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US Attorney General Eric Holder: More gun control would have stopped Fast and Furious

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posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 04:51 PM
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Many, including myself, think that the real reason, pr at least a prime one, for the BATFE Fast and Furious/Gunwalker/Grenadewalker programs was to push for tighter gun control. Has AG Holder admitted as much?


In an astonishing admission, Attorney General Eric Holder told Congress that a lack of gun control was to blame for the government selling guns to Mexican drug cartels.

Holder sent a letter to Rep. Darrell Issa, chairman of the Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, and Sen. Charles Grassley, ranking member of the Committee on the Judiciary, regarding recent revelations he was briefed on Operation Fast and Furious much earlier than he told Congress.

Luke O’Dell, Director of Operations for the National Association for Gun rights, said Holder’s statement reveals the real reason the DOJ approved of Fast and Furious.

“That is the ultimate purpose of the Fast and Furious program. Obama’s Justice Department is pursuing its own political agenda rather than protect the American people.” O’Dell said, “That agenda is to restrict access and ultimately ban civilian access to all types of firearms. Remember, the administration has said ‘never let a crisis go to waste.’”


What makes Holders remarks all the more despicable is the fact that he repeats the wholly discredited. claim that this was a "counter smuggling" operation.

The nerve …. Unbelievable.





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posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 04:58 PM
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This admin has been telling the lies for so long that they now believe them, what started as a way to surreptitiously undermine our 2nd Amendment rights, they now (actually again) rehash the old argument that if there was more gun control this operation would never have happened. Riiiight.

The utter stupidity of Holder is really amazing. He belongs in prison for sedition.



posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 05:11 PM
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Why isnt this guy in jail already ?
Hes a panther and a socialist!



posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 05:17 PM
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BWAAAAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Doesnt dopey dwarf belong in prison for gun trafficking already? And we havent even looked for the 200 tons of coke and 20 tons of heroin him and Obama worked across the border yet.

What a freakin tard. Epic Fail.



posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 05:24 PM
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a lie is a lie is a lie.
This man is so deep into the pot he can't even hang on to a noodle.
Quick, someone throw him a dumpling so he may rise to the top,
Lest the weight of his conscience drag him down deep in the pot.


And who will believe such ridiculous claims?
Can such a man in authority cause so much pain?
To write one single order and let the innocent die
to me it's an outrage that such a man lie.
DH



posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 05:29 PM
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Wow! Nothing like good ole double speak.

They could not intercept the arms they directed the weapons dealers sell In large quanitites to suspected illegal straw buyers because the gun control laws are not strict enough.

Amazing amd outrageous.

How about the grenades Eric?


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posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 05:34 PM
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What. The. Hell. Fast and Furious circumvented EXISTING gun control laws. What is he saying now, that we need more regulations to keep government officials from doing crappy things that endanger our national security? What a moron.



posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 05:34 PM
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Just another of the countless and evergrowing examples from the scumbag class. The ongoing effort to display themselves as superior to the rest of us. Blaming the American people for our lack of intelligence because we lack the ability to see and embrace their genious. Hey, Holder, go Snip yourself. You are nothing but a low class criminal scumbag who belongs in the landfill with the other trash.







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posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 05:34 PM
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Holder is a shameless piece of trash. He would not know the truth if it kicked him in the nuts. The man is a criminal and he needs to be prosecuted as such. His life needs to be destroyed, just like the lives he has destroyed. I'm pretty sure lying to congress under this type of circumstance is a crime, yes?

Edit to add- I think he should be forced to explain his comments. It seriously makes no sense. I have tried to think objectively about this and I can not come up with one good reason why tighter gun control laws would have curtailed criminal activeity on the part of government officials. These people think they are above the law, so, to their way of thinking, more laws simply would not apply to them. But, it sure would apply to the masses who are getting sick of the corruption, now wouldn't it?
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posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 05:37 PM
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Holder and Obama and the rest of the elite will continue lying as long as people do nothing. Our types see the lies very clearly but the majority of Americans could care less. They will wake up when their BS three ring circus comes to an abrupt end.

