NAU : 1st Mexican truck to enter US interior within days

A big part of the north american union is about to go forward after years of delay.

1st Mexican truck to enter US interior within days

The first Mexican carrier is set to roll into the U.S. interior within days, but American trucking union leaders and two California congressmen haven't given up on stopping the cross-border trucking program that had been stalled for years by safety concerns and political wrangling.

U.S. Reps. Duncan Hunter and Bob Filner said they'll take a bipartisan stand at the border Wednesday in San Diego to voice concerns about the bilateral pilot project that will allow approved Mexican trucks to come deep into the United States. Hunter is a San Diego-area Republican, while Filner is a Democrat whose district includes California's border with Mexico.

They will join Teamsters union President James Hoffa and Todd Spencer, the owner-operator of the Independent Drivers Association, in a last-ditch effort to block Mexican trucks from being granted full access to U.S. highways.

Allowing Mexican trucking companies to deliver the goods rather than transfer them onto U.S. haulers at the border will put American jobs and highway safety at risk, the union leaders say.

Not only this is big for the north american union plan... it's going to cost jobs.

More jobs taken away from citizens! Star and flag for bringing this to our attention. Are these trucks going to be inspected?

Now , What does RP plan to do about this???

i nearly forgot about this super hwy until now.....

reply to post by ahmonrarh


wow we sure are going to see waaaaaaay more mexican products on our soil not to mention the possibility
of eating contaminated food products and more drug smuggling which reminds me do you think the drug lords
in colombia have anything to do with this lobbying i mean with all the talk about blameshifting to the ''drug cartels''
we need to remember where the drugs are coming from COLOMBIA NOT MEXICO if you think marijuana is a drug
than i laugh at you i never heard of millionaire yachters smoking weed all day

Before we get all upset about the jobs being lost. I would say it may create jobs as well. The road runs both ways.

I really believe the big question here is, besides the truckers, who is benefiting from this? Is it just the truckers, or is it going to help the population as a whole?

If it meant cheaper products coming from North America which includes Mexico it would be a good thing. It would create jobs in Mexico by making Mexico's products more available and boost job growth there which in turn would help keep migrant workers coming over the border looking for work here.Its a good situation all around.

Also if it put any sort of dent on our reliance of China, its definitely a step in the right direction. I remember a long time ago when I would see the words Made in Mexico or Made in Canada on good products. Maybe by taking action like this we may see the rare words Made in America once again.

Seems like everything is made in China which in my opinion is where all the jobs have gone.

You guys do understand they have been enering the US ever since NAFTA was formalized. Mexican trucks, under NAFTA were suppose to be able to travel to any point. Critics highlighted the lack of safety / updated inspections on Mexican rigs, which prompted a restriction of Mexican trucks to only within 100 miles of the border. They would be reuired to drop their loads and US or Canadian trucks would take them to their destinations.

100 miles or 3000 miles into the US it doesnt really matter. They are going to be under the same scrutiny that Us and Canadian trucks will be under. Since they are commercial vehicles they can be stopped and check with no PC.

As far as drug smugeling goes I see a major increa in busts actually. Now that they can use mexican drivers I see a shift back in their direction instead of trying to bribe drivers of other nationalities.

Its simple -
Traffic stop...contact with driver... where are you coming from where is your destination and what is your cargo;
I need your manifest, log book, drivers license and your medical card.

Im sorry you dont have all of that. We will need to have a valid driver continue with this load.

Originally posted by theviruskennewick
reply to post by ahmonrarh

 

wow we sure are going to see waaaaaaay more mexican products on our soil not to mention the possibility
of eating contaminated food products and more drug smuggling which reminds me do you think the drug lords
in colombia have anything to do with this lobbying i mean with all the talk about blameshifting to the ''drug cartels''
we need to remember where the drugs are coming from COLOMBIA NOT MEXICO if you think marijuana is a drug
than i laugh at you i never heard of millionaire yachters smoking weed all day

I have no idea where you were going with this line of questioning......but i see "you" meaning "me" ( i suppose) is used alot here after replying to my post, so i'll try to answer.

