How to make fuel from water in your bunker

There is a process by which you can use a car battery to break water molecules into hydrogen and oxygen.

Just like when your car battery vents, it vents a gas.

If you optimize that process, you can create enough of that gas, to weld, or to run a motor.

When this mixture is ignited, by a spark, the atoms reform into water. So the gas which takes up a big volume, when ignited does not explode, it implodes. To a liquid which takes up less room and causes a vacuum.

This is the opposite to a gasoline process which turns to vapor and then to gas exhaust in an explosion.

So one would push a piston down, but the other would pull a piston up. With equal force.

Now if you make a torch out of this gas you can blow glass with it, that is one commercial application in use today, or you can weld metal to rock, you can spot weld, you can do a lot of things.
It will also reduce radiation in a radioactive substance. For instance if you have a metal air filter and it become radioactive, take the torch to it, it will no longer be radioactive.
So I will show you two videos. One a commercial setup using it in industry in Korea.

And I will show you a home made setup easily done in your garage. Keep in mind, that although the guy in the garage knew how to make a simple rig, he knows nothing about what it is or what it does. He will put it with the gas, in the down stroke, so that the explosion and the implosion fight against each other in his cylinder.

But he makes a great easy to make little setup. He adds baking soda, which only makes the water more viscous. So the bubbles get bigger. But it serves to show the process. The baking soda is not needed.




Other advantages are, you can produce some breathable air from water. You can cook with it if you heat rocks you will also heat your bunker. It reacts to substances. So the heat it gives off is relative to the material the flame is touching. It is completely safe. Much safer than natural gas.

You can breathe it. It is implosive though, but harmless compared to most volatile substances.

Radioactivity Reduction

And a simple torch...

thank you, got all the info and added it to my "buggout pack". Thanks, might save my life one day

I have to start preparing!
Need to make some money!!

No jobs about so will have to hustle..

Originally posted by Rocketman7
It will also reduce radiation in a radioactive substance. For instance if you have a metal air filter and it become radioactive, take the torch to it, it will no longer be radioactive.

Thats a very interesting claim.
So you're saying that if my filter becomes blocked with plutonium atoms, your torch can make those atoms magcally dissappear?

Originally posted by AaronWilson
thank you, got all the info and added it to my "buggout pack". Thanks, might save my life one day

Exactly. Even if you just save the video with the plates, you will work it out from there if you had to.

If you watched the last video, he uses the baking soda but states with an addendum the baking soda is not a good choice of electrolyte because it creates co2.

The best thing to do is to keep it simple, just use water, use a bubbler to keep it safe. All that will happen if you don't use a bubbler is your cannister will implode. With water splashing everywhere. Water is not explosive.

The gas in the canister is implosive. So even if you get a flashback, where the flame travels back up the tube to your canister, it will only ignite the small amount of gas in your canister above the water. You could still get hurt if that is made of glass.

But when you consider that if you run out of fuel, you can make some yourself, it is good information.

It will power a small generator as well. I have seen it done.

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So by that reasoning then radiation can be"burned off",if this is the case,why aren't we directing it towards nuclear disaster areas??

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So by that reasoning then radiation can be"burned off",if this is the case,why aren't we directing it towards nuclear disaster areas??

There is so much wrong with these claims that I can't even believe what has been posted.It's called electrolysis, it splits water into hydrogen and oxygen. If you ignite a hydrogen -oxygen mixture it will explode not implode. Yes it will form water. But not very much. You can't get rid of radioactivity by heating . It's impossible.

At least read a chemistry book this post is dangerous at the least. Hydrogen and oxygen together when ignited will explode violently.

Originally posted by alfa1

Originally posted by Rocketman7
It will also reduce radiation in a radioactive substance. For instance if you have a metal air filter and it become radioactive, take the torch to it, it will no longer be radioactive.

Thats a very interesting claim.
So you're saying that if my filter becomes blocked with plutonium atoms, your torch can make those atoms magcally dissappear?

How is your filter going to get plutonium? Plutonium is a heavy element and doesn't travel far from a disaster unless it is a nuke and then it will be widely disbursed.