This doesn't surprise me at all. Why should he stop lying when no one except the conspiracy crowd cares.

Peace to you.



posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 05:40 PM
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Of course how could we have been so blind Mr Holder
Letting guns walk without help catching them on the other side had nothing to do with it. More gun control???? The gun stores were aiding the "investigation" and your operation told them it was ok! Seriously with the cartels having ex-military in its ranks do you think they really wanted crappy semi-auto aks? They could buy them from the source full auto
Heck I bet Iran would sell some if they did a little favor
We are being distracted from the real problems now that ows is around. Notice how msm coverage of fast & furious has dwindled?



posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 05:50 PM
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OK, my blood is officially boiling....URRGHHHHH


The audacity of the members of this administration is just TOO MUCH! Every time I hear another story out of Washington, I really, really, really think I've woken up in the twilight zone. I mean, I didn't necessarily agree with the actions of the previous administration, but the jokers we've got there now are just too surreal.

They. Have. Got. To. Go.

PS: Nice find, OP
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posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 06:07 PM
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Yeah i am having a tough time holding back my comments on this one sure not going to get into trouble with ATS on that piece of work named Holder.

Seriously it wasn't a lack of gun control it was the Government's control that sold guns to murders that have lead to the death's of over 30 thousand Mexican national's and the death of a border agent.

We all knew the slime would rise to the surface with gun walker and fast and furious we all knew it was a setup for tighter gun regulation's that keep the law abiding American at the mercy of the criminal's and the police.

The Police are better armed
The Criminal's are better armed

And there you are caught in the middle because of the criminal actions of the US Federal Government going we can sell whatever we want to foreign national's they can own whatever they want and "Hey free American not so fast you are the danger".

This is the biggest bunch of BS i have ever read on here especially coming from that MURDER.


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posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 06:09 PM
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And Obama's administration is different from Bush's administration exactly how? Two sides to the same coin. Both as crooked as a pan of guts.



posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 06:11 PM
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No mr. holder, YOU NOT being attorney general would of stopped fast and furious.

I demand you resign NOW! Stop getting are border patrol men killed
and stop giving guns to criminals you criminal!!!

Obama is going to force this guy to resign. He is to much baggage..

That is all holder is, baggage for Obama's screw ups.



posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 06:14 PM
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The Fed's were running guns TO the drug cartels in Mexico.

The FED's won't close the border to stop the Mexican Drug Cartels from sneaking Mexican Military machine guns, grenades, and missile launchers they stole.....and snuck into the US.


All I see is the Mexican Drug Cartels are in cahoots with the Fed's....hellbent on killing Americans.

Keeps the status quo going and justifies the Federal Budgets I guess.



posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 07:43 PM
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Holder is an fascist idiot meat puppet. He admits the government runs/sells the guns to the Mexican drug cartels, which has nothing to do with a lack of gun control in the US but then he says that it's because of a lack of gun control pertaining to the citizens, even though the drugs were sold to foreign nationals by the government.

Who put this idiot into this position? Oh yeah, the Obamanation!

You might remember that Holder is the clown that wanted legislation to allow a tree to sue a person. I am all for respecting nature and allowing people who have stewardship over vast areas to sue others who damage those areas but I have no respect for this @ssclown Holder. His words mean less than nothing.

Cheers - Dave
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posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 08:07 PM
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Wrong thread
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posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 08:21 PM
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Originally posted by lonegurkha
And Obama's administration is different from Bush's administration exactly how? Two sides to the same coin. Both as crooked as a pan of guts.



And there it is in a nut shell....bravo sir!

ETA....that is meant as a compliment...not sarcasm.

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posted on Oct, 20 2011 @ 12:20 AM
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i second the motion
2nd



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