let's see....
1) Do i think drug lords have anything to do with lobbying (for, i'm guessing the formulation or implementation of the superhwy) ? I can't rightly say, but to dance on that thought, I don't see why they wouldnt...because as we all know, when it comes to dealing with our own established (sea) Port Authorities, there inevitably, is alot of illegal items that make it into our country, from but not limited to: stolen archaeological artifacts from the Mid-East, Ivory etc. African, and animals from all parts of the globe. i'm sure some of the aforementioned things came in 1 of 2 ways: by air or by sea. Now that proves that with the existing system we've got setup, it's no where near formidable for illegal goods. Factoring in the NAFTA superhwy, that adds a 3rd, Mass import avenue in addition to the previous 2, that are already beleaguered and what we have, is another system poorly secured or enforceable.
meaning, with more ways to transport anything, there is possibility that the superhwy would be used, our existing hwys are already...

there's also the NAU possibility of border erasing that has been talked about in other threads and the push towards an possible AMERO (like the euro) situation here, by establishing a physical pipeline from Mexico, to Canada.

Now, the millionaire yacht weed smoking thingy you mentioned, has no bearing on me, as i'm not millionaire, nor do i smoke the "Schweet Cheebah!!" in the words of Sampson(Half baked reference)..but i have NO PROBLEM with weed either...so you lost me there.

reply to post by WhatKnot

Before we get all upset about the jobs being lost. I would say it may create jobs as well. The road runs both ways.

I really haven't seen any jobs created by NAFTA for U.S. citizens. I have seen half of a company I worked at go to Mexico in 97'. How many jobs have we lost to China,India? Our manufacturing base is pretty much destroyed.

Please read this post on page two of this thread, "United States of North America (US, Canada, and Mexico to integrate into one country?)"

It's full of a ton of links/quotes that I really don't want to re-do to post here, but it's all really helpful information and it shows that we've been into the NAU for a while now...

Originally posted by 1825114
A lot of this stuff is about the SPP, or Security and Prosperity Partnership, which includes mexico. That's the scary part of the NAU, the integration of the militaries/borders, happening right now. They just haven't officially named it that yet, and we still have the whole economy-side of the equation to get beaten into.

They've been "openly" announcing the roll out of a contiguous military force to deal with things like civil unrest...

"In Canada, the agreement paving the way for the militaries of the U.S. and Canada to cross each other's borders to fight domestic emergencies was not announced either by the Harper government or the Canadian military, prompting sharp protest.

Read more: N. American Army created without OK by Congress www.wnd.com... "

Canada, U.S. agree to use each other’s troops in civil emergencies

February 22, 2008

Canada and the U.S. have signed an agreement that paves the way for the militaries from either nation to send troops across each other’s borders during an emergency...

...Neither the Canadian government nor the Canadian Forces announced the new agreement, which was signed Feb. 14 in Texas.

The U.S. military’s Northern Command, however, publicized the agreement with a statement outlining how its top officer, Gen. Gene Renuart, and Canadian Lt.-Gen. Marc Dumais, head of Canada Command, signed the plan, which allows the military from one nation to support the armed forces of the other nation during a civil emergency...

www.northcom.mil...

U.S. Northern Command, Canada Command establish new bilateral Civil Assistance Plan

February 14, 2008

SAN ANTONIO, Texas — U.S. Air Force Gen. Gene Renuart, commander of North American Aerospace Defense Command and U.S. Northern Command, and Canadian Air Force Lt.-Gen. Marc Dumais, commander of Canada Command, have signed a Civil Assistance Plan that allows the military from one nation to support the armed forces of the other nation during a civil emergency.

Obviously they're still at it... Deepening Canada-U.S. Security and Military Ties, January 29, 2011

All these stories we've heard lately about mexican troops and helicopters crossing into america with impunity are starting to make more sense... they're allowed to do it...

We've already got drones on the borders. They say they're looking for drug traffickers and people with backpacks and brag about being able to see people's faces from miles away, and how lit cigarettes make a much easier target.

We've got drones over mexico, too, now.
U.S. Drones Fight Mexican Drug Trade

March 15 2011

WASHINGTON — Stepping up its involvement in Mexico’s drug war, the Obama administration has begun sending drones deep into Mexican territory to gather intelligence that helps locate major traffickers and follow their networks, according to American and Mexican officials.

The Pentagon began flying high-altitude, unarmed drones over Mexican skies last month, American military officials said, in hopes of collecting information to turn over to Mexican law enforcement agencies. Other administration officials said a Homeland Security drone helped Mexican authorities find several suspects linked to the Feb. 15 killing of Jaime Zapata, a United States Immigration and Customs Enforcement Immigration agent.