How radioactivity works is an element is vibrating in and out. As it does so it sends out waves. The heavier the element the deeper the gravity well around the substance. A nuclear explosion occurs when you perfectly surround a mass with an explosive and compress that mass and make that well deeper. It then rebounds and runs into itself. Causing a feedback loop. It is trying to explode out while it is imploding in. The pressure builds at light speed.

HHO is the opposite of radioactivity so it reduces the ambient pressure around a nuclear substance so that it bleeds off its feedback energy. It pulls the substance out of its abnormally deep gravity well.

It cools or dampens those in and out vibrations. Reducing the gamma and beta radiation.

Plutonium is only harmful if you get it on you or swallow it. Alpha radiation only affects an area about one half inch around it.
But the vibrations are so strong, it causes other molecules to vibrate. Thats why it kills cells and cooks people.

Alpha is stopped by a few centimeters of air or a sheet of paper. So that is from the skin of the nucleus vibrating. Alpha.

Then you have beta at the electron shell radius giving off waves that can be stopped by a sheet of aluminum.

Then you have gamma which requires 3 or 4 inches of lead to block and it is a transverse wave. The other two are spherical waves.

So gamma needs a source. Like spent fuel pool and reduces quickly with distance from the source.

Fallout would be radioactive elements like Strontium-90 or iodine-131 or similar. And maybe plutonium.

But it will reduce the radioactivity of Strontium and iodine. Plutonium is a quasi stable element.
Plutonium-238 has a half-life of 88 years
Plutonium-239 24100 years

so it depends on the element you have. It will reduce it.

Plutonium 242 376000 years. Browns Gas should transmute that to uranium.

But then uranium 238 is radioactive and has a half life of 4.5 billion years It is a stable element.

So air filters that were metal you could reduce the radiation if you had to. Thats all I'm sayin.
Wash them to get rid of the plutonium dust.

But f the metal is now radioactive from the alpha exposure, then take your torch to it.

baa baa baaa, move along sheep.

for the slow people in the audience, electrolysis(like everything else) is not 100% efficient. most of the applications mentioned in this thread would be far better offsimply using this battery in a more direct manner. But I suppose we'll never run out of folks who are 10 years late for the badwagon, just like the endless supply of doomsday predictions. But unlike the doomsdayers, which one day may prove right in one instance - this DOESNT CHANGE, it's physics. Go read a high school science book.

EDIT: I just more carefully read all the posts the OP made, and I feel safe in saying you need to put the high school science book on hold, and start with about 7th or 8th grade science. There is clearly a lack of understanding of basic principles. imploding, radioactivity, nuclear detonation, hell practically everything asserted is utterly wrong

Originally posted by lonegurkha
There is so much wrong with these claims that I can't even believe what has been posted.It's called electrolysis, it splits water into hydrogen and oxygen. If you ignite a hydrogen -oxygen mixture it will explode not implode. Yes it will form water. But not very much. You can't get rid of radioactivity by heating . It's impossible.

At least read a chemistry book this post is dangerous at the least. Hydrogen and oxygen together when ignited will explode violently.

This is not for everyone. You should not do it.

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I was a chemical operator for 20 years and I work in the chemical industry now. Playing with hydrogen can get you dead. Ever hear of the Hindenberg. Hydrogen is difficult to handle and hard to contain. You need to study up on what you are telling people to do before you get somebody killed. I have enough knowlege and good sense to not mess with hydrogen.

Originally posted by ScottishBiker420
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So by that reasoning then radiation can be"burned off",if this is the case,why aren't we directing it towards nuclear disaster areas??

See my post to the guy who says its impossible.

Although it was proven by tests in Canada sponsored by the Canadian government, would you believe that physicists do not really know what radiation is, or how the process works? You don't need to know that to be able to use it. You develop things by experimentation.

So there is no physics that tells people exactly what the process is. Hence what they have is the standard model and it does not help.
It is simple though and some day people will learn about it.

A supernova implodes then explodes. Thats the largest scale.
A Bosenova implodes then explodes. Thats the smallest scale.

In between you have a nuclear bomb, which is forced to implode, so that it will explode.

But the simple part about the gravity well around a heavy element, there is no physics that explains that yet.
Quantum gravity has not been formalized.

