Statement by the NATO Secretary General on Libya

Statement by the NATO Secretary General on Libya

This is the statement by the NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen, speaking about Libya, and how NATO have decided to wind down airstrikes now untill October the 31st.

He then goes on to say, they saved countless life's ?
And then says Libya can now go on to have human rights and rule of law ?
He goes on to say this is a special moment in history for the NATO alliance and that freedom is the strongest force in the world, he was almost gloating over it, with his Nazi accent.

I can't stand that guy, he is a war criminal.

reply to post by TheMaverick

He goes on to say this is a special moment in history for the NATO alliance and that freedom is the strongest force in the world, he was almost gloating over it, with his Nazi accent.

That's a GERMAN accent. So I guess Germans are all Nazis then?

reply to post by ALF88

I can't stand that guy, he is a war criminal.

Evidence? Oh you have none? Must be the accent doing it for you too then right?


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I don't agree with the NATO campaign that much either. I think it's a waste of time. But to call people Nazis and war criminals when neither of these things fit the description is simply dishonest at BEST.

Originally posted by projectvxn

Evidence? Oh you have none? Must be the accent doing it for you too then right?

I am German, don't make yourself look stupid, and yes Libya made him a war criminal. This campaign was illegal and against international law.

reply to post by ALF88


You're the one throwing around accusations without evidence.

You call HIM a war criminal. PROVE IT.

You make the claim, YOU prove it.

If not then you're just another reactionary that doesn't know what he's talking about.

Originally posted by projectvxn
You're the one throwing around accusations without evidence.

You call HIM a war criminal. PROVE IT.

You make the claim, YOU prove it.

If not then you're just another reactionary that doesn't know what he's talking about.

The war on Libya is a crime. It is proven! Are you working for NATO?

reply to post by ALF88


Proven by who?

Or are you just making more crap up?

Yea, I disagree with your asinine assertions and that must mean I work for NATO.

Take your own advice and don't make yourself look stupid.

Originally posted by projectvxn

Proven by who?

Or are you just making more crap up?

NATO fighting with Al Qaeda toppling a government destroying the most developed country in Africa by violating the UN resolution.

Boots are on the ground, the no fly zone was established after a few weeks. The rest was taking side in the conflict and killing over 60.000 innocent civilians.

And now please stop your spam posts.

He is a war criminal!

reply to post by ALF88

NATO fighting with Al Qaeda toppling a government destroying the most developed country in Africa by violating the UN resolution.

What UN Resolution was violated? (And we agree that there are AQ elements in Libya and that has been very troubling for me).

Boots are on the ground, the no fly zone was established after a few weeks. The rest was taking side in the conflict and killing over 60.000 innocent civilians.

Yep they have SF on the ground in Libya. Do you know what they do? They paint targets for the enforcement of the No-Fly zone. These kinds of operations aren't as easy as you think.

Secondly do you have a source on the amount of civilians killed? Also, are you aware that in a war zone it is virtually impossible to COMPLETELY avoid civilian deaths? Or do you think war is like a video game where there is no one but you and the bad guys around?

NATO warned the rebels that deliberate targeting of civilians would be met with hostility from NATO.
NATO Warns Rebels Against Attacking Civilians

And now please stop your spam posts.

I don't post spam. Just because someone disgarees with you doesn't mean it is spam.

He is a war criminal!

Again, PROVE IT. You have to prove that NATO was deliberately targeting civilians. If that isn't the case, then he is not a war criminal.

reply to post by projectvxn


Isn't it a war crime to target world leaders for execution?. NATO put a big target on Gaddafi since the start of this conflict. Their aircraft targeted him while he was fleeing and gave cover to the rebels. When he tried to surrender he was executed by the rebels they were directing. This is a war crime. They have been targeting civilians and supplies since the start of this conflict. This is a war crime. Obama can join our list of current war criminals. He is a much bigger one than Gaddafi. I really don't care that Obama says now that he will pull out of Iraq. Our media is scum too for not pointing out the obvious hypocrisy. We need to have our own war crime tribunals in this country to get rid of all the dirtbags running this mess.

reply to post by BillfromCovina


Evidence please?

I want to see evidence that we deliberately target civilians in Libya.

I don't want your reactionary "Everything done militarily is a war crime" BS.

I want solid evidence of the claims made.

reply to post by projectvxn

NATO knows it is a war crime and that is why they are changing their story. They are now saying that they didn't know that Gaddafi was in the convoy that was targeted. So in essence, from their own mouths they are saying that they were targeting civilian trucks on the road for no apparent reason. WAR CRIMES

reply to post by BillfromCovina


Cite your sources please.

Also it was the Rebels that killed Gaddafi.
Lastly I don't believe it is a war crime to target heads of state
especially when they command the military.

Legitimate targets have always been command and control.

Originally posted by projectvxn

Evidence please?

I want to see evidence that we deliberately target civilians in Libya.

I don't want your reactionary "Everything done militarily is a war crime" BS.

I want solid evidence of the claims made.

edit on 21-10-2011 by projectvxn because: (no reason given)

We gave you common sense facts on the war in Libya. You repeat the same BS time and time again. That is called SPAM!

reply to post by ALF88


Cite your sources please.

Asking you to source your claims isn't spam.

If you really believe that to be the case then hit the alert button on the drop down menu below my avatar pic where it says "member" in blue.

Have a nice day.

Originally posted by projectvxn
Cite your sources please.

Asking you to source your claims isn't spam.

If you really believe that to be the case then hit the alert button on the drop down menu below my avatar pic where it says "member" in blue.

Have a nice day.

On what source do you base your statement that he isn't a war criminal?

Have a nice day as well.

reply to post by ALF88


That's not how it works buddy.

Again, YOU made the claim YOU prove it.

You don't prove negative arguments you prove positive ones.
en.wikipedia.org...

reply to post by projectvxn

Here is one cleaned up statement from NATO.

FOX News


From this statement we learn that there were 75 vehicles fleeing from NATO attatcks. With only 11 that they claim were military.

Here is a British source.
Telegraph

reply to post by BillfromCovina


Neither of these articles support your assertion that they were targeting civilians.

As a matter of fact Gaddafi, according to the first article, was targeted after civilians were under threat by his security forces.

I recommend everyone reads those two sources thoroughly as they do NOT support claims of war crimes at all nor do they support claims of civilians being targeted by NATO.

nice try.

Originally posted by ALF88

Originally posted by projectvxn

Evidence please?

I want to see evidence that we deliberately target civilians in Libya.

I don't want your reactionary "Everything done militarily is a war crime" BS.

I want solid evidence of the claims made.

edit on 21-10-2011 by projectvxn because: (no reason given)

We gave you common sense facts on the war in Libya. You repeat the same BS time and time again. That is called SPAM!

Actually hes just asking for proof. You and another poster claimed them as fact. Hearsay isn't proof unfortunately.