President Obama and his Mexican counterpart, Felipe Calderón, formally agreed to continue the surveillance flights during a White House meeting on March 3. The American assistance has been kept secret because of legal restrictions in Mexico and the heated political sensitivities there about sovereignty, the officials said.

nhppa.org...

On June 9, 2010, Bill C-36 was introduced for first reading in the House of Commons. A copy of the Bill can be found here.

Bill C-36 is almost identical to Bill C-52 which had been introduced into the 39th Parliament on April 8, 2008, and to Bill C-6 which had been introduced into the 40th Parliament on January 29, 2009.

Summary of Points Discussed In This Paper

* The rule of law is the fundamental underpinning of a free society. Sacrificing the rule of law always leads to tyranny and loss of freedom.
* The Bill represents an unprecedented change in the powers of the state vis-à-vis the citizen. The rule of law and private property rights are all but extinguished in the area of consumer products.
* Although not applicable to natural health products, the Bill still poses a threat. The Bill gives Health Canada inspectors the very powers that concerned citizens in Bill C-51.
* Bill C-36 is being promoted as necessary to protect our families. However, under the existing law the State can already:
o ban or restrict any consumer product under threat of million dollar fines and two year jail sentences under the Hazardous Products Act;
o make immediate orders banning or restricting any consumer product if there is a significant risk to health or safety. In addition to fines and imprisonment for non-compliance, the State can apply to the Court for an injunction which brings police enforcement of the order;
o obtain a search warrant and seize non-compliant products, and
o prosecute for criminal negligence or homicide under the Criminal Code. In some cases this can result in penalties of life imprisonment.
* The real change brought about by Bill C-36 is not that it protects consumers, as the cur-rent law already grants the State significant powers to protect safety. Rather the real change is the abolition of procedural safeguards citizens currently enjoy.
* Bill C-36 abolishes the law of trespass thus allowing the State access onto private property without any legal recourse.
* Bill C-36 for the first time in Canadian history allows warrants to be issued to search private homes without evidence of criminal wrong doing.
* Bill C-36 allows the State to seize property without a Court order, without reporting the seizure to a Court, and for an indefinite period.
* Bill C-36 allows the State to assume control over the movement of private property without a Court order and without a safety concern.
* The search and seizure powers in Bill C-36 are probably unconstitutional for violating the right found in section 8 of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms to be free from unreasonable search and seizure.
* Persons can be fined and have property forfeited to the State for administrative violations. Persons so charged have no right to have a Court determine their guilt or innocence. Guilt is determined by the Minister. There is no defence of due diligence or of honest but mistaken belief. There does not have to be a safety risk to be charged with an administrative offence. The Minister who determines your guilt or innocence can keep seized property if he/she finds you guilty.
* Directors, officers and managers are personally liable for violations by their company. Despite the possibility of multi-million dollar fines and long prison sentences, there is no right to cross-examine key witnesses.
* Directors, officers and managers can be saddled with debt years after they have left the company.
* Orders for recall or which take control of private property are exempted from the procedural safeguards of (1) review and (2) publication found in the Statutory Instruments Act.
* All businesses manufacturing, selling or distributing consumer products are saddled with additional red tape and expense regardless of whether or not there is a safety concern.
* Retailers and distributors of consumer products become liable for product labelling and instructions.
* There may be a significant conflict of interest. Health Canada may benefit financially from fines and the seizure of private property.
* Some consumer products such as sporting goods may have to be removed from the market for violating the safety provisions of the Bill.
* The Provinces are allowing the Federal Government to regulate in the Provincial area of property and civil rights. This represents a significant transfer of power from the Provinces to the Federal Government.
* The federal cabinet can incorporate documents from foreign governments or organizations as law by referring to them in regulations. This will remove Parliamentary scrutiny on issues that could fundamentally change the ground rules for the consumer product industry.
* Trade agreements and foreign laws can be adopted without Parliamentary scrutiny.

This will result in a lot more illegals smuggled into america and also a lot of dead americans since mexico's culture embraces drunk driving.

Nothing illustrates better the absolute treachery of our government than this act.

Originally posted by starviego
Nothing illustrates better the absolute treachery of our government than this act.

And who is the architect of this brilliant idea? Bill Clinton...

But who is the traitor that signed the agreement? GW Bush