But, just as you can use the thing by experiment, people have experimented with HHO and have used it without fitting that process into the standard model.

If you are in your bunker and you are out of fuel, use it.

I have quite a few good links on mine:
www.abovetopsecret.com...
How To Make Hydrogen Fuel At Home!

Great subject.

This is yet another pseudo-science claim based on a tiny kernel of truth. Yes, you can separate water into its constituent components through the process of electrolysis. Yes, you can recombine those elements to recreate water and energy. The fact that oxygen and hydrogen can create lots and lots of energy quickly has been known for years; just think of the Hindenburg. And yes, this can be used (by someone that understands chemistry) for the purposes welding at very high temperatures. That's the extent of the truth. Dissimilar materials cannot be welded together. That's simply a fact. It's why you don't see windshields welded to the frames of cars or metal fixtures welded to stone walls. It's physically impossible. Neither does this process have any kind of special purification properties. It creates a flame, nothing more and nothing less. Anything you can do with a really hot flame, I guess you can do with this process. But it's not going to eliminate plutonium contaminants. That's ridiculous. The japanese are a very smart people, and they are currently very worried about nasty radioactive substances, and they are surrounded by water...do you think if this process was real they wouldn't already be all over it? Besides, if you're trying to use this for survival, you need to understand that it takes a whole lot of energy to separate water into oxygen and hydrogen in the first place. It's a simple process, granted, but unless you plan on having access to unlimited quantitites of batteries or gas, you should probably save your energy supply for more important uses. If you need a to build a fire, wood will almost certainly be more readily available than batteries. And if you're thinking about using this for welding, you will either need a system for separating the gases, storing them, pressurizing them, and then recombining them, or you'll need enough (read: massive amount of) energy to create a constant supply of gas from water. If you want to try it for yourself, just grab a battery, a couple wires, and a bucket of water, and see what you can do with it. You'll see a whole lot of bubbles that you won't have any good way to capture, and then your battery will be stone dead in an hour. Cheers...

Originally posted by Rocketman7
How radioactivity works is an element is vibrating in and out. As it does so it sends out waves.
HHO is the opposite of radioactivity so it reduces the ambient pressure around a nuclear substance so that it bleeds off its feedback energy. It pulls the substance out of its abnormally deep gravity well.
It cools or dampens those in and out vibrations.

To which, I can only quote the words of lonegurkha from a few posts up...

There is so much wrong with these claims that I can't even believe what has been posted.

Originally posted by lonegurkha
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I was a chemical operator for 20 years and I work in the chemical industry now. Playing with hydrogen can get you dead. Ever hear of the Hindenberg. Hydrogen is difficult to handle and hard to contain. You need to study up on what you are telling people to do before you get somebody killed. I have enough knowlege and good sense to not mess with hydrogen.

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It was made out of canvas why wasn't it blown to bits?

If you wanted to make a dirigible, or airship, you should have inner tubes, lots of inner tubes, and pump helium into the tubes to go up, and pump the helium back into tanks to go down.
If one tube gets a hole in it so what? If the power goes out, man the pumps manually.

Originally posted by alfa1

Originally posted by Rocketman7
How radioactivity works is an element is vibrating in and out. As it does so it sends out waves.
HHO is the opposite of radioactivity so it reduces the ambient pressure around a nuclear substance so that it bleeds off its feedback energy. It pulls the substance out of its abnormally deep gravity well.
It cools or dampens those in and out vibrations.

To which, I can only quote the words of lonegurkha from a few posts up...

There is so much wrong with these claims that I can't even believe what has been posted.

Like I say its not for everyone. Many people would certainly not want that Japanese car on the market as a for instance. Many many wealthy people. Arabs for instance.
People who work in the oil industry.
All sorts of people.
Its not for everyone.

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Did you actually look at the picture you posted? If that's not an explosion just exactly what is it? Add the correct amount of oxygen as you are telling people to do and you get bigger explosion. If you don't understand why this is read a chemistry book and learn about what you are talking about. Hydrogen and oxygen in the right proportions will explode violently with the addition of a very small amount of energy like a static spark.

you're right about that, it's not for anyone who didnt sleep through high school chemistry