke shop my boyfriend works at. Why was mine so radically expensive compared the ones mentioned in the original post? I'm a smoker with anxiety attacks, and since I've been keeping one of these charged and ready in my purse, no more unmanageable panic attacks. That's enough to keep me using it.

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Your BF didn't get you a five-finger discount? He made you pay? Geez.

Seriously, don't go to smoke shops, order online if you can. Travel centers off of major highways also stock them, but they are the cheap ones, but work ok. For your apparent needs, that's want you want.

reply to post by James1982

Another awesome post. Thank you.
I will definitely do some more research before buying, but, a general idea of what to(or not) pay is a very good piece of knowledge.

reply to post by Druid42


Ha. It's a counter sale store, and he tried to get me discount but on items containing nicotine, such as e cigs or regular cigarettes, it's a no no with the higher ups and we need him to keep that job.

Hey, well I just took delivery of an e cigar. (more vapour apparently, but the forums disagree. Shoulda read more first I guess. I got 6 dual atomiser carts and a ton of juice.
I have to say, that after a week, its a great alternative to smoking.
I only had one battery unit at first so that was a hassle, but I have 2 now and its much better.
Also, these re fillable carts are way better than the pre filled. (Even if I did order the wrong length and had to cut them down with the dremel so they'd fit).
I've now pressed my old cigar case into service and it holds both batteries, 5 carts and a charger. Job done.

I have been smoke free for 3 weeks!! I even bought the e-cig and two cartons of cigs right before I quite EVERYTHING, even the e-cig. I can actually breath now!! The thing that helped me the most is cutting a straw to the same size of a cig and basically when I had the desire for a smoke use the straw like a cig and inhale like you normally would. After a few "hits" of air, my desire went away. Now, I still have a faint desire for a smoke, but really cannot stand the smell - sort of a strange catch 22... Just go cold turkey and believe in yourself that you will kick this addictions ass!!

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Nice one, I'm not really ready to give up altogether. That's why I opted for e cigs.
Even have the Mrs on them now, so its looking good.

I just ordered the following. Hope it's quality...think it is.


My Orders
2 of : Vapage VMOD 2.0 Replace. 4.5ml Bottle (2-pack)
$5.98 Processing

Order date: 01/15/2013

Items Ordered: Price: Status:
1 of : Vapage AMG Hybrid Atomizer Bottom Feeder 2.0ohm
$17.99 Processing
1 of : Vapage E-Liquid Blue Frost Menthol 18mg, 15ml
$12.99 Processing
1 of : Vapage E-Liquid Capuccino 18mg 15ml
$12.99 Processing
1 of : Vapage E-Liquid Vanilla Bean 18mg 15ml
$12.99 Processing
2 of : Vapage VMOD Silo Cartomizers 1.8ohm
$11.98 Processing

Items Ordered: Price: Status:
1 of : Vapage E-Liquid Red 18mg, 15ml
$12.99 Processing
1 of : Vapage VMOD Premium Kit - Silver
$99.99 Processing



I'm all in so to speak....I'll let you know how it goes.....


Ordered everything from www.vapage.com...

Obviously I don't recommend people start using nicotine but this change has been very good to me. I haven't had an analog cig since I started vaping. No worries of cancer or the other 10000 chemicals in traditional smoking.

I got my V-Mod and started making my own e-Juice after much research. Now instead of spending $7 on a pack of cigs I spend pennies a day because I am able with the right equipment to make my own using Nic base, PG, VG and flavorings.

This can be dangerous (nic base) but using syringes for very accurate ml/cc measurements for all the ingredients with the help of a software program called "eJuice Me Up" and taking proper precautions I am able to make very satisfying vape.

It takes a lot of reading and guidance... YouTube vids net info and guidance from www.e-cigarette-forum.com... I have broken free of the dangers of analogs....not to mention the health issues and money.

Originally posted by Druid42
I'd really also like to see the websites you guys get your supplies from. Can you post links? This is chit-chat, and noone is advertising here, just giving preferences.

Awaiting your replies....

I purchased most of my DIY stuff from:

www.myfreedomsmokes.com...

Another popular and trusted site is:

wizardlabs.us.../home

Just noticed this old thread pop back up.
What a year it's been.
I got fed up with my diy carts not producing much vapour and bought ego tanks for me and the wife. After a month they were so much hassle I started smoking again.
Did that for a month then found refillable carts for the cigar and some ce2s for the egos.
They're cheap, make loads of vapour and I'm back off the weed again.
Ego batteries are good. The atomisers and tanks are a mess.

I'm glad to see this topic here, even though I'm a little late to it, lol. As for my experience with e-cigs, I've done a ton of research and decided to go with Green Smokes. I really like not having to fill up with juice from God knows where and my monthly order gets shipped on time, every time. Not only that but they look and feel like a real smoke. It's nice to not smell like an ashtray anymore, that's for sure. And I feel much better now that I have all the additional chemicals from cigarettes cleared out of my body!

But really, it was the cost savings that got me interested and kept me buying. Hubby and I went from spending $10 a pack down to $2. Pretty hard to argue the economics of that if you don't really want to quit and just want an alternative that doesn't have the stench and the chemicals. We each smoked about 1 pack a day, so that's over $400 a month in savings. And in this economy, that's huge without having to give up something you actually like to do.

Little known use for e-cigs....props. For any kind of stage smoking role, where the actor or actress doesn't smoke, these look the part, without the harm.

I can't stand anything that doesnt have a filter, so the angel smoke that we got, isn't my cup of tea, it makes my chest very water filled.

The kind from the drug store without the nicotine but with filters was nice though.

So I'm ordering another kit shortly, the one I had tried to order, but the man talked me into the angel, the one with 2 of them that has filters instead, so one can recharge and the filters atomizers, but you can still add the liquid, because it does work.

He told me the filters got bitter after a while, well sorry so what.

Just taken delivery of an Innokin MVP2. Variable volt/watt. It's awesome. Tons of vape. battery lasts ages, built in pass through for when it's flat and it's an emergency supply for my phone too.
Can't believe it's only 40 quid. www.innokin.com...

i love vaping. im cloud chasing. it is cool. my kit is innokin endura T18. if you like, view: www.innokin.com